THE DEAN DECEPTION

[Zebo]

Good read how dean is really worse than Bush:Text

 

[SuperTool]

You can please all people some of the time, some people all of the time, but not all people all the time. It's morons like these who voted for Nader and gave Bush the whitehouse.
But this goes to show that Dean is far from being a leftie that people paint him to be. He's anti-gun control, anti-deficit Democrat. He says starting the Iraq war was a mistake, and he's right. He also says leaving the job unfinished would be a bogger mistake, and he is also right.

 

[Corn]

Good read how dean is really worse than Bush

How can this be? I thought Bush was the devil? Surely no one can be worse than the devil, right?

 

[Zebo]

He also says leaving the job unfinished would be a bogger mistake, and he is also right.

That attitude kept us in Veitnam for and extra 7 more years under nixon/ford..killing tens of thousands. No thanks he should correct Bushs mistakes immediatly and not follow a road to perdition and bottomless money pit. But I'm very isolationalist..

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Corn

Good read how dean is really worse than Bush

How can this be? I thought Bush was the devil? Surely no one can be worse than the devil, right?

Never said Bush was. He does lots of things I don't agree with and are anti-constitutional and against "speak softy carry a big stick" which was repulican mantra since Thomas Jefferson.

Here's the problem with Dean (since that was what the thread was about)

Dean would impose a 'hybrid' constitution, 'American with Iraqi, Arab characteristics. Iraqis have to play a major role in drafting this, but the Americans have to have the final say.' Women's rights must be guaranteed at all levels."

At least the Bushies keep up the "democratic" pretenses and never openly proclaim their authoritarian intentions. The imperious Dean, on the other hand, makes no bones about America's role as the hegemonic power: with the Dean administration at the helm, the Americans will always have the final say. The man isn't running for President. He won't settle for anything less than Emperor.

 

[Red Dawn]

I don't agree with and are anti-constitutional and against "speak softy carry a big stick" which was repulican mantra since Thomas Jefferson.

LOL.. I think you meant Teddy Roosevelt. Jefferson wasn't a Republican (Lincoln was the first Republican President)

 

[Miramonti]

dean could be a serial killer and not be worse than bush. The lives that bush has helped to end in this world thru action and inaction are far more numerous than what a serial killer could ever manage.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

I don't agree with and are anti-constitutional and against "speak softy carry a big stick" which was repulican mantra since Thomas Jefferson.

LOL.. I think you meant Teddy Roosevelt. Jefferson wasn't a Republican (Lincoln was the first Republican President)

Red I know who said it. Maybe the way it's written it implies i think TJ said it but that's not the case, nevertheless TJ 's party (the democratic-republican party) was the forrunner the the Republican Party of Lincoln and continued on unil about Eisenhowers time... They were Anti-Federalist party opposed centralized federal controls and very pro states rights. Same people who demanded the Bill of rights and isolationoist polices.

 

[Zipp]

I hope Dean wins out of all the dem's running. Instead of just a Bush win in 2004,it will be Bush landslide.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Zipp
I hope Dean wins out of all the dem's running. Instead of just a Bush win in 2004,it will be Bush landslide.

:beer:

CkG

 

[Gaard]

C'mon you guys. Where's the fun in that? No matter which team you're for, you gotta hope for a good game.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Gaard
C'mon you guys. Where's the fun in that? No matter which team you're for, you gotta hope for a good game.

IMO it would be a good game Winning can be fun...you guys should try it sometime

CkG

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Zipp
I hope Dean wins out of all the dem's running. Instead of just a Bush win in 2004,it will be Bush landslide.

Why would you want that? You think he is a conservative? There's nothing remotely conservative about him in any sense of the word. It's time to start calling these neo-cons what they are, "militant extremists", since their entire platform seems to be a maniacal one of ULTRA-liberal spending for military and total information awarness police state where a person can just disappear without consititutional protections.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

I don't agree with and are anti-constitutional and against "speak softy carry a big stick" which was repulican mantra since Thomas Jefferson.

LOL.. I think you meant Teddy Roosevelt. Jefferson wasn't a Republican (Lincoln was the first Republican President)

Red I know who said it. Maybe the way it's written it implies i think TJ said it but that's not the case, nevertheless TJ 's party (the democratic-republican party) was the forrunner the the Republican Party of Lincoln and continued on unil about Eisenhowers time... They were Anti-Federalist party opposed centralized federal controls and very pro states rights. Same people who demanded the Bill of rights and isolationoist polices.

ummm... no it wasn't... the jeffersonian democrats became the jacksonian democrats which are the same democrats we have today.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

I don't agree with and are anti-constitutional and against "speak softy carry a big stick" which was repulican mantra since Thomas Jefferson.

LOL.. I think you meant Teddy Roosevelt. Jefferson wasn't a Republican (Lincoln was the first Republican President)

Red I know who said it. Maybe the way it's written it implies i think TJ said it but that's not the case, nevertheless TJ 's party (the democratic-republican party) was the forrunner the the Republican Party of Lincoln and continued on unil about Eisenhowers time... They were Anti-Federalist party opposed centralized federal controls and very pro states rights. Same people who demanded the Bill of rights and isolationoist polices.

ummm... no it wasn't... the jeffersonian democrats became the jacksonian democrats which are the same democrats we have today.

When the democrat-republican party broke in half in 1824 half became whigs which in 1854 became Republicans.. TJ would have been a whig...a republican.Text because of his states rights and isolationalist Ideas. I'm an immigrant and know these basics what they teach you in texas?

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

I don't agree with and are anti-constitutional and against "speak softy carry a big stick" which was repulican mantra since Thomas Jefferson.

LOL.. I think you meant Teddy Roosevelt. Jefferson wasn't a Republican (Lincoln was the first Republican President)

Red I know who said it. Maybe the way it's written it implies i think TJ said it but that's not the case, nevertheless TJ 's party (the democratic-republican party) was the forrunner the the Republican Party of Lincoln and continued on unil about Eisenhowers time... They were Anti-Federalist party opposed centralized federal controls and very pro states rights. Same people who demanded the Bill of rights and isolationoist polices.

ummm... no it wasn't... the jeffersonian democrats became the jacksonian democrats which are the same democrats we have today.

When the democrat-republican party broke in half in 1824 half became whigs which in 1854 became Republicans.. TJ would have been a whig...a republican.Text because of his states rights and isolationalist Ideas. I'm an immigrant and know these basics what they teach you in texas?

As a person who has taken 3 college courses on US history, I can say that you are wrong. Thomas Jefferson is the father of the Democratic Party; any historian or even a high school student taking AP US History can tell you that.

Of course in recent decades certain ideologies have changed, but historically that fact remains.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Good read how dean is really worse than Bush:Text

Its apparent that the author is not only a radical isolationist, but even a radical reactionary, in the fact that the ascribes to an ideology that was rendered obsolete over half a century ago with World War 2. For him to suggest that America should have stayed out of it discredits any word he has to say.