The Eastman Memo, the coup memo

[cytg111]

"rules"????

Turing complete shit, dont worry about it.

 

[HomerJS]

So if I talk to a friend about wanting to rob a bank, thats a crime?

No but if you and the friend using what you talked about try to break into that bank and it fails?

That is a crime

If Eastman just created that plan and gave it to nobody and did not try to execute it, that isn't a crime

 

[Amused]

So if I talk to a friend about wanting to rob a bank, thats a crime?

If you are the commanding officer of your subordinate and you ORDER him to carry out the robbery, yes.

That's a crime.

Trump orchestrated and implemented every aspect of the Eastman plot. ONLY Pence's refusal to carry out Trump's direct order stopped it's full attempt.

Direct testimony of Pence refusing Trump's order, and Trump's reaction.

Trump called Pence 'the P-word' and a 'wimp' during a call before the Jan. 6 attack, according to testimony from White House aides

"The conversation was... was pretty heated," said Ivanka Trump in video testimony shown on Thursday by the January 6 committee.

www.businessinsider.com

If a General orders his troops to carry out a war crime and they refuse his order, he is still guilty of attempting to commit a war crime.

Eastman himself is guilty of professional misconduct and loss of his license at the very least. I would say he's guilty of seditious conspiracy since it was his plot the president attempted.

 

[cytg111]

*activate teflon shield*

 

[eelw]

Damn he’s dense. So tempted to add to ignore as well as the fortune cookie

 

[ch33zw1z]

If you are the commanding officer of your subordinate and you ORDER him to carry out the robbery, yes.

That's a crime.

Trump orchestrated and implemented every aspect of the Eastman plot. ONLY Pence's refusal to carry out Trump's direct order stopped it's full attempt.

If a General orders his troops to carry out a war crime and they refuse his order, he is still guilty of attempting to commit a war crime.

Eastman himself is guilty of professional misconduct and loss of his license at the very least. I would say he's guilty of seditious conspiracy since it was his plot the president attempted.

Careful now, you might be onto something. And that something will wear out blackangst's tap dance shoes faster than the other "who me?" players around here.

 

[fskimospy]

Im aware.

You don’t seem terribly alarmed that we were likely a single person’s choice from the destruction of American democracy.

I personally think that would have been bad.

 

[blackangst1]

No but if you and the friend using what you talked about try to break into that bank and it fails?

That is a crime

If Eastman just created that plan and gave it to nobody and did not try to execute it, that isn't a crime

I agree. Whats your point?

 

[blackangst1]

If you are the commanding officer of your subordinate and you ORDER him to carry out the robbery, yes.

That's a crime.

Trump orchestrated and implemented every aspect of the Eastman plot. ONLY Pence's refusal to carry out Trump's direct order stopped it's full attempt.

Direct testimony of Pence refusing Trump's order, and Trump's reaction.

Trump called Pence 'the P-word' and a 'wimp' during a call before the Jan. 6 attack, according to testimony from White House aides

"The conversation was... was pretty heated," said Ivanka Trump in video testimony shown on Thursday by the January 6 committee.

www.businessinsider.com

If a General orders his troops to carry out a war crime and they refuse his order, he is still guilty of attempting to commit a war crime.

Eastman himself is guilty of professional misconduct and loss of his license at the very least. I would say he's guilty of seditious conspiracy since it was his plot the president attempted.

Thats...a stretch.

 

[blackangst1]

You don’t seem terribly alarmed that we were likely a single person’s choice from the destruction of American democracy.

I personally think that would have been bad.

No, we werent.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I agree. Whats your point?

Way to play the "huh? whuh?" game some more. It's a mystery why you do this, but it's obvious that you either enjoy it, obligated, or both.

 

[fskimospy]

No, we werent.

Can you explain?

Let’s walk through this step by step. Say Pence does as Trump wanted - that means it goes to the House. Are you saying the House would have elected Biden president despite the republicans controlling a significant majority of congressional state delegations?

 

[HomerJS]

I agree. Whats your point?

My first sentence is what happened. Why shouldn't Eastman and Trump be charged with a crime??

 

[cytg111]

If you were tangoing with one of the new AI chat bots… and blackangst…. and you knew ONE of them was a bot…. which one would you point out as the bot? Id be like that blackangst is just lazy coding man, doesnt even make sense, you out.

 

[hal2kilo]

Damn he’s dense. So tempted to add to ignore as well as the fortune cookie

He's long been on ignore for me. I still get the theme from the replies.

 

[fskimospy]

Also I’m very confident that had the coup succeeded the Republican answer would be to pretend nothing untoward happened. They would just say ‘there were controversies about the electoral votes from some states and the House resolved the issue. The system works.’

 

[hal2kilo]

Also I’m very confident that had the coup succeeded the Republican answer would be to pretend nothing untoward happened. They would just say ‘there were controversies about the electoral votes from some states and the House resolved the issue. The system works.’

Seemed you skipped the part where fighting erupts in the streets.

 

[Amused]

Thats...a stretch.

No, that's the letter of the law. The oath of office makes it clear.

 

[blackangst1]

Can you explain?

Let’s walk through this step by step. Say Pence does as Trump wanted - that means it goes to the House. Are you saying the House would have elected Biden president despite the republicans controlling a significant majority of congressional state delegations?

yes

 

[fskimospy]

So if I talk to a friend about wanting to rob a bank, thats a crime?

If you agree with your friend that you should rob a bank and then take a concrete step in furtherance of that act, that is a crime, yes.

 

[fskimospy]

yes

Which delegations do you think would have defected? You would need at least three.

The idea that republicans would voluntarily choose to lose the presidency is delusional.

 

[blackangst1]

My first sentence is what happened. Why shouldn't Eastman and Trump be charged with a crime??

Because it was nothing more than talk. No action taken.

 

[blackangst1]

If you agree with your friend that you should rob a bank and then take a concrete step in furtherance of that act, that is a crime, yes.

I agree. But that never happened.

 

[fskimospy]

Because it was nothing more than talk. No action taken.

Trump tried to convince pence to enact the plan, which is absolutely an action in furtherance of the offense.

 

[blackangst1]

No, that's the letter of the law. The oath of office makes it clear.

No, its not.