The entire New York state senate needs to be impeached

[AstroManLuca]

I don't know how much national press this has been getting, but I heard about it on NPR and did a little more research. Quick run-down here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2...nate_leadership_crisis

So anyway, all I can tell is basically we've got 62 state senators all unwilling to budge and allow the other party to "take control" of the senate. There is no Lieutenant Governor because of Eliot Spitzer's resignation, so there is no President of the Senate to break the tie. And now we have members of each party whining and crying like little babies that the other side is at fault for the whole fiasco.

But yeah, it seems as though any one of the members of the senate could bring the whole thing to an end immediately (at the expense of their own party of course). Maybe I don't understand the whole thing, but that's what it seems like to be. As I indicated in the thread title, I think they should dump every single member of the senate since they're all responsible for the fiasco and they're all guilty of abandoning their duties to their constituents.

 

[nageov3t]

impeached by whom?

 

[Nitemare]

Most politicians aren't worth their weight in horse manure anyways.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: loki8481
impeached by whom?

touche, can't believe I didn't even think of that

Anyway, I was really just reacting to all the politicians there who are of course blaming the other party for all the problems, when they really ought to blame themselves. I really hope they all get voted out next election (like that'll ever happen).

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Now there's a hiring freeze in the city. It's ridiculous.

 

[StageLeft]

It's great. They keep being made to come in each day and they just adjourn after a few minutes.

BTW It's not getting more national news because I think it's hard to understand. I frankly read that wiki article and despite hearing about it before still don't really know what it means. That makes for bad news on fox.

 

[nageov3t]

just as a side-note, how the hell has Patterson been governor so long without taking 30 seconds to appoint a lieutenant governor?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
It's great. They keep being made to come in each day and they just adjourn after a few minutes.

BTW It's not getting more national news because I think it's hard to understand. I frankly read that wiki article and despite hearing about it before still don't really know what it means. That makes for bad news on fox.

Both parties claim majority status and control over the NY state senate. That's what this all means. You would think they could simply take a count.

 

[CPA]

OP, what do you mean abandoning their responsibilities to their constituents? By holding their position, isn't that what they are doing?

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: loki8481
just as a side-note, how the hell has Patterson been governor so long without taking 30 seconds to appoint a lieutenant governor?

There isn't a clear constitutionally allowed method for Patterson to appoint one. According to the NYS constitution, the governor and lieutenant governor are to be elected at the same time and does not give instructions on how one would replace the lieutenant governor if the existing one left that position.

 

[NaughtyGeek]

What a mess.

 

[amdhunter]

Originally posted by: loki8481
just as a side-note, how the hell has Patterson been governor so long without taking 30 seconds to appoint a lieutenant governor?

They dont make the paperwork in braille.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Most politicians aren't worth their weight in horse manure anyways.

Views like that are pretty ironic, as it's more true about the voters.

Hey, let's just get rid of any elected officials and solve the problem.

You sure do make it tempting for people to want to run for office - and have you refer to them as horse manure. You get what you deserve in that case.

Maybe if citizens took a little responsibility and fought for campaign finance reform and didn't vote for bad candidates, things would get better.

 

[Slew Foot]

They should just raise taxes to 100%. Liberals like taxes.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: loki8481
just as a side-note, how the hell has Patterson been governor so long without taking 30 seconds to appoint a lieutenant governor?

They dont make the paperwork in braille.

I think he just has too much blind faith in the senators :laugh:

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Most politicians aren't worth their weight in horse manure anyways.

Views like that are pretty ironic, as it's more true about the voters.

Hey, let's just get rid of any elected officials and solve the problem.

You sure do make it tempting for people to want to run for office - and have you refer to them as horse manure. You get what you deserve in that case.

Maybe if citizens took a little responsibility and fought for campaign finance reform and didn't vote for bad candidates, things would get better.

The problem is that the NY political machine is so strong that choosing those who don't support it don't even get a chance to run. Think Tammany Hall.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Now even more more gridlock...

WSJ: N.Y. Republicans Move to Block Appointment

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Republicans said Thursday that they secured a court order suspending Gov. David Paterson's plan to appoint a lieutenant governor to preside over the gridlocked New York Senate.

GOP Senate spokesman John McArdle said a judge in Nassau County issued the temporary restraining order overnight. He said it suspends Gov. Paterson's plan to have Richard Ravitch provide a tie-breaking vote and preside over the Senate.

But Paterson spokesman Peter Kauffmann said the order was received after all the necessary appointment papers were filed with the state secretary of state. He said the governor would call a session with Mr. Ravitch presiding on Thursday and challenge the restraining order, in part over whether the judge had jurisdiction to intervene.

Mr. Ravitch, a former Metropolitan Transportation Authority chairman, said he didn't know of the court action.

Mr. Ravitch said he was sworn in at 8 p.m. Wednesday, hours after Gov. Paterson made the surprise appointment long thought to be constitutionally prohibited.

A lawyer for Gov. Paterson said state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo declined to represent the governor in the legal dispute. The governor's office said Mr. Cuomo couldn't represent Gov. Paterson because he has a different opinion about the power of the governor to name a lieutenant governor.

Instead, the state will pay for private lawyers to argue the governor's case.

The Senate has been gridlocked since a June 8 coup by a Republican-dominated coalition over the Democratic conference that thought it won the majority.

Mr. McArdle said the court order is scheduled to be argued Friday.

The coalition had immediately slammed Gov. Paterson's appointment of the 76-year-old Democrat known for crisis management as a political move to boost the governor's weak poll numbers as he campaigns for election in 2010. Gov. Paterson's televised speech was promoted through his campaign Wednesday, and automated "robocalls" were made Wednesday night by the campaign praising the Democratic governor's action.

Mr. Ravitch told the Associated Press Thursday that he would be "addressing serious problems that the state faces and I am not now and I will never be a candidate for elected office."

Mr. Ravitch recently championed a transit bailout plan. He was chosen by then-Gov. Hugh Carey to help dig New York out of its 1974 fiscal crisis. He also worked for President Lyndon Johnson in 1966 and was part of the National Commission on Urban Problems.

This has evolved from a partisan issue, to a personal interest issue. Even Cuomo, a Democrat will not back this nomination (likely saving face so he can run in '10). And how ironic that Paterson only cares to appoint a Lt. Governor only now amidst the Senate mess. The incompetence of all people involved int his mess is sickening.

Remember the names of your representatives my fellow New Yorkers, and let them have it next election cycle.

 

[nageov3t]

the argument that Patterson is using to appoint a Lt. Gov seems constitutionally sketchy.

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
They should just raise taxes to 100%. Liberals like taxes.

Liberals are socialists.

 

[Atreus21]

Actually this is good. A state is never so safe as when its Senate is unable to act.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Atreus21
Actually this is good. A state is never so safe as when its Senate is unable to act.

To be honest, I think a populace in general is SAFER when its Senate is unable to act (in this modern political era).

I'm so glad I left NY... again, for the second and final time.

 

[Sinsear]

Breaking news has Espada flipping back to the Dems. While I might not be in favor of a D leadership or majority, the circus has gone on long enough. The people voted for them to do a job, and they've all done nothing but play games for the past month.

 

[piasabird]

At least they are not passing new taxes!!!

According to Glen Beck, when politicians do nothing business fourishes.