The Democrats' vision of the role of government as expounded by VPOTUS

werepossum

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The link: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/10/vpotus-joe-biden-dems-will-kee.html

“Every single great idea that has marked the 21st century, the 20th century and the 19th century has required government vision and government incentive,” he said.

I'm often guilty of seeing little difference between the two parties. Now Vice president Biden has offered the Democrat vision. If you believe as he does, that every great idea comes from government and has for centuries, then clearly you should vote Democrat, that this life-sustaining Government be nurtured into greater growth to serve mankind.

If you do not believe that every great idea comes from government and has for centuries, then clearly you should not vote Democrat. (Although history shows that if the Pubbies do better, it will be for six years only.)

Remember - this is the smartest guy in any room (just ask him), so we should all listen when he speaks.
 

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The link: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/10/vpotus-joe-biden-dems-will-kee.html



I'm often guilty of seeing little difference between the two parties. Now Vice president Biden has offered the Democrat vision. If you believe as he does, that every great idea comes from government and has for centuries, then clearly you should vote Democrat, that this life-sustaining Government be nurtured into greater growth to serve mankind.

If you do not believe that every great idea comes from government and has for centuries, then clearly you should not vote Democrat. (Although history shows that if the Pubbies do better, it will be for six years only.)

Remember - this is the smartest guy in any room (just ask him), so we should all listen when he speaks.

Interpreting the line you quoted as "every great idea comes from government and has for centuries" is disingenuous at best.
 

PeshakJang

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Interpreting the line you quoted as "every great idea comes from government and has for centuries" is disingenuous at best.

???

That is almost literally what it says... Pretty difficult to see what else might have meant.

Seeing as how Biden is a few steps under Bush in terms of competency of thought, this is about on par.
 
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No, Biden said government was a required component, not the sole source.

Patents, subsidies, military contracts = government incentives. He's probably right.

Edit: Highway system, power grid, postal service, internet, etc. - the list of government vision is pretty long too.
 
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And here silly me, I remember the guy from Enron as being the smartest person in the room.

Well, GWB's Kenny boy is now dead before he could serve his jail time, Enron is bankrupt after ripping 10 of millions of people off, we have learned the moral bankruptsy
of GWB politics, and now the GOP has learned nothing since.

And now we are met on a great election battlefield 11 score and 14 years later to determine if this nation can adapt to changing times.
 

Scotteq

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Wait....


We're now quoting VP "Gaffe~Master B" like he's some kind of Big Fucking Deal??
 

matt0611

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Biden: Dems Will "Keep The Senate And Win The House"

Buahahahahaha! Biden is so funny!

Whats the difference between keep and win anyway? Don't the Dems have both the house and the senate? Haven't they had it for the last 4 years?
 
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werepossum

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Wait....


We're now quoting VP "Gaffe~Master B" like he's some kind of Big Fucking Deal??

He's a heartbeat away from the Presidency. He IS a BFD.

G-d save and protect Obama - which shouldn't be difficult to arrange since he's the Messiah. ;)
 

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And here silly me, I remember the guy from Enron as being the smartest person in the room.

Well, GWB's Kenny boy is now dead before he could serve his jail time, Enron is bankrupt after ripping 10 of millions of people off, we have learned the moral bankruptsy
of GWB politics, and now the GOP has learned nothing since.

And now we are met on a great election battlefield 11 score and 14 years later to determine if this nation can adapt to changing times.

As far as I can determine investors in Enron lost ~11 billion. If my math is correct Obama's is costing us 3.5 billion a DAY in additional debt. We could pay off the Enron losses in about 3 days. You are really concerned about Enron as opposed to what this Administration is spending?
 

Scotteq

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He's a heartbeat away from the Presidency. He IS a BFD.

G-d save and protect Obama - which shouldn't be difficult to arrange since he's the Messiah. ;)



Well - I suppose a highly cynical bastard with a rather twisted sense of humor might opine opine that VP Biden was chosen for the role for which he is uniquely - and most outstandingly - suited. Being President Obama's insurance policy against an Assasination attempt... D:

I mean - Who would dare shoot the President knowing that Joe is next in line!!! :D:sneaky::D:sneaky:





{In Advance: those of you here who can't take a joke are hereby advised to drive down to the bus station and wave a $50 out the window at the "young ladies" hanging out on the corner. You'll feel better. Trust me ;) }
 
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Moonbeam

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Isn't this where the trained assholes regurgitate their robo-hate for government like the little bot parrots and swill suckers they are?

Too bad the brain dead are too stupid to notice they are brain dead and full of ersatz feeling.
 

Scotteq

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Isn't this where the trained assholes regurgitate their robo-hate for government like the little bot parrots and swill suckers they are?

Too bad the brain dead are too stupid to notice they are brain dead and full of ersatz feeling.



...apparently someone could use a $50. :eek:
 

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There is no difference. Governments and businesses and people are hostage to debt based bank money, therefore they work for the banks. Left vs right are just dialectic choices you are given to hide the fascism that reigns in Washington. This is why nothing changes, why politicians seem to go against will of people all the time, they are not serving you but a powerful clique of lenders. If you truly want to understand American politics and money I encourage y'all to watch former wall street bankers Vrabels series on it.
http://www.youtube.com/user/councilonsper#p/c/3FB144AC4AAA1EC4/0/l37RhdFGVsM
 
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Moonbeam

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Shame on you stupid assholes allowing yourselves to be brainwashed by folk why use they hate they trained into you for their political advantage. But the brain dead are incapable of looking at themselves and seeing that they never had any great intellectual into much of anything much less the evils of government. Nope, they just sucked it down from the backward environment they grew up in.

And what a shame, so many peas spouting the same inculcated brain dead crap, and each one certain his opinions are all original.

You dumb fucks really believe you're not as transparent as last years leaves. But never mind. Your impregnable little asses are safe in your brain dead dreams. You're too stupid to know you're asleep. Stay away from the red pill. Your purpose in life is to feed the machine.

Mommy and Daddy, look at me. Government is bad. Now please oh please won't you love me. I promise I'll never think again. I won't ever embarrass you again, I promise. I will always act normal. I will devote my life to the parroting of our dream. The government is bad because it is bad because it is bad it is bad bad bad bad.

He who sleeps on the road loses either his hat or his head. Head, brain dead, who can tell.

One thing we do know, however, is that when you shine a light in dark corners the roaches scurry.

Shame shame same on you stupid derivitive assholes. You have made of yourselves jars of puss and putrifaction, like a truck load of chickens that hit a bus, wondering around in a daze clucking, Government is bad. Government is bad.

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This type of insulting is not acceptable

Common Courtesy
 
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PeshakJang

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Shame on you stupid assholes allowing yourselves to be brainwashed by folk why use they hate they trained into you for their political advantage. But the brain dead are incapable of looking at themselves and seeing that they never had any great intellectual into much of anything much less the evils of government. Nope, they just sucked it down from the backward environment they grew up in.

And what a shame, so many peas spouting the same inculcated brain dead crap, and each one certain his opinions are all original.

You dumb fucks really believe you're not as transparent as last years leaves. But never mind. Your impregnable little asses are safe in your brain dead dreams. You're too stupid to know you're asleep. Stay away from the red pill. Your purpose in life is to feed the machine.

Mommy and Daddy, look at me. Government is bad. Now please oh please won't you love me. I promise I'll never think again. I won't ever embarrass you again, I promise. I will always act normal. I will devote my life to the parroting of our dream. The government is bad because it is bad because it is bad it is bad bad bad bad.

He who sleeps on the road loses either his hat or his head. Head, brain dead, who can tell.

One thing we do know, however, is that when you shine a light in dark corners the roaches scurry.

Shame shame same on you stupid derivitive assholes. You have made of yourselves jars of puss and putrifaction, like a truck load of chickens that hit a bus, wondering around in a daze clucking, Government

You poor little child... it'll be ok... shhhhhhhhh. Go to sleep now, little child. ():)
 

Scotteq

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Moonbeam

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There is no difference. Governments and businesses and people are hostage to debt based bank money, therefore they work for the banks. Left vs right are just dialectic choices you are given to hide the fascism that reigns in Washington. This is why nothing changes, why politicians seem to go against will of people all the time, they are not serving you but a powerful clique of lenders. If you truly want to understand American politics and money I encourage y'all to watch former wall street bankers Vrabels series on it.
http://www.youtube.com/user/councilonsper#p/c/3FB144AC4AAA1EC4/0/l37RhdFGVsM

That's because the government regulates banks, but government is bad so government regulation caused the banks to fail. The bankers were simply wiped out by government regulation. It's laws that make people criminals, government laws. Folk just want to make a buck. Get the evil government off their back. And Polly want a cracker.
 

Moonbeam

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You poor little child... it'll be ok... shhhhhhhhh. Go to sleep now, little child. ():)

Except as you be a little child, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. You poor brain dead fuck, you will never know what that means, will you, because you think being a little child makes you inferior instead of master of the worlds.

Your arrows are meant to pierce armor. I lost all mine in a war with the Nothing and that's how I won. Poor poor little child, Moonbeam loves you. Come die in my arms.

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Better choice of words would have avoided this need for a PM

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DaveSimmons

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Biden isn't Palin-ignorant but he does have talent equal to GWB and Quayle for putting his foot in his mouth.

No, Biden said government was a required component, not the sole source.

Patents, subsidies, military contracts = government incentives. He's probably right.
Edit: Highway system, power grid, postal service, internet, etc. - the list of government vision is pretty long too.

That's probably the point he was trying to make, he just made it badly.