The Failure of Sex Education

ultra laser

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Judged by its results ? not a bad way of judging ? sex education has been an utter failure. The increase in sex education here in recent years has coincided with an explosion of unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted disease (STD) far worse than anywhere else in Europe. Since the government?s teenage pregnancy strategy was introduced in 1999, the number of girls having abortions has soared. You might well be tempted to argue that sex education causes sexual delinquency.

Only two months ago the Health Protection Agency reported that a culture of promiscuity among the young had driven the rate of STDs to a record. Almost 400,000 people ? half of them under 25 ? were newly diagnosed, 6% more than in 2006.

When something fails, the usual procedure is to drop it and try something else. With sex education, the worse it gets, the more people cry out for more of it and earlier. Ministers are considering whether to make schools offer more sex education, offer it earlier and deny parents the right to withdraw their children from it.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t...rin/article4795056.ece

Sex education at first seems like the solution to the problems with teenage pregnancies and abortions, until we consider the root cause to the problems, which is a change in values and behavior. Sex education doesn't address sex in the context of love, culture or even purpose, but only as a physical activity which leads to pregnancy--unless you swallow the magic pill or put on the magic rubber. There's the problem. We think we can "educate" teenagers into responsible adults by simply handing them rubbers and then letting them do whatever they feel like doing. If a parent behaved in the same way ("Here Johnny, take this giant fire extinguisher and go inside our burning house to get daddy's remote control before it burns up") he or she would be deemed unfit for the position of taking care of children.

We (and with "we" I mean community members, not the government officials or school authorities) need to address sex in a meaningful context to our children, or else sex will become yet another activity similar to television, sports, voting or fast food eating, but for that to happen we first need a cultural framework around which we build and sustain our values. You can't force your daughter to avoid abortions by filling her handbag with pills, but what you can do is to discuss sex as a part of something larger (love) and explain when sex can be meaningful, and when it can be trouble, leading to bad consequences. Our society consistently fails to solve fundamental problems like these because it removes values from their proper contexts, finds an easy governmental solution to it all, and then acts surprised when all hell breaks loose.

http://www.corrupt.org/news/th...ilure_of_sex_education

Sex disconnected from love is unnatural and unhealthy - it results in spiritually and physically diseased people. Bring back moral society.
 

IronWing

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Back in the day we didn't have all this immoral premarital sex. People got married at 16 so it was all moral.
 

halik

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Well telling kids not to have sex certainly hasn't been working in the U.S.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: ultra laser

Sex disconnected from love is unnatural and unhealthy - it results in spiritually and physically diseased people.

You lost about 90% of this forum, and the world, in that one sentence.
 

Balt

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Sex disconnected from love is unnatural

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JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: Balt
Sex disconnected from love is unnatural

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lol is right. It's actually completly natural hahaha.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: ultra laser

Sex disconnected from love is unnatural and unhealthy - it results in spiritually and physically diseased people. Bring back moral society.

*facepalm*
 

jackschmittusa

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I would like to see the scientific evidence behind the statement "Sex disconnected from love is unnatural and unhealthy - it results in spiritually and physically diseased people.".

Since you used the word "unnatural", I assume you are referring to the natural world, for which science is the provider of descriptions.
 

Moonbeam

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What we have here is simplistic thinking tied to a very complex subject.

For the Neanderthals among us sex is the f world and the more they can get of that the better. Some declining number are lucky enough to be in relationships filled with love and joy and have divine sex. A Neanderthal doesn't care a wit about that and has no idea it even exists.

What we need is not sex education but emotional education. We need education that makes us human. Unfortunately there aren't many real humans around. Everything, therefore, will continue to all screwed up.
 

gevorg

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Failure? Maybe sex ed in schools has failed, but its quite successful on MTV and the like. :)
 

Thump553

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You are confusing sex education with abstinence indoctrination. This is a common mistake-in fact it's the entire platform of the Bush Administration in this area.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Thump553
You are confusing sex education with abstinence indoctrination. This is a common mistake-in fact it's the entire platform of the Bush Administration in this area.

Read what he read, he speaks of condoms and birth control, hardly in the same realm as abstinence...but I guess any other opportunity to jab the far right.

As for the OP, I agree, this magic bullet type approach (Rubbers, Pill) makes matters worse, and unfortunately our society/culture seems to love sex without love/conditions so I don't see it changing anytime soon if ever.
 

GTKeeper

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Something tells me that the OP has been fed a load of bull patties to create this type of thinking on his part.
 

Moonbeam

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It should be mentioned that all education is failing so the focus on sex education is just selecting a part of a larger problem and extracting claims to fit some selective agenda.

The agenda here is to bolster the conservative Neanderthals in the culture wars, to claim that the American Taliban have the answer to raising sexually adjusted children when sexual repression and paternalism, the missionary position, and 15 year old wives, hopefully eventually more than one, is what they offer as alternatives.

Society is evolving and the ATers are going to disappear. It is up to the sane secular humanists who will replace them to find real sexual balance and love, healthy sex not driven by repressed urges or that same repression suddenly unleashed, but by real healthy human feeling.
 

rchiu

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Yeah blame education. Like kids these days care what the teachers say in the classroom anyway. Parents should just sit there and let one class in entire semester to teach their kids to be responsible in sex and relationship in general. Oh and while TV, movies teach kids that it's cool to be popular with opposite sex and cool to make passionate love to anyone that's sexy and attractive.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Sure the way the Neo-cons allow it to be taught ofcourse it will fail.

The neo-cons are running the UK?

edit: also

Sex disconnected from love is unnatural and unhealthy - it results in spiritually and physically diseased people. Bring back moral society.

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Our real failure is the failure to raise our teenagers to know that although it's better not to get pregnant in the first place, there's absolutely nothing wrong or immoral about having an abortion to end an unwanted pregnancy and that having an abortion is almost always the most rational solution for teen pregnancies.

The real villains here are not the sex-ed teachers but the religious freaks.
 

child of wonder

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So if sex education is such a failure, then I take it teen pregnancy and STDs were not a problem prior to sex ed?

Oh wait...

Looks like teen pregnancy was quite a bit higher in the "good old days."

Oops!

In the 1950's nearly 1 out of every 10 women ages 15-19 were mothers. Today that number is approx. 1 in 25.

Bring back moral society!
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: child of wonder
So if sex education is such a failure, then I take it teen pregnancy and STDs were not a problem prior to sex ed?

Oh wait...

Looks like teen pregnancy was quite a bit higher in the "good old days."

Oops!

It's ok because they were probably in love back then.
 

child of wonder

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: child of wonder
So if sex education is such a failure, then I take it teen pregnancy and STDs were not a problem prior to sex ed?

Oh wait...

Looks like teen pregnancy was quite a bit higher in the "good old days."

Oops!

It's ok because they were probably in love back then.

True.

In the 1950s the more you hit your wife the more you love her.

Bring back moral society!