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The culture of corporate greed-Disney style.

chess9

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A mere 38 million dollars to Ovitz has shareholders upset. If Disney weren't trading at $22 but at $80 they'd be smiling. Anyway, is this the start of real reform in executive compensation? Probably not....

-Robert
 
If Disney were trading at $80, he would deserve that kind of reward for what he did and that kind of incentive to keep working at Disney to keep doing whatever it was he did right.
 
It's not a mere $38mil to ovitz...

For 15 months of labor, he got $38 million in cash, plus stock options valued at $101 million.

Wow, I don't blame the shareholders for suing. Not for one bloody second. I hope this spurs a backlash of shareholders against ludicrous and unearned pay packages.
 
A number of thread entries seem to assume that the value at which a stock sells is directly related to the value of the company. Although this may have been true once, most stock valuation now depends on projections. May I remind you that Time Warner bought AOL. About two years later (I'm unsure of the time but certain of the other facts) Time Warner wrote off $100 billion (that's Billion, with a "B"), saying, "Oops, we paid more than we should have." These were professionals who presumably knew the value of the stock and could take advantage of the full disclosure of facts made with a coporate acquisition. If the CEO had increased the stock value from $22 to $80, it would have involved techniques like those used to persuade us that Iraq is making progress. Presentation is everything and need not be related to facts except at crash time, as in Enron.
 
Whitling: yes, market value is simply where the supply and demand meet. However, if someone is willing to buy and someone else is willing to sell at that price, that's about the most objective measure we can come up with. It's like saying that the cost of duct tape is affected irrationally by terrorist scares. It's true, but that's how much duct tape costs at that moment.

There's supposed to be this thing called due dilligence that companies do before buying or merging to see if the stock is really worth how much it's trading for, but we're all human and can make mistakes and be influenced by others. The only real measure of how secure a company's profits are is the dividend they are paying out.

The recent tax cuts kind of help put dividends on a more fair ground compared to buybacks, but capital gains taxes also were reduced, so it's a bit of a wash now. You can't fake a dividend. You can fake a buyback by issuing more options and you can fake earnings by moving numbers into convenient rows, but a dividend is paid in cold, hard cash. Of course, you still need to take into account whether that dividend is sustainable, since the company could be borrowing cash in order to pay it.

The AOL-TW merger was one of the greatest financial disasters of recent times. (Enron, MCI WorldCom, and Tyco were simply scams.) They screwed up. Eisner is still screwing up at Disney, keeping their stock price low.

This is old news anyway, and it IS starting corporate reforms.
 
DealMonkey:

Good point. Well, the stock options may have been worth 101 million at one time.... 🙂

I don't see things changing. Many stockholders support these high levels of compensation, wierd as it may seem. Try to get an institutional investor to push for real change.... De natha....

-Robert
 
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