The effective life of terrorism has been short.

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With the terrorist bombing of the WTC Towers on 9/11 terrorism achieved its apogee. On that date the entire civilized world took notice and decided that enough was enough. The wheels of justice were put in motion to minimalize the activities of religious radicals worldwide. It will take years, but their tactics will be brought under control by cutting off their funding and rooting them out of their hiding places in destitute countries. They will be killed, captured or immobilized by cutting their supply lines, their modes of communication and disrupting their command hierarchy.

They will continue, for some time, but they are now caught in the light where they can no longer continue their cowardly activities without the entire world seeing them for what they are.

They don't desire world peace, they desire world domination and subjugation. All peoples of the Earth will live as they dictate.

Human nature rebels at the thought.

Human nature and the basic desire for freedom will defeat them.
 

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But look howmuch they have just accomplished: Killed air travel, screwed over INS, made us spend billions, made the rest of the world spend billions, knocked down two big ass buildings and lots of people, struck fear in the hearts of americans...who previously belived we would never be attacked at home.
 

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Like I said, they reached their apogee on 9/11. That incident caught the attention of the entire world, including countries and societies that thought they were immune. The terrorists put the spotlight on themselves.
 

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Fine sentiments to be sure, but the bottom line is that terrorists are still very capable of hittin the US hard. I think it is clear that more attacks are coming and there will even be some that will dwarf the carnage of 9/11.
 

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exp, anything is possible, but I doubt that the radical religious terrorists who slammed us hard on 9/11 and woke us up really want us to double or triple the efforts we are already making. We have hindered ther operations already. We have operations going on all over the world. If they were to hit us again on a scale of 9/11 you would see the sleeping tiger awaken, again.
 

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<< exp, anything is possible, but I doubt that the radical religious terrorists who slammed us hard on 9/11 and woke us up really want us to double or triple the efforts we are already making. If they were to hit us again on a scale of 9/11 you would see the sleeping tiger awaken, again. >>

Ah, but you are assuming that they are capable of rational thought. I doubt their thought process works like that...they are brainwashed fanatics with no regard for their own fate or that of Muslims in general. Terrorists have nothing but blinding hatred toward the US and wish to see it destroyed, even if it means taking themselves and the entire Middle East down with it. That's how I see it, anyway.
 

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The fact remains, if the U.S. were to be hit on a large scale again, what we are doing right now would seem like child's play. We wouldn't bother invading countries like Iraq and Afghanistan that harbor terrorists who are bringing death and destruction to our shore, we would take them out. I mean the countries.
 

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The best way I can think of to fignt terrorism is to creat the factually accurate impression that the Haves are making great efforts to help the Have-nots of the world.
 

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Moonbeam, you seem to be advocating bribery. What happens when we have nothing more to give and they still want more?
 
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<< The best way I can think of to fignt terrorism is to creat the factually accurate impression that the Haves are making great efforts to help the Have-nots of the world. >>

Ummm...the bin Laden family is filthy rich.
 

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<< The fact remains, if the U.S. were to be hit on a large scale again, what we are doing right now would seem like child's play. We wouldn't bother invading countries like Iraq and Afghanistan that harbor terrorists who are bringing death and destruction to our shore, we would take them out. I mean the countries. >>



You are so very far out of touch. As IF the USA would ever vaporize a country. I mean the idea is just so ... dumb? You think that your nation is that powerful? It's naive to think that Sept 11th was the climax of terrorism. A weapon of mass destruction could be used on the USA just as easily.. as could bio/chems find their way into our air.



<< The effective life of terrorism has been short. >>



Wrong again. It has been around for centuries, and will be around until the human race is gone. When the "minority" can't win, or put up a fight.. terrorist tactics will be seen again.. and again. Especially since its beyond the hate of western civilization, its hate fueled by a religion that has NO limits.
 

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<< Jesus, help isn't only money nor should hypotheticals create paralysis. >>

Damn that was so deep, I think I'm drowning ;)
 

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<< They will continue, for some time, but they are now caught in the light where they can no longer continue their cowardly activities without the entire world seeing them for what they are. >>



They aren't trying to be inconspicuous.. uh, most terror groups proudly publicize their 'accomplishments'.
 

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It usually gets "deep" when Moonbeam posts.

The main point is ,that no matter what the terrorists goals or even perceived legimate reasons for their actions, terrorism must not be allowed to suceed. If ever allowed to succed, even just once, it will become just another political tool to be used by any group that has an unrealized goal.

That must never be allowed to happen.
 

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<< It usually gets "deep" when Moonbeam posts.

The main point is ,that no matter what the terrorists goals or even perceived legimate reasons for their actions, terrorism must not be allowed to suceed. If ever allowed to succed, even just once, it will become just another political tool to be used by any group that has an unrealized goal.

That must never be allowed to happen.
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Here! Here! Well stated.
 

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Here! Here! Well stated.

Which part? The part about needing hipwaders when Moonbeam starts slinging it or the part where terrorism must never be allowed to become just another political tool?
 

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<< Here! Here! Well stated.

Which part? The part about needing hipwaders when Moonbeam starts slinging it or the part where terrorism must never be allowed to become just another political tool?
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Both :p
 

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Actually my point was so simple I was sure it didn't need explanation. etech made the mistake of assuming that by help, I was refering to money, probably his money. Clearly, my statement implies that I attribute terrorism to a feeling of hopelessness and abandonment among the world's poor, the feeling that we, the West particularly, have abandoned them to their fate. They resent, not so much how little we can give, but our indifference. The way to fight the impression that we are indifferent is through actions designed to help. It isn't the help that matters as much as the intention and aim to do so. To hate us for our indifference is something easy to justify and rationalize. To hate us because we have given what we can after we have actually given what we can is insane. The difference between having an enemy who can justify his emnity and one who is simply envious and small minded is enormous. This ought to be self evident.
 

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<< The best way I can think of to fignt terrorism is to creat the factually accurate impression that the Haves are making great efforts to help the Have-nots of the world. >>

Cripes, Man-on-a-Moon, <U>your best thinking</U> is not gonna defeat terrorism. There is a great cultural, ideological, and perceptual divide between civilization and those terrorists who applaud the death of 3000 people in office buildings. If Osama was mainly concerned about poverty or similarly related issues, he could've just shared his wealth.
 

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<< The difference between having an enemy who can justify his emnity and one who is simply envious and small minded is enormous. This ought to be self evident. >>

I disagree with you on that point. I don't believe there is any justification for their behavior, Rationalization yes, justification NO! BTW, they are always willing to take our money but with no strings attached E.G. human rights, equal rights for women, Democratically elected officials, ect........ tell me why we should give them money under these circumstances again? I lack your level of insight and can not see it for myself.
 

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Moonbeam: Better prose but still lacking in reasoning. What the heck does indifference have to do with anything? The west is largely indifferent to Africa and yet they don't bomb us. They hijack 4 planes and murder 3000 civilians just because we are indifferent to them? Such nonesense! The Arab nations have plenty of resources to fend or care for their emotional needs of their peoples. Your explaination has no relationship as to why those terrorists want to wipe the US or Isreal off the face of the earth.