The Daily Shows' fans more educated than Bill O'Reilly

[fallenangel99]

Link

I thought it was common sense?? lol

 

[her209]

I liked their bit about Dan Rather and the Killian memos.

 

[kage69]

How does it go? Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives? :laugh:

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

is it any surprise? Liberals on the whole are more educated than their conservative counterparts. The essential definition of a liberal is one who openly seeks all information before making up their respective minds (open-minded). A conservative by definition is hesitant and unwilling to change his/her perspective.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
is it any surprise? Liberals on the whole are more educated than their conservative counterparts. The essential definition of a liberal is one who openly seeks all information before making up their respective minds (open-minded). A conservative by definition is hesitant and unwilling to change his/her perspective.

This has been brought up numerous times in this forum and there is no basis for this claim. Your definitions of the two political ideals are quite a ways off base as well.

 

[nageov3t]

I <3 The Daily Show

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
is it any surprise? Liberals on the whole are more educated than their conservative counterparts. The essential definition of a liberal is one who openly seeks all information before making up their respective minds (open-minded). A conservative by definition is hesitant and unwilling to change his/her perspective.

This has been brought up numerous times in this forum and there is no basis for this claim. Your definitions of the two political ideals are quite a ways off base as well.

yeah, id like to be able to agree that liberals are super-smart, etc etc.
but anyone can be an idiot.
that said, my favorite bit:

Relax, said Fox News Channel spokesman Rob Zimmerman.
"Comedy Central must have lost their sense of humor," Zimmerman said. "Without Jon Stewart, Comedy Central would turn into the Great American Country Channel."

what the hell does that mean?

 

[Luck JF]

Originally posted by: kage69
How does it go? Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives? :laugh:

No it's "If you're under 25 and and not a liberal you have no heart, If you're over 35 and not a conservative you have no brain" Fairly accurate too from my experience.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Luck JF

Originally posted by: kage69
How does it go? Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives? :laugh:

No it's "If you're under 25 and and not a liberal you have no heart, If you're over 35 and not a conservative you have no brain" Fairly accurate too from my experience.

awesome. im heartless!

wanton destruction and indifference to the environment are seen as highly desirable political traits in my eyes

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Luck JF
No it's "If you're under 25 and and not a liberal you have no heart, If you're over 35 and not a conservative you have no brain" Fairly accurate too from my experience.

What I think is funny is that people mistakenly believe Churchill said this, notwithstanding the fact he was more liberal in middle age than as a young man.

From The Churchill Center:

"Conservative by the time you're 35"
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." There is no record of anyone hearing Churchill say this. Paul Addison of Edinburgh University makes this comment: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed to him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35! and would he have talked so disrespectfully of Clemmie, who is generally thought to have been a lifelong Liberal.

 

[Luck JF]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Luck JF
No it's "If you're under 25 and and not a liberal you have no heart, If you're over 35 and not a conservative you have no brain" Fairly accurate too from my experience.

What I think is funny is that people mistakenly believe Churchill said this, notwithstanding the fact he was more liberal in middle age than as a young man.

From The Churchill Center:

"Conservative by the time you're 35"
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." There is no record of anyone hearing Churchill say this. Paul Addison of Edinburgh University makes this comment: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed to him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35! and would he have talked so disrespectfully of Clemmie, who is generally thought to have been a lifelong Liberal.

It doesn't matter who said it as long as it's basically accurate.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Luck JF

It doesn't matter who said it as long as it's basically accurate.

Well, I think it matters in that it would carry a lot more weight (at least IMO) if Churchill had said it. I understand nobody in this particular thread claimed Churchill said it, however.

 

[AntiEverything]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
is it any surprise? Liberals on the whole are more educated than their conservative counterparts. The essential definition of a liberal is one who openly seeks all information before making up their respective minds (open-minded). A conservative by definition is hesitant and unwilling to change his/her perspective.

Education and wisdom aren't related.

 

[Kerouactivist]

Jon Stewart is the best.....

 

[Hossenfeffer]

I :heart: The Daily Show

 

[lokni]

Originally posted by: Luck JF

Originally posted by: kage69
How does it go? Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives? :laugh:

No it's "If you're under 25 and and not a liberal you have no heart, If you're over 35 and not a conservative you have no brain" Fairly accurate too from my experience.

I must have no heart then, I am 22 and a Libertarian which is on the conservative side of things. Then again, I am netting $15,000 this month as a business owner.

<rant>
If only liberals would learn to apply some math to their ideas, they would see how stupid they are. I heard one liberal democrat friend say "we should raise taxes to %60 and provide healthcare and retirement to everyone in the country." Well if he did the math he would find out that by doing that this would leave only 40% of monthly income left over for housing, fuel, clothing, food and transportation costs. The effect of this would be the death of America's consumer goods markets. Sure, products will be made to be more durable, but innovation would die and thus little to no change in technology would occur from year to year. Now imagine all of the layoffs on assembly lines, truckers, longshoremen (port workers), train engineers, retail employees, etc. For all of the liberals out there, go do some math and figure out why many of the things you push just won't work in our society without negatively affecting millions of lives.

The Republicans may pander to the rich, but at least they are honest about it. The Democrats like to make changes under the auspices of protecting or providing for the working class. Howver, they fail to take into consideration on the local population which if many of their policies went in, socialized health care being the biggest, the economy will not be able to support it. Healthcare may win, but every other market will lost and lose big. /Rant

 

[Cerb]

One is entertainment that's angry.
One is entertainment that's funny.
Easy decision for me.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
is it any surprise? Liberals on the whole are more educated than their conservative counterparts. The essential definition of a liberal is one who openly seeks all information before making up their respective minds (open-minded). A conservative by definition is hesitant and unwilling to change his/her perspective.

First, that's not really a good description of liberal or conservative. Secondly, evidence shows that you are more likely to be Republican the more education you have. However, that also does not necessarily make one more educated, as the best education is hardly ever formal.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: lokni

Originally posted by: Luck JF

Originally posted by: kage69
How does it go? Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives? :laugh:

No it's "If you're under 25 and and not a liberal you have no heart, If you're over 35 and not a conservative you have no brain" Fairly accurate too from my experience.

I must have no heart then, I am 22 and a Libertarian which is on the conservative side of things. Then again, I am netting $15,000 this month as a business owner.

<rant>
If only liberals would learn to apply some math to their ideas, they would see how stupid they are. I heard one liberal democrat friend say "we should raise taxes to %60 and provide healthcare and retirement to everyone in the country." Well if he did the math he would find out that by doing that this would leave only 40% of monthly income left over for housing, fuel, clothing, food and transportation costs.The effect of this would be the death of America's consumer goods markets. Sure, products will be made to be more durable, but innovation would die and thus little to no change in technology would occur from year to year. Now imagine all of the layoffs on assembly lines, truckers, longshoremen (port workers), train engineers, retail employees, etc. For all of the liberals out there, go do some math and figure out why many of the things you push just won't work in our society without negatively affecting millions of lives.

This is why I'm not liberal if you ask me on the street. Liberalism is based on liberty. A left-liberal should be much more concerned with the Bill of Rights than taxing everyone to death. By the same token, I can't see a how a right-liberal would want that, either. In fact, a right-liberal would probably be more against it, since it would be such an economic threat. Trouble is, they want to not be liberal, and to not be conservative, but still use the labels to guide voters.

The Republicans may pander to the rich, but at least they are honest about it. The Democrats like to make changes under the auspices of protecting or providing for the working class.

And you dare consider these politicians liberals!

Howver, they fail to take into consideration on the local population which if many of their policies went in, socialized health care being the biggest, the economy will not be able to support it. Healthcare may win, but every other market will lost and lose big. /Rant

Was it not GWB who signed in the No Child Left Behind act? Yeah; it was. A lot of thinking about the local systems went into THAT one.

 

[Czar]

more good stuff
http://www.business-journal.co...wViewersKnowIssues.asp

The Annenberg survey found that people who watch The Daily Show are more interested in the presidential campaign, more educated, younger, and more liberal than the average American or than Leno or Letterman viewers. ?However, these factors do not explain the difference in levels of campaign knowledge between people who watch The Daily Show and people who do not,? Young pointed out. ?In fact, Daily Show viewers have higher campaign knowledge than national news viewers and newspaper readers -- even when education, party identification, following politics, watching cable news, receiving campaign information online, age, and gender are taken into consideration.?

During the mid-July to mid-September time survey period, Daily Show host Jon Stewart interviewed such political figures as Sen. John Kerry, Sen. John McCain, former President Bill Clinton, Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie, and White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett. In addition to the interviews, The Daily Show?s programs dealt with political news and issues of the day, from ?Mess O?Potamia? (ongoing coverage of the Iraq War), to the controversial anti-Kerry swift boat advertisements, to the value of ?objectivity? in news reporting.

Young people who watched The Daily Show scored 48% correct on the campaign knowledge test while young people who did not watch any late-night comedy scored 39% correct. Meanwhile, young people who watched four of more days of network news scored 40% correct, equally frequent cable news viewers 48% correct and newspaper readers 46% correct.

 

[RSaylors]

Originally posted by: fallenangel99
Link

I thought it was common sense?? lol

how does your link indicate that The Daily Shows' fans more educated than Bill O'Reilly?

I <3 The Daily Show

me to.

Originally posted by: Czar
more good stuff
http://www.business-journal.co...wViewersKnowIssues.asp

Daily Show viewers have higher campaign knowledge than national news viewers and newspaper readers -- even when education, party identification, following politics, watching cable news

but then it says

he Daily Show scored 48% correct on the campaign knowledge test while... equally frequent cable news viewers 48% correct

doesn't that look like your link is just trying to slant the story?

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

Originally posted by: RSaylors

Originally posted by: fallenangel99
Link

I thought it was common sense?? lol

how does your link indicate that The Daily Shows' fans more educated than Bill O'Reilly?

I <3 The Daily Show

me to.

Originally posted by: Czar
more good stuff
http://www.business-journal.co...wViewersKnowIssues.asp

Daily Show viewers have higher campaign knowledge than national news viewers and newspaper readers -- even when education, party identification, following politics, watching cable news

but then it says

he Daily Show scored 48% correct on the campaign knowledge test while... equally frequent cable news viewers 48% correct

doesn't that look like your link is just trying to slant the story?

His link is just trying to prove that Daily Show viewers aren't really less informed as others have suggested in the past. In fact they are equally or more informed than the rest.

Young people who watched The Daily Show scored 48% correct on the campaign knowledge test while young people who did not watch any late-night comedy scored 39% correct. Meanwhile, young people who watched four of more days of network news scored 40% correct, equally frequent cable news viewers 48% correct and newspaper readers 46% correct.

Four or more days is the key. I think they are trying to get timewise. Daily Show is 30 minutes a day for four days while I think people that get their news from cable and the paper read and watch it more than 30 minutes a day for four days. Since the Daily Show is 30 minutes each day for 4 days.

I hope that made sense.

 

[RSaylors]

His link is just trying to prove that Daily Show viewers aren't really less informed as others have suggested in the past. In fact they are equally or more informed than the rest.

ok, then it was just an poor title choice. That should be amended, don't you think?

Four or more days is the key. I think they are trying to get timewise. Daily Show is 30 minutes a day for four days while I think people that get their news from cable and the paper read and watch it more than 30 minutes a day for four days. Since the Daily Show is 30 minutes each day for 4 days.

I hope that made sense.

yes, i thought of that, but doesn't

equally frequent cable news viewers

refer to, for example, people who watch headline news four times/week?

 

[NightCrawler]

In American politics, "liberals" tend to be people who are somewhat ideologically left-of-center. They tend to favor more power at the federal level and federal intervention to regulate economic issues and certain social issues, particularly social issues involving civil liberties, and the rights of minority groups. Of the two major parties, the Democrats are generally considered more liberal. Traditionally, the bases of liberal support have been among minorities, urban voters, labor unions and academics, though that is evolving as U.S. politics change. Candidates and voters commonly refer to themselves and others as conservative, moderate (or centrist), or liberal.

 

[Isla]

I would also like to add that women who watch Jon Stewart rather than O'Reilly are simply demonstrating thier superior taste in men.

I don't have time to waste on angry, self-righteous whiners. I'll take a funny, honest, insightful perspective any day!

<Considers Mess O'Potamia genius