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Alphathree33

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Scenerio A

You (single) see random girl with random guy. You think, "gee, too bad she's not with me, but oh well, I'm happy for them."

Scenerio B

You get to know random girl such that she's no longer random girl. She's still just a friend, but you feel close to her, like things might be going places. She's still fresh and new. Then you see her with another guy. You can't be upset because she isn't doing anything wrong... but let me tell you, this is a whole new level of something that I've never really experienced before... not pleasent at all. :(

Maybe one day I should just summarize all of my pathetic girl stories into one point form list of "do not do this" so that someone could one day benefit from my stupidity. What do you think? Probably here on ATOT I have what, maybe 50 "oops" girl stories?

Why does that remind me of monty python...

Anyway, once again, I'm done blabbing. If anyone wants to grace this nonsense with a reply I would appreciate it.
 

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One of the greatest signs of maturity is if a man can have female friends without feeling jilted.

At least for me, :D.
 

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
One of the greatest signs of maturity is if a man can have female friends without feeling jilted. At least for me, :D.

That's entirely the problem: I have too many female friends and not enough females err, otherwise. Hmm, that second one shouldn't be plural, should it?

I feel like another one has slipped away.
 

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Originally posted by: Alphathree33
Originally posted by: Zakath15
One of the greatest signs of maturity is if a man can have female friends without feeling jilted. At least for me, :D.

That's entirely the problem: I have too many female friends and not enough females err, otherwise. Hmm, that second one shouldn't be plural, should it?

I feel like another one has slipped away.

Then it has. Couple things - if you're attracted to a girl and you know she's single, go for it right away. Very rarely do relationships develop after a friendship has. At least in my experience.

Second, girls are very, very talkative - a good male friend who's single turns into a conversation topic and an eligible bachelor.

Third, hone your conflict and female-management skills on your female friends, then you'll be that much better for a relationship.

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Alphathree33
Originally posted by: Zakath15 One of the greatest signs of maturity is if a man can have female friends without feeling jilted. At least for me, :D.
That's entirely the problem: I have too many female friends and not enough females err, otherwise. Hmm, that second one shouldn't be plural, should it? I feel like another one has slipped away.
Then it has. Couple things - if you're attracted to a girl and you know she's single, go for it right away. Very rarely do relationships develop after a friendship has. At least in my experience. Second, girls are very, very talkative - a good male friend who's single turns into a conversation topic and an eligible bachelor. Third, hone your conflict and female-management skills on your female friends, then you'll be that much better for a relationship. :D

Could you perhaps elaborate on the second and third points?
 

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Originally posted by: Zakath15

Second, girls are very, very talkative - a good male friend who's single turns into a conversation topic and an eligible bachelor.

You're good friends with an attractive female. You treat her with respect, you act like yourself, etc... you don't put up a front with her. She sees the attractive parts of your personality. Even though she's taken, she sees your potential and starts to look for friends that might be a good match.

I've had this happen, a few times, actually.

Third, hone your conflict and female-management skills on your female friends, then you'll be that much better for a relationship.

Sort of like shooting trap with clay pigeons and your mom's Sunday china. Which ones would you rather use for practice?
 

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Originally posted by: Zakath15 Second, girls are very, very talkative - a good male friend who's single turns into a conversation topic and an eligible bachelor.
You're good friends with an attractive female. You treat her with respect, you act like yourself, etc... you don't put up a front with her. She sees the attractive parts of your personality. Even though she's taken, she sees your potential and starts to look for friends that might be a good match.[/quote]

Never worked for me. My personality must not have any attractive parts to it. :)

Honestly, no girl would ever match me up with another girl. I'm too quirky. They wouldn't risk it. Girls have to meet me and get to know me, and then they usually like me. It only goes beyond that when the girl is equally quirky because then we can have a really quirky relationship that is, to us, very normal. Hehe

Sort of like shooting trap with clay pigeons and your mom's Sunday china. Which ones would you rather use for practice?

I always use metaphors with my best friend and I'm always very proud of how creative my metaphors are. Then he will say, "Tom, you suck at metaphors, just give it up, okay?"

You suck at metaphors. Try again. :)
 

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Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Never worked for me. My personality must not have any attractive parts to it. :)

Honestly, no girl would ever match me up with another girl. I'm too quirky. They wouldn't risk it. Girls have to meet me and get to know me, and then they usually like me. It only goes beyond that when the girl is equally quirky because then we can have a really quirky relationship that is, to us, very normal. Hehe

I always use metaphors with my best friend and I'm always very proud of how creative my metaphors are. Then he will say, "Tom, you suck at metaphors, just give it up, okay?"

First point, you'd be surprised.

Second point... I'd rather learn ways to deal with female-conflict with female friends than with a girlfriend. Make sense?
 

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Some of my more complete thoughts...

Doesn't mean it's any easier to deal with it or suffer through it. It does suck to have an extraordinarily attractive woman say "Oh, it's okay, you're just a friend".

But, hey. If you're assertive and have confidence, you're bound to attract some women.
 

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Alphathree33 Never worked for me. My personality must not have any attractive parts to it. :) Honestly, no girl would ever match me up with another girl. I'm too quirky. They wouldn't risk it. Girls have to meet me and get to know me, and then they usually like me. It only goes beyond that when the girl is equally quirky because then we can have a really quirky relationship that is, to us, very normal. Hehe I always use metaphors with my best friend and I'm always very proud of how creative my metaphors are. Then he will say, "Tom, you suck at metaphors, just give it up, okay?"
First point, you'd be surprised. Second point... I'd rather learn ways to deal with female-conflict with female friends than with a girlfriend. Make sense?

Yes, makes sense now.

I'm too nice to my female friends. They tell me all of their problems but I generally don't offer advice. I never have a conflict with them directly. :)

Maybe I will start being more argumentative, lol. One of my best female friends told me that it seems that everything always has to be my way. I was actually excited about that. I thought, gee, a disagreement with a girl, this is new territory for me. :D

There's no point in practicing relationship skills if you need to practice obtaining a relationship.

It's like practicing differential equations without knowing what a polynomial is. (See, my metaphors suck too)
 

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"Female-Management Skills".. I like that; sounds like a University course of study (Ph.D. program?)
 

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Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Yes, makes sense now.

I'm too nice to my female friends. They tell me all of their problems but I generally don't offer advice. I never have a conflict with them directly. :)

Maybe I will start being more argumentative, lol. One of my best female friends told me that it seems that everything always has to be my way. I was actually excited about that. I thought, gee, a disagreement with a girl, this is new territory for me. :D

There's no point in practicing relationship skills if you need to practice obtaining a relationship.

It's like practicing differential equations without knowing what a polynomial is. (See, my metaphors suck too)

Yeah, that was a horrible metaphor. (D.E.'s are fun, though, :D).

Just be confident, dammit, don't think too much about it, and if you see someone you're attracted to who's single, go for it.
 

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
"Female-Management Skills".. I like that; sounds like a University course of study (Ph.D. program?)

Demolition-derby race track, :D.
 

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Some of my more complete thoughts... Doesn't mean it's any easier to deal with it or suffer through it. It does suck to have an extraordinarily attractive woman say "Oh, it's okay, you're just a friend". But, hey. If you're assertive and have confidence, you're bound to attract some women.

Actually... I read that post... twice... when you originally wrote it. :)

But I just read it again now. It was a good refresher.

As for "Just be confident, dammit, don't think too much about it, and if you see someone you're attracted to who's single, go for it."

I DO GO FOR IT. EVERY TIME. Lol. There just aren't many times. I'm picky. Not in terms of looks (if she's >= cute, that's fine! in fact, if she's drop dead gorgeous, I'd probably be too nervous). It is in terms of personality, interests and intelligence that I'm picky.

Don't think too much about it?! If only you knew me better... that's not possible. Sorry. I sat around for ten minutes earlier today planning out a phone conversation with a Rogers AT&T CSR on the topic of changing my password. I even thought about not calling because the thought of it somehow scared me.

So just imagine how much I think about, say, meeting a girl for dinner or calling her to ask her to do something with me. We're talking word-for-word, case-by-case breakdown written out in flowchart form here... :D
 

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Originally posted by: Alphathree33
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Some of my more complete thoughts... Doesn't mean it's any easier to deal with it or suffer through it. It does suck to have an extraordinarily attractive woman say "Oh, it's okay, you're just a friend". But, hey. If you're assertive and have confidence, you're bound to attract some women.

Actually... I read that post... twice... when you originally wrote it. :)

But I just read it again now. It was a good refresher.

As for "Just be confident, dammit, don't think too much about it, and if you see someone you're attracted to who's single, go for it."

I DO GO FOR IT. EVERY TIME. Lol. There just aren't many times. I'm picky. Not in terms of looks (if she's >= cute, that's fine! in fact, if she's drop dead gorgeous, I'd probably be too nervous). It is in terms of personality, interests and intelligence that I'm picky.

<STRONG>Don't think too much about it?! </STRONG>If only you knew me better... that's not possible. Sorry. I sat around for ten minutes earlier today planning out a phone conversation with a Rogers AT&T CSR on the topic of changing my password. I even thought about not calling because the thought of it somehow scared me.

So just imagine how much I think about, say, meeting a girl for dinner or calling her to ask her to do something with me. We're talking word-for-word, case-by-case breakdown written out in flowchart form here... :D

Mwahaha, I laugh, because I do that too. Not to the same extent, I think it out, but my personality works the same way. That's why I say it like I do, because it's not an easy thing for me to do.

Make sense?