The democrats' "100 hour" set of policies if elected

Craig234

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The democrats have come out with their set of policies they plan to use if they get the majority, calling it the policies for the first 100 hours.

This is from Nancy Pelosi:

* Impose new rules and regulations to break the link between lobbyists and legislation
* Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies and fix Medicare Part D
* Stop Social Security and Medicare privatization plans in their tracks
* Raise the minimum wage to $7.25
* Cut the interest rates on student loans in half
* Roll back subsidies to Big Oil and gas companies
* Enact all the recommendations made by the independent 9/11 Commission

I agree with all of them.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: Craig234
The democrats have come out with their set of policies they plan to use if they get the majority, calling it the policies for the first 100 hours.

This is from Nancy Pelosi:

* Impose new rules and regulations to break the link between lobbyists and legislation
* Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies and fix Medicare Part D
* Stop Social Security and Medicare privatization plans in their tracks
* Raise the minimum wage to $7.25
* Cut the interest rates on student loans in half
* Roll back subsidies to Big Oil and gas companies
* Enact all the recommendations made by the independent 9/11 Commission

I agree with all of them.

Here's what I see.

*Regulations and more regulations.
*More government must be the answer to healthcare problems.
*For god's sake don't give anyone freedom of choice for their future!
*Give businesses less flexibility
*More government involvement with financial stuff.
*Rolling back subsidies only on oil companies and not all of the other corporations/businsses on welfare because the democrats need support from them
*Haven't looked into it much, but may be a good idea.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Craig234
The democrats have come out with their set of policies they plan to use if they get the majority, calling it the policies for the first 100 hours.

This is from Nancy Pelosi:

* Impose new rules and regulations to break the link between lobbyists and legislation
* Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies and fix Medicare Part D
* Stop Social Security and Medicare privatization plans in their tracks
* Raise the minimum wage to $7.25
* Cut the interest rates on student loans in half
* Roll back subsidies to Big Oil and gas companies
* Enact all the recommendations made by the independent 9/11 Commission

I agree with all of them.

Here's what I see.

*Regulations and more regulations.
*More government must be the answer to healthcare problems.
*Give businesses less flexibility
*More government involvement with financial stuff.
*Rolling back subsidies only on oil companies and not all of the other corporations/businsses on welfare because the democrats need support from them
*Haven't looked into it much, but may be a good idea.

you need to look harder and/or get your eyes checked ;)
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: loki8481
you need to look harder and/or get your eyes checked ;)

Oh trust me I understand what all of these mean and what they will do. It's the folks who support them that need to "look harder".

I see the democrats continue to play Santa Claus.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: loki8481
you need to look harder and/or get your eyes checked ;)

Oh trust me I understand what all of these mean and what they will do. It's the folks who support them that need to "look harder".

I see the democrats continue to play Santa Claus.

"* Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies and fix Medicare Part D "

you really think allowing medicare to negotiate the prices it pays for perscription drugs is a bad thing? it would be a nice change from the current system that the republicans basically setup as a hand-out for drug companies.

*More government involvement with financial stuff.

the government is involved whether you like it or not, that's not changing... and encouraging higher education can only be a good thing for our country when we're already falling behind in terms of science and tech.

*Rolling back subsidies only on oil companies and not all of the other corporations/businsses on welfare because the democrats need support from them

sometimes corporate welfare is beneficial for the company... I'm not sure it is when the corporations in question are making record profits.
 

Zebo

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I don't see middle class tax cuts in there who they claim to represent and claimed Bush's tax cuts did'nt do enough to address. I guess they forgot. How bout reducing excise taxes on gas that would help lots of families out as thier weekly fillup would go down. I like the rest.
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: Craig234
The democrats have come out with their set of policies they plan to use if they get the majority, calling it the policies for the first 100 hours.

This is from Nancy Pelosi:

* Impose new rules and regulations to break the link between lobbyists and legislation
* Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies and fix Medicare Part D
* Stop Social Security and Medicare privatization plans in their tracks
* Raise the minimum wage to $7.25
* Cut the interest rates on student loans in half
* Roll back subsidies to Big Oil and gas companies
* Enact all the recommendations made by the independent 9/11 Commission

I agree with all of them.

I agree with all of that except the parts about minimum wage raise and killing the SS/Medicare privatization. Hell, even Clinton looked into having SS privatized.
 
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Originally posted by: Craig234
The democrats have come out with their set of policies they plan to use if they get the majority, calling it the policies for the first 100 hours.

This is from Nancy Pelosi:

* Impose new rules and regulations to break the link between lobbyists and legislation
YES! I agree with this. However I feel that this is a case of the fox regluating visits to the henhouse... the loopholes will be large
* Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies and fix Medicare Part D
This I agree with however I fear the end result will be more incomprehensible paperwork for patients and health care providers. If they can do this in a way that makes sense, great. But even Dems are politicians... and once they are in charge where do you think the pharma-bucks are going to be directed? Look for huge loopholes.
* Stop Social Security and Medicare privatization plans in their tracks
Yikes. LET ME OUT OF SOCIAL SECURITY!!! PLEASE! I don't want any of it. I'll sign any waiver you want! Just let me off this sinking ship!
* Raise the minimum wage to $7.25
All hat and no cattle... raising MW doesn't help anyone in the long run
* Cut the interest rates on student loans in half
Cool. But how is this paid for? And how does this affect private loan companies?
* Roll back subsidies to Big Oil and gas companies
Looks good as an issue but a lot of those subsidies are funding alternative energy plans (see the wind farms in Hawaii). Sour grapes legislation against an industry that is currently very profitable if you ask me. (Note, nobody took pity on the oil companies when they were losing money while oil was at $8/bbl)
* Enact all the recommendations made by the independent 9/11 Commission
What will that change? More regulations... More 9/11 fees... Added expense to everything we do/buy with little positive impact on our actual safety. Airport security is a perfect example... More security agents at the security gate and it takes longer to get through. Plus we all pay a higher ticket price for the inconvenience. And would any of these new regs have stopped 9/11? Nope. Again, sounds good but accomplishes little.


I agree with all of them.

 

trenchfoot

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Originally posted by: Craig234
The democrats have come out with their set of policies they plan to use if they get the majority, calling it the policies for the first 100 hours.

This is from Nancy Pelosi:

* Impose new rules and regulations to break the link between lobbyists and legislation
* Allow the government to negotiate with drug companies and fix Medicare Part D
* Stop Social Security and Medicare privatization plans in their tracks
* Raise the minimum wage to $7.25
* Cut the interest rates on student loans in half
* Roll back subsidies to Big Oil and gas companies
* Enact all the recommendations made by the independent 9/11 Commission

I agree with all of them.
the only one i disagree with is the "rollback" on oil subsidies. it should read "eliminate".
or maybe ala apocalypse now: "eliminate with extreme prejudice."
 

Pabster

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LOL, Pelosi is sure popping up right and left all of a sudden.

Too bad this is nothing but BS rhetoric and drivel per usual. Are we to believe Dems are going to cut off soft money which flows readily in to their coffers?

And they've talked about raising the minimum wage for YEARS. It's nothing but talk. And only the poorest sheeple will fall for it.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Too bad this is nothing but BS rhetoric and drivel per usual. Are we to believe Dems are going to cut off soft money which flows readily in to their coffers?

And they've talked about raising the minimum wage for YEARS. It's nothing but talk. And only the poorest sheeple will fall for it.

we've given the republicans 12 years and have gotten nothing to show for it... the way I see things, there's no way the democrats could really do a *worse* job.
 
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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Pabster
Too bad this is nothing but BS rhetoric and drivel per usual. Are we to believe Dems are going to cut off soft money which flows readily in to their coffers?

And they've talked about raising the minimum wage for YEARS. It's nothing but talk. And only the poorest sheeple will fall for it.

we've given the republicans 12 years and have gotten nothing to show for it... the way I see things, there's no way the democrats could really do a *worse* job.

They would just screw up differently.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Pabster
Too bad this is nothing but BS rhetoric and drivel per usual. Are we to believe Dems are going to cut off soft money which flows readily in to their coffers?

And they've talked about raising the minimum wage for YEARS. It's nothing but talk. And only the poorest sheeple will fall for it.

we've given the republicans 12 years and have gotten nothing to show for it... the way I see things, there's no way the democrats could really do a *worse* job.

They would just screw up differently.

only one way to find out :p
 
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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Pabster
Too bad this is nothing but BS rhetoric and drivel per usual. Are we to believe Dems are going to cut off soft money which flows readily in to their coffers?

And they've talked about raising the minimum wage for YEARS. It's nothing but talk. And only the poorest sheeple will fall for it.

we've given the republicans 12 years and have gotten nothing to show for it... the way I see things, there's no way the democrats could really do a *worse* job.

They would just screw up differently.

only one way to find out :p
Considering their supposed agenda... I'd rather go with the devil I know.
 

Craig234

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Well, of course the ideologues are incapable of understanding the benefits of the democrats' plans - they just blindly spout the ideology, oh nos government interference in something.

The republicans count on the easily duped - allowing them to get, for example, the huge drug donations in exchange for a giveaway of tax dollars by banning the government from negotiating drug prices - and the republican cult members say oh, that's ok, just don't elect the democrats.

I think rational people will largely see these as good, and hopfully we'll get to see them enacted, though I expect we'll see a whole lot more vetoes from Bush all of a sudden.
 
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Originally posted by: Craig234
Well, of course the ideologues are incapable of understanding the benefits of the democrats' plans - they just blindly spout the ideology, oh nos government interference in something.

The republicans count on the easily duped - allowing them to get, for example, the huge drug donations in exchange for a giveaway of tax dollars by banning the government from negotiating drug prices - and the republican cult members say oh, that's ok, just don't elect the democrats.

I think rational people will largely see these as good, and hopfully we'll get to see them enacted, though I expect we'll see a whole lot more vetoes from Bush all of a sudden.

And then there's you. :p
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Pabster
LOL, Pelosi is sure popping up right and left all of a sudden.

Too bad this is nothing but BS rhetoric and drivel per usual. Are we to believe Dems are going to cut off soft money which flows readily in to their coffers?

And they've talked about raising the minimum wage for YEARS. It's nothing but talk. And only the poorest sheeple will fall for it.

Rather have "BS rhetoric and drivel per usual" than the outright destruction of the U.S. at the hands of the GOP thugs.
 

Aisengard

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So what happened to the "Democrats have no plan", the main (only) reason for voting Republican? Guess that went right out the window with all the rest of the Republican BS and rhetoric, huh?
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Aisengard
So what happened to the "Democrats have no plan", the main (only) reason for voting Republican? Guess that went right out the window with all the rest of the Republican BS and rhetoric, huh?

The bigger question is do the Democrats have enough votes to override?

If not, then none of what they propose will happen. Or maybe they don't understand.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Pabster
Too bad this is nothing but BS rhetoric and drivel per usual. Are we to believe Dems are going to cut off soft money which flows readily in to their coffers?

And they've talked about raising the minimum wage for YEARS. It's nothing but talk. And only the poorest sheeple will fall for it.

we've given the republicans 12 years and have gotten nothing to show for it... the way I see things, there's no way the democrats could really do a *worse* job.

They would just screw up differently.

only one way to find out :p
Considering their supposed agenda... I'd rather go with the devil I know.

Maybe, but switching the power around every once in a while is good for democracy. Even if both groups "screw up" so much that neither is really a better party, it takes them some time to reach that point and they won't be able to do anything truly bad for a while. Beyond that, having the entire government in the hands of ONE group is terrible for democracy. It's not pure chance that some of the best years in this country occurred during the Clinton/Gingrich years.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Aisengard
So what happened to the "Democrats have no plan", the main (only) reason for voting Republican? Guess that went right out the window with all the rest of the Republican BS and rhetoric, huh?

The bigger question is do the Democrats have enough votes to override?

If not, then none of what they propose will happen. Or maybe they don't understand.

Uh, I think you're missing the point. The entire point of a plan is so you can say you have a plan and give people some reason to GIVE you the power necessary to put the plan into action. You don't wait until you're in power to tell people what you want to do with that power, it's a lot harder to vote for someone if you don't know what they will do if they win. That only works if enough people dislike the other guy enough to vote against him. The Dems learned their lesson about this in 2004, and while it almost worked for Kerry, clearly they have realized that "the Democrats don't have a plan!" is one of the more powerful ways the Republicans are running their campaigns lately (strangely the tables have flipped and the Republicans are the ones running "anybody but the other guy" campaigns) and they clearly hope to cut that off at the knees.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: daveymark
LMAO! the dems just lost a bunch more votes by releasing that "plan"

Really? A lot of those measures are VERY well supported by voters as a whole. Health care reform and dealing with lobbyists are supported time and time again by the vast majority of people, privatization of Social Security and Medicare have virtually no support outside of the Ayn Rand crowd (as the Republicans recently found out in the ass-beating of the decade). Most people find the subsidies to "big oil" to be a rather strange government policy and would no doubt support rolling them back. And the 9/11 commission ideas would not only actually make us safer, but give the Democrats a STRONG stance on national security that stacks up very well against the invasion of Iraq as the cornerstone of the Bush anti-terrorism policy.

It might be too little too late, but if every voter goes into the booths thinking about these ideas, the Dems will win a landslide. Neo-cons aren't going to buy into those ideas of course, but they aren't the target market and they don't posses NEAR enough votes to swing the election.
 

TravisT

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Wow, raising minimum wage that much at once will cause huge inflation in my opinion. I was actually planning on voting Democrat possibly if I felt they had a good economic plan. But with the things listed, the way i'm paid, this will only take money out of my pocket in the long run. As some mentioned, there was nothing really in there to help out the middle class. ALthough i'll be the first person to admit that Democrats are good with economic issues. I'm not sure this is a plan that I could support.

Can someone please explain how "Rolling back" subsidies to Big Oil companies will work with energy issues? Wouldn't this only increase pricing at the pump... something we are trying to avoid? I'm not bashing the plan, but unlike what I thought hte Democratic party would do... I don't see how these things will be helping MY pocketbook... and i'm as middle class as they come, people they seem to be worried about.