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Moonbeam

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Be very afraid. There is a disease that is spreading worse than the Corona virus. Things are going along so well, why do evil people what to spoil it. We must work to widen the gap between the rich and the poor. Feed the masses on virtual cake and get them back to church where them can pray for succor, yeah played for suckers.
 
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sandorski

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What garbage. Apparently some vague adherence to no particular Religious dogma is Sanity and the rejection of it is Insanity that leads to Socialism, Climate Change acceptance, and all other forms of Opinions that disagree with the Author. Nevermind that his Sanity is based upon Contradictory and Conflicting dogmatisms that at their cores hate each other and have been the source of much Historical violence.

Instead of viewing those with different Opinions as Psychopaths, the author should consider that this political change is based upon some objective reasons beyond his own insipid worldview.
 
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Fenixgoon

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It is the decline in institutional religion that drives the resurgence of socialism. Gallup found that church membership among U.S. adults has dropped precipitously over the last two decades, to 50 percent in 2018 from 70 percent in 1998. Why? Because the percentage of adults who profess no religious affiliation has more than doubled. It has gone to 19 percent from 8 percent.

this author needs to learn about correlation and causation.

Religion not only offers answers to the most powerful, definitive, and ultimate questions of human existence and purpose. It anchors individuals in a particular authoritative tradition defined by doctrinal orthodoxy and refined through multigenerational practice. People released from these bonds are capable of believing anything.

i. can't. even. i wonder if the author wrote this with a straight face?

people who don't follow religion can believe in anything, but somehow people who believe in things that cannot be proven are more grounded, rational, and likely to believe things that are true? did i get that right?

In the absence of an intellectually coherent and morally compelling account of the inequalities inherent to liberal democracy, so will the desire [for socialism] remain.

well it's not like wealth inequality is at its all time highest, or that similarly developed countries have proven that universal healthcare has lower per capita costs while achieving similar outcomes (e.g. median lifespan - which is decreasing in the US btw), or that somewhere between 50-75% of americans live paycheck to paycheck, and 40% can't cover a $400 emergency expense...
 

Greenman

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Socialism started the day the first caveman told his buddy, "I'll kill it if you'll cook it". The issue is, and always will be, how far down that road we go. Many socialist policies are good governance, good for the entire nation. Some will encourage dependency and laziness.
 

ch33zw1z

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Socialism started the day the first caveman told his buddy, "I'll kill it if you'll cook it". The issue is, and always will be, how far down that road we go. Many socialist policies are good governance, good for the entire nation. Some will encourage dependency and laziness.

Just wait, automation will continue to make it worse. Then our Puritan style condescension can take a hike.
 

cytg111

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Socialism started the day the first caveman told his buddy, "I'll kill it if you'll cook it". The issue is, and always will be, how far down that road we go. Many socialist policies are good governance, good for the entire nation. Some will encourage dependency and laziness.

That is your programming talking.
Socialist programs in Scandinavia, you think they encourage laziness? If you receive benefits from the sate you have to make your self available to the state, for job testing, to do manual work, from cleaning graffiti to maintaining public parks to alot of other stuff. Just cause you have a safety net doesnt mean its a free lunch. And trust me, if you have ever tried one of those programs, you will pick your self up by the neck, enroll into an education, retrain for another job or whatever else you have to do to scrape your self up from the bottom.... (And those who cant, really really cant - and thats ok too.)
 

cytg111

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This is a good fit here

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cytg111

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6 weeks of denial, I heard someone today blaming house Democrats for focusing on impeachment and not addressing the virus. Like, wtf lol.

smh, where's the senate at?
#MoscowMitch is taking a prolonged weekend off, didnt you hear?
 
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cytg111

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Must be nice. Meanwhile, minimum wage workers slave away under our state run corporate welfare system....many of them go to work sick, it's more and more normalized the farther you go down the totem pole.
Do what #MoscowMitch did, find a Russian Prince to send them a never ending fountains of Rubles... all they have to do is to find something to sell out... or someone.
 

IronWing

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Must be nice. Meanwhile, minimum wage workers slave away under our state run corporate welfare system....many of them go to work sick, it's more and more normalized the farther you go down the totem pole.
Work sick or get fired is reality for minimum wage workers. There's a sub shop next to my office that I'm avoiding for the next few weeks as one of the folks working the counter was clearly sick. I figure it will take time for the whole staff to catch and flush it.
 

shortylickens

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National Review is a well known nutjob site, so I'm not surprised at anything they say.
I AM worried about all the people who frequent it and believe what they see. Thats almost as big a problem as lazy assholes sitting around all day watching Fox News, whether from their homes or the bar or whatever.

In fact thats one of the things I noticed when I first moved to Virginia, the shocking number of bars and restaurants filled with TV's and how many of them keep Fox News running from open to close. Even the waiting room at my dentist.
 

Moonbeam

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Socialism started the day the first caveman told his buddy, "I'll kill it if you'll cook it". The issue is, and always will be, how far down that road we go. Many socialist policies are good governance, good for the entire nation. Some will encourage dependency and laziness.
Did you ever avail yourself of medical insurance, Mr Lazy Medically Dependent, or are you only too happy to use it on the notion you paid into it regardless of the size of the bill? I'm betting that if your turn comes and you rack up unplayable bills you will be only to happy to take.
 

Greenman

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Did you ever avail yourself of medical insurance, Mr Lazy Medically Dependent, or are you only too happy to use it on the notion you paid into it regardless of the size of the bill? I'm betting that if your turn comes and you rack up unplayable bills you will be only to happy to take.
That has nothing to do with my statement. My point was that at the outer edge of socialism there is no reason to strive. Some will because it's in our nature, some won't because it's in their nature. I have no issue contributing to the enrichment of everyone, but I want everyone that's able to contribute as well. That's socialism.
 

shortylickens

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That has nothing to do with my statement. My point was that at the outer edge of socialism there is no reason to strive. Some will because it's in our nature, some won't because it's in their nature. I have no issue contributing to the enrichment of everyone, but I want everyone that's able to contribute as well. That's socialism.
I think thats why the Star Trek utopia will never happen, because too many people will sit around all day, eating, fucking, making more humans, and our race will just become stupid and fat and useless.
 

alcoholbob

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All the smears against socialism that Biden used during the primary will now be used against him in the general election. Moderates never learn. (I.e., the donors pay them not to)
 

Vic

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Socialism started the day the first caveman told his buddy, "I'll kill it if you'll cook it". The issue is, and always will be, how far down that road we go. Many socialist policies are good governance, good for the entire nation. Some will encourage dependency and laziness.

Wait.. a mutually beneficial trade between 2 free parties is socialism? WTF?
 

Perknose

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Be very afraid. There is a disease that is spreading worse than the Corona virus. Things are going along so well, why do evil people what to spoil it. We must work to widen the gap between the rich and the poor. Feed the masses on virtual cake and get them back to church where them can pray for succor, yeah played for suckers.
Lololololol, from the article:

A YouGov poll conducted last year for the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation found that 70 percent of Millennials are either “somewhat” or “extremely” likely to vote for a socialist.
Victims of . . . Communism? Please! Victims of State Facist Totalitarians is more like it.

Remember, kids, in actual Communism, the state is supposed to wither the fuck away entirely. Somebody forgot to tell Stalin that, I guess. :rolleyes:
 

sandorski

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Dude literally just described capitalism. Two people have specialties that are mutually beneficial which they profit off of.

Exchange of Goods is Trade. Capitalism is a subset of Trade. Socalism also has Trade and is a subset of Trade. The main difference between Capitalism and Socialism is the Capitalism has an Owner Class that Profits off the Labour of Workers while Socialism has a Worker Class that Owns the means of Production and shares the Profits amongst their fellow Workers. Basically anyway.
 

Moonbeam

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That has nothing to do with my statement. My point was that at the outer edge of socialism there is no reason to strive. Some will because it's in our nature, some won't because it's in their nature. I have no issue contributing to the enrichment of everyone, but I want everyone that's able to contribute as well. That's socialism.
Nature? I believe it's capitalism that breaks people's natural empathy and turns them into takers.
 

Greenman

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Nature? I believe it's capitalism that breaks people's natural empathy and turns them into takers.
That's a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature. Capitalism is the outward expression of the human desire to not simply survive but to flourish. Almost everyone wants to succeed, we all want to live well with little effort.
Greed is the problem you're trying to identify, and it has nothing to do with the desire to succeed and live well.
 
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