The Death-ray is here....

Goosemaster

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The Ray Gun


MOODY AIR FORCE BASE, Georgia (AP) -- The military's new weapon is a ray gun that shoots a beam that makes people feel as if they will catch fire.

The technology is supposed to be harmless -- a non-lethal way to get enemies to drop their weapons.

Military officials say it could save the lives of civilians and service members in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

The weapon is not expected to go into production until at least 2010, but all branches of the military have expressed interest in it, officials said. (Watch a demo of the ray gun Video)

During the first media demonstration of the weapon Wednesday, airmen fired beams from a large dish antenna mounted atop a Humvee at people pretending to be rioters and acting out other scenarios U.S. troops might encounter.

The crew fired beams from more than 500 yards (455 meters) away, nearly 17 times the range of existing non-lethal weapons, such as rubber bullets.

While the sudden, 130-degree Fahrenheit (54.44 Celsius) heat was not painful, it was intense enough to make participants think their clothes were about to ignite.

"This is one of the key technologies for the future," said Marine Col. Kirk Hymes, director of the non-lethal weapons program that helped develop the weapon. "Non-lethal weapons are important for the escalation of force, especially in the environments our forces are operating in."

The system uses millimeter waves, which can penetrate only 1/64th of an inch of skin, just enough to cause discomfort. By comparison, common kitchen microwaves penetrate several inches of skin.

The millimeter waves cannot go through walls, but they can penetrate most clothing, officials said. They refused to comment on whether the waves can go through glass.

Two airmen and 10 reporters volunteered to be zapped with the beams, which easily penetrated various layers of winter clothing.

The system was developed by the military, but the two devices being evaluated were built by defense contractor Raytheon.

Airman Blaine Pernell, 22, said he could have used the system during his four tours in Iraq, where he manned watchtowers around a base near Kirkuk. He said Iraqis often pulled up and faked car problems so they could scout U.S. forces.

"All we could do is watch them," he said. But if they had the ray gun, troops "could have dispersed them."






from How Stuff Works concerning the very similar "Pain Beam"
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The U.S. Marine Corps is planning to develop a vehicle-mounted version of the system, which will be called Vehicle-Mounted Active Denial System, or VMADs


just...so badass...so very badass...
 

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While the sudden, 130-degree Fahrenheit (54.44 Celsius) heat was not painful, it was intense enough to make participants think their clothes were about to ignite.

Naked rioters!
 

So

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w00t. We all see how the taser hasn't been abused at all by those in power...at ALL.
 

vi edit

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If I wear a tin foil outfit will it protect me?
 

randay

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cool, my company works with raytheon on some stuff, nothing like this death ray though. one question, does it work on stray cats that like to sit on my car and leave muddy paw prints?
 

Doboji

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I applaud any and all advances in non-lethal weapons...

Seems like this could be very very effective especially in scenarios where you have large crowds with gunmen mixed in...

 

Jeff7

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Wow, that sure is a stealthy and compact package. I wonder how quickly it aims? Could one simply walk casually at a tangent to the vehicle, watching where the weapon is very obviously pointing?
 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
If I wear a tin foil outfit will it protect me?

It will induce large amounts of current and at the corona points it will burn you. What that means is it will spark a lot and shock you until your balls look like prunes and probably make you sh!t yourself twice.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: So
w00t. We all see how the taser hasn't been abused at all by those in power...at ALL.

Yeah, such widespread abuse. :roll:

Well, why not just ban these dangerous non-lethal devices and go back to shooting people and sicking dogs on them. That's the ticket!
 

So

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: So
w00t. We all see how the taser hasn't been abused at all by those in power...at ALL.

Yeah, such widespread abuse. :roll:

Well, why not just ban these dangerous non-lethal devices and go back to shooting people and sicking dogs on them. That's the ticket!

The problem isn't the potential uses of the taser, but that cops go nuts with them. Someone gets a little mouthy with a cop, bam, *taser*. The vast majority of situations that tasers are applied in seem to be either where force was completely unnecessary or where a healthy cop could easily just tackle the person. Yes, there are some legit uses, but they seem to be abused more often than not.
 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: So
w00t. We all see how the taser hasn't been abused at all by those in power...at ALL.

Yeah, such widespread abuse. :roll:

Well, why not just ban these dangerous non-lethal devices and go back to shooting people and sicking dogs on them. That's the ticket!

The problem isn't the potential uses of the taser, but that cops go nuts with them. Someone gets a little mouthy with a cop, bam, *taser*. The vast majority of situations that tasers are applied in seem to be either where force was completely unnecessary or where a healthy cop could easily just tackle the person. Yes, there are some legit uses, but they seem to be abused more often than not.

Stun, heavy stun, and kill. Three settings. Simple and clean.

Oops that's a phaser not a taser. Still a ways off. ;)

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: So
w00t. We all see how the taser hasn't been abused at all by those in power...at ALL.

Yeah, such widespread abuse. :roll:

Well, why not just ban these dangerous non-lethal devices and go back to shooting people and sicking dogs on them. That's the ticket!

The problem isn't the potential uses of the taser, but that cops go nuts with them. Someone gets a little mouthy with a cop, bam, *taser*. The vast majority of situations that tasers are applied in seem to be either where force was completely unnecessary or where a healthy cop could easily just tackle the person. Yes, there are some legit uses, but they seem to be abused more often than not.

No, you see a few videos of supposed abuse and suddenly (and ignorantly) think that means the majority of incidents are abusive.

Stun guns are used to protect the health and safety of the police, just as much as they are to protect the lives of the offenders. Why should a cop put even more of his safety on the line when the means of subduing the offender without risk exist?
 

So

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Wonder how useful it would be aginst a freeze ray

Well, I'd be a standard microwave with the front bashed in would be better.
 

Minerva

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A firehose full of deer piss is quite effective but does stink up the town pretty bad.