Discussion The death of democracy is the by-product of allowing tech to remain the most unregulated industry globally.

[Indus]

Jon Stewart's podcast covered it recently with Maria Ressa:

Discuss..

Have "freedumbs" gone too far??

 

[Jaskalas]

Have "freedumbs" gone too far??

Insofar as... the freedom of the internet has allowed our signal to noise ratio to break.

Not only are lies and fiction given equal or greater weight than truth and fact, but enemy nation propaganda has infiltrated and corrupted us.
Our people gobbled that shit up and took it as gospel. They made a god damn religion out of it. They worship the noise. They created an alt-reality. And through that, the Internet has utterly unmade us.

It could have occurred other ways, through other mediums, but this occurred in the blink of an eye by comparison. It was a method we could not defend against without ending civil liberties as we know and understand them. As a society and a civilization we were not prepared for what the internet has wrought. The things we have used it for. And for that, we have lost our institutions. We are truly, utterly, unmade.

 

[fskimospy]

Insofar as... the freedom of the internet has allowed our signal to noise ratio to break.

Not only are lies and fiction given equal or greater weight than truth and fact, but enemy nation propaganda has infiltrated and corrupted us.
Our people gobbled that shit up and took it as gospel. They made a god damn religion out of it. They worship the noise. They created an alt-reality. And through that, the Internet has utterly unmade us.

It could have occurred other ways, through other mediums, but this occurred in the blink of an eye by comparison. It was a method we could not defend against without ending civil liberties as we know and understand them. As a society and a civilization we were not prepared for what the internet has wrought. The things we have used it for. And for that, we have lost our institutions. We are truly, utterly, unmade.

I agree the internet has created some very large social problems that we don't understand how to fight. People's brains are wired to know a few hundred people and from repeated association learn who is good/bad/trustworthy/not. Also, life in the past essentially forced us to interact with a broad spectrum of people because you didn't get to choose who lived in your town.

Now the internet has a functionally unlimited number of people to meet AND it allows you to only meet people who reinforce your opinions/feelings. I remember reading one of the reasons the coming out movement was so beneficial for gay rights was it used existing social networks. (I know Jaskalas is a good guy so if he comes out as gay then maybe gay people aren't so bad!) I wonder if that would happen as much today as everyone self-sorts.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I agree the internet has created some very large social problems that we don't understand how to fight. People's brains are wired to know a few hundred people and from repeated association learn who is good/bad/trustworthy/not. Also, life in the past essentially forced us to interact with a broad spectrum of people because you didn't get to choose who lived in your town.

Now the internet has a functionally unlimited number of people to meet AND it allows you to only meet people who reinforce your opinions/feelings. I remember reading one of the reasons the coming out movement was so beneficial for gay rights was it used existing social networks. (I know Jaskalas is a good guy so if he comes out as gay then maybe gay people aren't so bad!) I wonder if that would happen as much today as everyone self-sorts.

Watch this it’s exactly what you mentioned but eye opening particularly how he gathered the data.

JOIN OR DIE: A film about why you should join a club

A feature documentary on the life and work of civic guru Robert Putnam.

www.joinordiefilm.com

 

[Moonbeam]

People who hate themselves will believe anything that makes whatever sickness of choice they have adopted as compensation sound like it's being approved of by some Daddy figure. The bigger the bull horn that acceptance is handed out the more fools will fall victim. People are born needing the support of others and will die to be accepted at an age when their brains haven't even begun to be able to reason. Authoritarianism is only possible among those who are mentally ill and when it comes to self hate, that's everybody. People do not want to know this en masse so the disease is not only not recognized, it's incurable because of that.

The freedom people crave having is the freedom to act without regard for anyone's needs but their own. They want to get back to sucking at Mommy's tits, to that oceanic state of being now long lost to them.

Once there was a way to get back home so seek now a lullaby. You as an ego can't save yourself but Grace can.

 

[hal2kilo]

Insofar as... the freedom of the internet has allowed our signal to noise ratio to break.

Not only are lies and fiction given equal or greater weight than truth and fact, but enemy nation propaganda has infiltrated and corrupted us.
Our people gobbled that shit up and took it as gospel. They made a god damn religion out of it. They worship the noise. They created an alt-reality. And through that, the Internet has utterly unmade us.

It could have occurred other ways, through other mediums, but this occurred in the blink of an eye by comparison. It was a method we could not defend against without ending civil liberties as we know and understand them. As a society and a civilization we were not prepared for what the internet has wrought. The things we have used it for. And for that, we have lost our institutions. We are truly, utterly, unmade.

It's the clickbait algorithms.

 

[Jaskalas]

Maria Ressa speaking of the Philippines being the testing ground for this subversion of Democracy through social media.... which resulted in mass murdering President in Rodrigo Duterte.

What I never heard before is, apparently the Philippines is supposed to be a 3 branch Democratic government with Civil Rights and everything. They are/were like us.

 

[RLGL]

What about that **** in the white house?