'The day the Constitution died'

Ferocious

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Sensenbrenner, marking up the document furiously, was astounded. Ashcroft and his people had written the magna carta of federal agents, freeing them to wiretap, search, arrest, and hold almost at will, with little judicial oversight.
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Interesting.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: FortFunFoSho
yah cause if you do drugs you are also somewhat a terrorist.

ya and if your name is FortFunFoSho your one ignorent biatch.
 

Infos

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Asscroft is worse than McCarthy ever thought of being.....:disgust:
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: 308nato
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Enemies foreign and domestic.

That should wake you up a bit. Ashcroft has done more to take away freedoms than Saddam ever could.
 

Amused

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Actually, the day the Constitution died would be when the New Deal was passed.

Since then they've kicked a long dead dog over and over again. This deal with Ashcroft is just another foot to the dearly departed pooch.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: Amused
Actually, the day the Constitution died would be when the New Deal was passed.

Since then they've kicked a long dead dog over and over again. This deal with Ashcroft is just another foot to the dearly departed pooch.

Wickard v. Filburn. 317 U.S. 111 (1942). Text
 

stormbv

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Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: FortFunFoSho
yah cause if you do drugs you are also somewhat a terrorist.

ya and if your name is FortFunFoSho your one ignorent biatch.

Yeah, because if that weed you buy is coming from farmers who grow it in Kentucky and West Virginia, you are supporting a family...err, I mean a terrorist.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Amused
Actually, the day the Constitution died would be when the New Deal was passed.

Since then they've kicked a long dead dog over and over again. This deal with Ashcroft is just another foot to the dearly departed pooch.

Wickard v. Filburn. 317 U.S. 111 (1942). Text


Care to paraphrase for the legally unelightend plus it's fucsken way to long:(
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Amused
Actually, the day the Constitution died would be when the New Deal was passed.

Since then they've kicked a long dead dog over and over again. This deal with Ashcroft is just another foot to the dearly departed pooch.

Wickard v. Filburn. 317 U.S. 111 (1942). Text


Care to paraphrase for the legally unelightend plus it's fucsken way to long:(

A farmer was penalized by the US government for growing more than his allotment of wheat. (even though he never sold it) The feds used the "interstate commerce" clause of the Constitution to control the production and sale of wheat.

Seriously, Carby, you could figure this out by reading the first two paragraphs. :p
 

virtuamike

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Originally posted by: stormbv
Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: FortFunFoSho
yah cause if you do drugs you are also somewhat a terrorist.

ya and if your name is FortFunFoSho your one ignorent biatch.

Yeah, because if that weed you buy is coming from farmers who grow it in Kentucky and West Virginia, you are supporting a family...err, I mean a terrorist.

Fight terrorism and buy California pot, support the economy.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Amused
Actually, the day the Constitution died would be when the New Deal was passed.

Since then they've kicked a long dead dog over and over again. This deal with Ashcroft is just another foot to the dearly departed pooch.

Wickard v. Filburn. 317 U.S. 111 (1942). Text


Care to paraphrase for the legally unelightend plus it's fucsken way to long:(

A farmer was penalized by the US government for growing more than his allotment of wheat. (even though he never sold it) The feds used the "interstate commerce" clause of the Constitution to control the sale of wheat.

Sreriously, Carby, you could figure this out by reading the first two paragraphs. :p

I still don't get it:p So The supeme court said or says what and this sets a presedent how? The government seemed to want to fix production levels from this private citizen and what he sell on the open market and fined him for doing otherwise right. So this is the first instance ever and before that you could produce and sell whatever right? I still don't see the large picture.

 

Moonbeam

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haha you ignorant fool
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I'd a thought somebody who wasn't could back up his argument.
 

JellyBaby

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Some do argue Honest Abe put the constitution to the shredder...well fire I suppose since they lacked shredders back in theme olden dayes.

After all it's called the "United States of America" not the "Federal Government of America Co-starring some small insignificant puppet entites calles states".