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The death of parallel and serial ports?

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Instead of giving you 4 USB, 2 serial and 1 parallel on the IO bracket and then giving you an extra bracket for your additional 2 or 4 USB ports they should give you 6-8 USB on the mobo's IO bracket and then if you need parallel or serial provide those on the extra bracket that fills the pci window.
 
when apple stops including/starts replacing a technology, 5 or so years down the line every PC manufacturer will be doing the same.
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Instead of giving you 4 USB, 2 serial and 1 parallel on the IO bracket and then giving you an extra bracket for your additional 2 or 4 USB ports they should give you 6-8 USB on the mobo's IO bracket and then if you need parallel or serial provide those on the extra bracket that fills the pci window.
Exactly!

 
I'd say go for it. The only thing is the computer in my dak is calibrated/dumped/changed via serial port. I atleast have to keep 1 laptop around with a serial port for this.
 
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Any predictions as to if/when they might start being phased out on a grander scale? Are they obsolete technolgies?
Obsolete? Never.

(At least for the geek types.)

I have an older, cheaper, PDA, that uses a serial port to 'sync' with. I also own an external hardware modem, which is useful, and saves a slot. Not to mention, using a serial port for things like UPS signaling, etc.

Parallel ports are useful for stringing a printer and a scanner onto, but those could be transitioned to USB. (Or better yet, Firewire. If you've ever used an older SCSI-based printer or scanner, you know how fast and efficient those are. I pity those stuck using a USB1.1 scanner/printer. I could hand-sketch things faster than those operate.)

But the one thing, that can never replace the parallel port - ultra-low-latency true parallel inputs (or outputs) to the PC. This is useful for building your own harness to use an arcade controller with the PC, or use to hack together nearly any sort of widget imaginable, that could make use of a 4/8/12-bit parallel bus. I built a PSX joystick interface too, but since the native PSX controller protocol is serial, those work just fine using a USB adaptor as well.

I can understand laptops leaving them out, the ports are physically somewhat large, and would be better suited to appear on the laptop's docking-unit, rather than on the laptop itself.
 
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
POS systems and other retail systems still use the serial and parallel ports for receipt printers and modems to name one current use. I know because I use one. I think they have some life yet but I feel the death rattle beginning to shake rattle and roll over the horizon for them.
Interestingly, I've seen more modern touch-screen retail POS systems, that are now sporting 12V USB ports. (Yes, 12V USB - it exists. Mostly industrial usage though.)

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
On a related topic, when will the floppy also go the way of the dinosaur. I mean we have to have a floppy for Raid/miscellaneous drivers and nothing else it seems. Jeesh. I know you can work around the floppy but I was speaking as the average consumer.

Well, they can pry my serial/parallel ports from my machine's cold, dying, skeletal remains... but the floppy? Yes indeed, it needs to die. The floppy isn't used for interoperability with other devices, only for data-storage. Data-storage, is a commodity, based on size and durability and transportability. The only reason that it still exists, is NT-based versions of Windows. We need bootable USB device floppy-emulation capabilities, in the same way that CDs can boot and emulate floppies. The difference is that USB storage devices could also be written to like floppies, whereas CDs are read-only. (Actually, for a Mt. Rainer-supporting CD drive, with an RW media inserted, it could theoretically be capable of re-writing sectors as well. Btw, why don't most DVD writer support Mt. Rainer any more, and why doesn't Windows' support it natively yet either?)
 
Parelell can't leave then where ould I plug in my LCD. My laptop does not have a serial port. I wish it did so I can plug in my radio scanner to program it while on the road
 
I have been serial-less and parallel-less on my laptop for years now. Pretty much all laptops from here on out will only sport usb2 and firewire connections. maybe the occasional desktop-replacement laptop might sport a serial port or two but i don't see them ever coming back on laptops again.

as for desktops there's little reason to get rid of them. they don't exactly take up much space at all and a lot of old devices use these ports. my laser jet printer is parallel only and so is my sharp zauras organizer. if you get rid of the port, i wouldn't have a port to plug these devices in.
 
serial and parallel ports are useless for "PCs." but they are far from dead in terms of use in computers. I do not use the serial or parallel ports on my desktop or laptop. I do use one parallel port for a printer (which also has usb). that's about it.

there are computers used in industry which have serial\parallel devices attached (industry specific) which home users and other industries will never use. serial devices are still used in POS machines (cash registers, etc) and those will never be replaced by "usb," etc.
 
I still use my Parallel port for my printing...The printer has usb but i could never get it to work right 🙁
and I still use the serial port on occation.
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Instead of giving you 4 USB, 2 serial and 1 parallel on the IO bracket and then giving you an extra bracket for your additional 2 or 4 USB ports they should give you 6-8 USB on the mobo's IO bracket and then if you need parallel or serial provide those on the extra bracket that fills the pci window.

We have a winner as far as I am concerned. This I would like to see. Very much so. Great idea!

This way full compatability will serial/parallel devices is maintained, but the PC will also be equipped with more USB and/or firewire devices, and as far as I am concerned, one can never have enough USB ports.
 
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Originally posted by: silverpig
Instead of giving you 4 USB, 2 serial and 1 parallel on the IO bracket and then giving you an extra bracket for your additional 2 or 4 USB ports they should give you 6-8 USB on the mobo's IO bracket and then if you need parallel or serial provide those on the extra bracket that fills the pci window.

We have a winner as far as I am concerned. This I would like to see. Very much so. Great idea!

This way full compatability will serial/parallel devices is maintained, but the PC will also be equipped with more USB and/or firewire devices, and as far as I am concerned, one can never have enough USB ports.

So put the PP and SP pins on the Mobo to hookup via a bracket?...seems like additional cost to me as it were most MB's have only 1 SP exit and as far as USB goes I already have six ports and 2 hubs for 15 outs and if I want more I just get another hub.
 
I almost forgot all out thermal printer and bundling machines are run by a serial or parallel. They're all on add-on cards though. None of them run directly off the motherboard port.
 
Originally posted by: NewBlackDak
I almost forgot all out thermal printer and bundling machines are run by a serial or parallel. They're all on add-on cards though. None of them run directly off the motherboard port.
This is why I need my MB P andS ports for my thermal Printer which does hook directly to my mobo and another Modem to strap for extra speed as Zepper stated...
 
I remember the installation and setup I did once for a fellow I knew that ran his own business, I set up his three printers and laser barcode scanner onto an HP PC for PoS system. Three parallel ports. Juggling IRQs was fun. 🙂 I'm just glad that beast was old enough to have ISA slots (this was a few years back), and I could slap a few cheap S/P cards in. I'm not sure what I would do if I was doing that today, and he had a more modern system. I'd say just purchase two additional PCI parallel-port cards, but the way OEM systems are designed, there most likely wouldn't have been enough PCI slots in the first place. Not to mention, many of those USB-to-parellel converters only work for output-only printers, not the more common "host-based printing" inkjet printers on the market.

 
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