The Cost of Ignorant Economic Isolationism Laid Bare

[Perknose]

U.K. Outlines Plan to Avert Chaos of a No-Deal ‘Brexit’

The British government issued its first contingency plans on Thursday for leaving the European Union without an agreement, seeking to prepare the public for possible disruptions without spreading alarm that could undermine support for the entire undertaking.

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But in a series of technical documents, it warned that, without an agreement, importers and exporters could face significant new bureaucratic hurdles, that credit or debit card payments in Continental Europe could cost more, and that British citizens living in the bloc could lose access to banking and pension services.

Stupidity spans the Atlantic Ocean. On both sides of "the big ditch" the ignorant have voted. Their chickens will be coming home to roost . . . if they can still afford chicken, that is.

 

[dank69]

They'd just turn the chicken into some gross meal anyway.

 

[WelshBloke]

They'd just turn the chicken into some gross meal anyway.

Don't you talk about curry like that! :Colbert:

 

[WelshBloke]

U.K. Outlines Plan to Avert Chaos of a No-Deal ‘Brexit’



Stupidity spans the Atlantic Ocean. On both sides of "the big ditch" the ignorant have voted. Their chickens will be coming home to roost . . . if they can still afford chicken, that is.

It's a fucking nightmare tbh. If you even so much as suggest that everything might not be totally rosy after Brexit (and in my opinion it's going to be the worst shitshow a country has put on in a long time) and you get accused of fearmongering. It's like a certain section of the population think that if you ignore bad things they go away.

 

[mikeymikec]

It's a fucking nightmare tbh. If you even so much as suggest that everything might not be totally rosy after Brexit (and in my opinion it's going to be the worst shitshow a country has put on in a long time) and you get accused of fearmongering. It's like a certain section of the population think that if you ignore bad things they go away.

There are so many layers to the Brexit onion as well though, like the fact that we have a supposedly Remain-voting PM telling us "Brexit at any price" and a Leave-supporting opposition leader leading a party whose majority believes we should remain in the EU.

 

[Greenman]

U.K. Outlines Plan to Avert Chaos of a No-Deal ‘Brexit’



Stupidity spans the Atlantic Ocean. On both sides of "the big ditch" the ignorant have voted. Their chickens will be coming home to roost . . . if they can still afford chicken, that is.

There was a vote, the people made a choice, democracy worked as intended. In a few years we'll see the outcome of that decision. My guess is that it will be the same as virtually everything that's ever been voted on, some will claim it's the greatest thing ever, some will say it's the worst disaster since that rotten snake told Eve about apples.
The reality is that ten million stupid people don't make better decisions than one stupid person, it's the fundamental flaw in democracy. Once the people realize they can vote for anything they want, they'll vote for everything they want.

 

[Perknose]

There was a vote, the people made a choice, democracy worked as intended.

NO, it didn't. Democracy absolutely did NOT work "as intended.'' Educate yourself as the outright lies that went down, please.

 

[ecogen]

NO, it didn't. Democracy absolutely did NOT work "as intended.'' Educate yourself as the outright lies that went down, please.

This.
If you asked Leave voters what "Leave" actually meant you'd get 10 different answers ranging from EEA membership to full-retard-no-deal-wto Brexit. They were promised unicorns and now that it's becoming apparent that they're not getting them shit is gonna be fun. Hopefully Parliament finds its spine and somehow manages to either reject a no deal brexit or call a second referendum.

 

[JSt0rm]

white people be dumb when it comes to voting it seems.

 

[NostaSeronx]

white people be dumb when it comes to voting it seems.

Nope, psy-op operators are really good. They get in the conservative parties.

Then:
TRUTH ISN'T TRUTH!
The media is the enemy of the PEOPLE!
Do not believe what you see, believe what we want you to believe!

 

[WelshBloke]

There was a vote, the people made a choice, democracy worked as intended. In a few years we'll see the outcome of that decision. My guess is that it will be the same as virtually everything that's ever been voted on, some will claim it's the greatest thing ever, some will say it's the worst disaster since that rotten snake told Eve about apples.
The reality is that ten million stupid people don't make better decisions than one stupid person, it's the fundamental flaw in democracy. Once the people realize they can vote for anything they want, they'll vote for everything they want.

 

[Josephus312]

There was a vote, the people made a choice, democracy worked as intended. In a few years we'll see the outcome of that decision. My guess is that it will be the same as virtually everything that's ever been voted on, some will claim it's the greatest thing ever, some will say it's the worst disaster since that rotten snake told Eve about apples.
The reality is that ten million stupid people don't make better decisions than one stupid person, it's the fundamental flaw in democracy. Once the people realize they can vote for anything they want, they'll vote for everything they want.

An uninformed, misled populace cannot possibly make an informed choice.

Once the people understood the consequences UKIP tanked, BNP was almost abolished by all members and pretty much 80% of the leave voters were saying "if only I had known".

They made it sound like it would be nothing but a win-win situation where the UK could keep being a part of the EU open market but wouldn't have to pay for the EU establishment or allow free travel.

They were lying.

Now that the voters are finally informed, only the few morons still want this and had the vote been held today the remain side would have won by over 85%.

 

[Greenman]

NO, it didn't. Democracy absolutely did NOT work "as intended.'' Educate yourself as the outright lies that went down, please.

The only thing I found is that the leave group overspent by 9%, and appears to be involved with another group that wanted Brexit. Apparently that relationship was never disclosed as required by law.
I didn't find any credible reports of fabrications by either side, though I didn't spend a great deal of time searching.

What I find interesting is that social media is once again mentioned as a vector for targeted ads and possible meddling by outside sources. The claim was made that enough votes could have been influenced by facebook to change the outcome of the election. It can't be proven, but it's a disturbing concept.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't understand why there's not a do-over vote....

 

[NostaSeronx]

I don't understand why there's not a do-over vote....

That is undemocratic! YOU CAN'T THROW AWAY OUR CHOICE! We are in this together and nothing is going to stop BREXIT BOYO!

By will of the elderly you will respect our elderly choices you whippersnapping, wafflesnorting millennial. We don't give a care about the EU collapse by Russian undermining! *insert Nazi phrases via dog whistling*

Standard British politician/Enthusiast voter for Brexit.

 

[Greenman]

I don't understand why there's not a do-over vote....

How many of those should there be? Which group gets to decide when to stop? I don't see how they can go down that road and maintain the concept of democracy.
I read this evening that parliament can declare the vote invalid, but they haven't done that. Why not? If the entire thing was based on misinformation as a few fellows here have said, it seems to me they would take action.
I don't know enough about it to have an opinion, I simply assumed that the Brits wanted out and chose to do it.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I don’t think it’ll be the end of the world. There will be pain for sure, but the UK isn’t going to crumble by any stretch.

 

[mikeymikec]

Nope, psy-op operators are really good. They get in the conservative parties.

Then:
TRUTH ISN'T TRUTH!
The media is the enemy of the PEOPLE!
Do not believe what you see, believe what we want you to believe!

And "the people have had enough of experts"

 

[mikeymikec]

That is undemocratic! YOU CAN'T THROW AWAY OUR CHOICE! We are in this together and nothing is going to stop BREXIT BOYO!

By will of the elderly you will respect our elderly choices you whippersnapping, wafflesnorting millennial. We don't give a care about the EU collapse by Russian undermining! *insert Nazi phrases via dog whistling*

Standard British politician/Enthusiast voter for Brexit.

I love how the talking heads on the radio keep trotting out their worn-out lines of "why do we need a second referendum when we already had one and voted to leave the EU?": Seriously? I suspect there are 11-year-olds who could answer this question for you.

 

[ecogen]

I don’t think it’ll be the end of the world. There will be pain for sure, but the UK isn’t going to crumble by any stretch.

I don't think you have any understanding of what no-deal Brexit means if you really think that.

 

[mikeymikec]

I don't think you have any understanding of what no-deal Brexit means if you really think that.

Or what might happen inside a supposedly civilised country if the food supply is interrupted for even a few days! Considering how many people lose their minds if a bank holiday or Christmas is coming up because the supermarket is closed for like one day, and start stocking up like they're about to get cut off from civilisation by a natural disaster, even the possibility of that might do interesting things to a populace, not to mention the fact that some people will take advantage of the chaos and say start looting.

Still, it might shut the "stop talking about Brexit like it's a bad thing" types once they have to start thinking like that. If only schadenfreude was a food source.

Also, the question of the supply of meds is an interesting one, insulin being the most notable because it has to be refrigerated and is not produced in the UK at all.

 

[1prophet]

Or what might happen inside a supposedly civilised country if the food supply is interrupted for even a few days! Considering how many people lose their minds if a bank holiday or Christmas is coming up because the supermarket is closed for like one day, and start stocking up like they're about to get cut off from civilisation by a natural disaster, even the possibility of that might do interesting things to a populace, not to mention the fact that some people will take advantage of the chaos and say start looting.

Still, it might shut the "stop talking about Brexit like it's a bad thing" types once they have to start thinking like that. If only schadenfreude was a food source.

Also, the question of the supply of meds is an interesting one, insulin being the most notable because it has to be refrigerated and is not produced in the UK at all.

Then they have no one to blame but themselves since they want to live like grasshoppers for the moment and scoff at the ants who plan for the future.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Or what might happen inside a supposedly civilised country if the food supply is interrupted for even a few days! Considering how many people lose their minds if a bank holiday or Christmas is coming up because the supermarket is closed for like one day, and start stocking up like they're about to get cut off from civilisation by a natural disaster, even the possibility of that might do interesting things to a populace, not to mention the fact that some people will take advantage of the chaos and say start looting.

Still, it might shut the "stop talking about Brexit like it's a bad thing" types once they have to start thinking like that. If only schadenfreude was a food source.

Also, the question of the supply of meds is an interesting one, insulin being the most notable because it has to be refrigerated and is not produced in the UK at all.

Lol they ain’t gonna starve. Sounds crazy but they’re still able to import stuff.

 

[ecogen]

Lol they ain’t gonna starve. Sounds crazy but they’re still able to import stuff.

Again, you clearly don't understand what no-deal brexit means.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Again, you clearly don't understand what no-deal brexit means.

As was discussed in another thread, ships can still dock and food can still be unloaded. May cost more, and they aren’t gonna have the customs in place that they probably want to regulate it, but they aren’t gonna starve.