*THE* Credibility Thread

tallest1

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If X person wrote a book (without outside help), would it be considered a credible source of facts?

In every thread I create, I try to make the main topic as unbiased as possible but due to the lack of flamewars that result, they die pretty fast. However, I'm going to try again to start a good discussion.

If you are unsure of a person's background, I highly encourage you to look up his or her name and learn about their policies and stands on issues before you give a 'yes' or 'no' answer (or you can skip the question). In all fairness, upon request, I will add the name of any US official who has served between 2000 to present (until this newfangled poll feature breaks). Hopefully, this thread will serve a good indicator of whose book's would serve a good read on American history/perspectives.
 

SuperTool

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Colin is borderline. I put down not credible, though he could be credible if given enough distance from this administration.
The rest are not credible by a longshot.
 

arsbanned

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I voted in the affirmative for Powell. HE TRIED to be truthful, but in the end was forced to play along with the charade....
Excellent polls, btw.
 

Czar

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think I voted not credable for powell when I was going to vote for Cheney, didnt want to vote for Powell because im not sure about him
 

chess9

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Good grief, how could anyone find Powell credible. He sold his soul to the devil at the U.N. We're talking a major Faustian character here....

-Robert
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: chess9
Good grief, how could anyone find Powell credible. He sold his soul to the devil at the U.N. We're talking a major Faustian character here....

-Robert
Where the flock are these people's minds. Powell keeps being talked about as credible so he's credible. Jesus what a total sell out. SKAROO Powell.
 

Gaard

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If anyone writes a book while in office, they arern't credible...period.
 

CaptnKirk

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Why are there a total of 32 votes now for some and 31 for others ?

Where is the paper trail, and who is manipulating the vote count and why ?

Fuzzy Math - the numbers don't add up.
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Why are there a total of 32 votes now for some and 31 for others ?

Where is the paper trail, and who is manipulating the vote count and why ?

Fuzzy Math - the numbers don't add up.

Perhaps some people didn't vote on certain questions.
 

lozina

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There's a simple formula:

If the author of the book criticizes the Bush administration = NOT CREDIBLE

If the author of the book glorifies the Bush administration = CREDIBLE
 

chess9

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Well, I would agree with Orsurum. The only person on that list I would think about trusting would be Powell. I'd let him carry my drink from the bar to the table, but that's about it. I wouldn't give Bush the order 'cause he'd come back with a band aid on his face if he remembered to return at all.

-Robert
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: chess9
Well, I would agree with Orsurum. The only person on that list I would think about trusting would be Powell. I'd let him carry my drink from the bar to the table, but that's about it. I wouldn't give Bush the order 'cause he'd come back with a band aid on his face if he remembered to return at all.

-Robert

I think Powell is just loyal as a character and when he leaves the admin in the next elections he will be able to do some good on his own without distractions
 

chess9

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Czar:

I would never vote for Powell after this. Until his U.N. peformance I considered him a great American. Lying for an unjust cause is about as low as you can go. Powell hit bottom as far as I'm concerned. If he made some public mea culpas I'd probably re-think my view. But, without an apology to the public for his substantial and illegitimate role in this Iraq fiasco I don't think he deserves ANY respect.

-Robert
 

Ldir

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12 people find Cheney credible? Cheney's mom does not find him credible any more. I think Jeb is rigging the vote again.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: chess9
Czar:

I would never vote for Powell after this. Until his U.N. peformance I considered him a great American. Lying for an unjust cause is about as low as you can go. Powell hit bottom as far as I'm concerned. If he made some public mea culpas I'd probably re-think my view. But, without an apology to the public for his substantial and illegitimate role in this Iraq fiasco I don't think he deserves ANY respect.

-Robert
understandable, but he has a chance at least of regaining some trust he lost
 

tallest1

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This thread is dropping faster than Bush's approval polls. Final bump.

(And yet again, not a single conservative is capable of telling us who's credible BEFORE the books hit the shelves as lozina pointed out)
 

Perknose

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Well, the popular vote is one thing, as we have all learned. But what are the electoral college totals on these clowns? And, most important, how is the Supreme Court leaning?

Finally Colin Powell is no longer credible. He can't even pronounce his own first name properly. Just ask the Brits.
 

chowderhead

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Originally posted by: Ldir
12 people find Cheney credible? Cheney's mom does not find him credible any more. I think Jeb is rigging the vote again.

I did a Florida. The poll resets to the default credible after the first vote on GWB. One of the credible vote for tricky dick cheney *should* have been not credible. :frown:
 

Crimson

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Wow.. as CkG likes to say.. circle jerk!!!!

Its amazing how people like Powell are heros in the libs eyes, then they do something they don't agree with and all of a sudden he is evil.. flip/flop/flip/flop... just like your candidate.

Thread Summary:

Person I agree with = Credible
Person I don't agree with = Not Credible

We already know everyone's opinion on this, there have been 150 threads just like this one..

Its amazing, absolutely EVERY member of the Bush Administration is absolutely corrupt in your minds.. but in Clinton's Administration, you made excuses for everyone.. and believed everything he said.. Like I said, if you agree with someone, they are credible, if you don't they are not and evil.

Yawn..
 

chess9

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Crimson:

Why do you bother to keep telling us the same thing over and over again? Almost all of your posts have the same theme. We wouldn't mind you developing a creative streak. :)

Just a helpful hint.

I enjoy a good discussion, but....

-Robert