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The concept of Infinity.... no beginning nor no end
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Lyrics from Built To Spill's "Randy Described Eternity"
every thousand years
this metal sphere
ten times the size of Jupiter
floats just a few yards past the earth
you climb on your roof
and take a swipe at it
with a single feather
hit it once every thousand years
`til you've worn it down
to the size of a pea
yeah I'd say that's a long time
but it's only half a blink
in the place you're gonna be
where you gonna be
where will you spend eternity
I'm gonna be perfect from now on
I'm gonna be perfect starting now
stop making that sound
stop making that sound
I will say I forgot
but it was only yesterday
and it's all you had to say
every thousand years
this metal sphere
ten times the size of Jupiter
floats just a few yards past the earth
you climb on your roof
and take a swipe at it
with a single feather
hit it once every thousand years
`til you've worn it down
to the size of a pea
yeah I'd say that's a long time
but it's only half a blink
in the place you're gonna be
where you gonna be
where will you spend eternity
I'm gonna be perfect from now on
I'm gonna be perfect starting now
stop making that sound
stop making that sound
I will say I forgot
but it was only yesterday
and it's all you had to say
How does a finite mind grasp the infinite?
That is akin to the understanding of nothing - what is nothing? "that which rocks dream about" - aristotle. Can we really imagine or grasp nothing. Even if we point our fingers to a blank space in the air and indicate that herein lies nothing, there are billions of quarks making millions of atoms and thousands of molecules to from dozens of different gases, even in trace form, floating in that "empty" space.
No Thing.
Negations are difficult overall, yet they form the basis of our understanding for all science. Heat is heat. Cold is the absence of heat - the negative of heat. We think something is cold when in reality it just has no heat energy.
Now infinity is the absence of constraints when it comes to our most confusing dimension - time. Non-finitude. It is impossible to comprehend.
That is akin to the understanding of nothing - what is nothing? "that which rocks dream about" - aristotle. Can we really imagine or grasp nothing. Even if we point our fingers to a blank space in the air and indicate that herein lies nothing, there are billions of quarks making millions of atoms and thousands of molecules to from dozens of different gases, even in trace form, floating in that "empty" space.
No Thing.
Negations are difficult overall, yet they form the basis of our understanding for all science. Heat is heat. Cold is the absence of heat - the negative of heat. We think something is cold when in reality it just has no heat energy.
Now infinity is the absence of constraints when it comes to our most confusing dimension - time. Non-finitude. It is impossible to comprehend.
Everything has heat energy. Something we perceive as cold just doesn't have as much of it as something we perceive as hot. Even in the deep reaches of "empty" space, the temps do not reach absolute zero. At absolute zero, molecules break down, atoms lose their structure and converge... strange things happen.
and... infinity is very possible to comprehend.
and... infinity is very possible to comprehend.
That is a severe limitation, not only on your own mind, but on your perception of the human race as a whole. Infinity is quite a simple thing to grasp and fully comprehend. Maybe you have just forgotten how.
There's not much to comprehend about it, really. Most of us probably had a better grasp on the concept before we were even able to talk.
Savarak
Platinum Member
the fake paradox of gabriel's horn holds with imaginary paint with no molecules... if a gabriel horn was built, and try to fill with paint that has molecules... getting the paint to enter the tip would be like putting a pingpong ball inside an ice cream cone or funnel... the parts remaining still isn't "filled" or "painted", and theres an infinite distance beyond, so the actual amount filled by paint is virtually exactly nothing at all.
oo oo, i got one.
imagine a sparrow taking a beakful of water from a body of water the size of the pacific ocean. then that sparrow walking, not flying, 2000 miles to empty the beakful of water into a body of water the size of the atlantic ocean. the sparrow then walks back to the original body and repeats until it has emptied one ocean into the other.
All said and done, this has nothing whatsoever to do with infinity.
imagine a sparrow taking a beakful of water from a body of water the size of the pacific ocean. then that sparrow walking, not flying, 2000 miles to empty the beakful of water into a body of water the size of the atlantic ocean. the sparrow then walks back to the original body and repeats until it has emptied one ocean into the other.
All said and done, this has nothing whatsoever to do with infinity.
Koenigsegg
Banned
The after life is infinite. Try going there and report back to us what it's like.
Suspicious-Teach8788
Lifer
There is no beginning.
As the individual above pointed out, there are AS MANY Numbers between 1 and 2 as there are between infinity and negative infinity.
Cool thing is that there is no middle either in the number line. 0 is not the middle. There are just as many numbers to the left of 500 as there are to the right of 500 on the number line. =)
A lot of people cant grasp infinity, and so they argue 0.999999... (infinite 9s) != 1 because they think it never approaches 1, but the reality is with INFINITE 9s, it is 1. There is no approach. An APPROACH indicates truncation of the 9s, and thus the impossibility of infinity...
As the individual above pointed out, there are AS MANY Numbers between 1 and 2 as there are between infinity and negative infinity.
Cool thing is that there is no middle either in the number line. 0 is not the middle. There are just as many numbers to the left of 500 as there are to the right of 500 on the number line. =)
A lot of people cant grasp infinity, and so they argue 0.999999... (infinite 9s) != 1 because they think it never approaches 1, but the reality is with INFINITE 9s, it is 1. There is no approach. An APPROACH indicates truncation of the 9s, and thus the impossibility of infinity...
Suspicious-Teach8788
Lifer
What about God? God is infinite right?
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