The commercial for quitting cigarettes by pfizer

[MikeMike]

really good commercial, its pretty much exactly what goes through most smokers heads...

 

[Slick5150]

Do they spell their URL wrong too?

 

[TurtleCrusher]

I saw this on TV today. I wish most people would stop smoking. At least don't do it around your kids.

My parents both smoked around me heavily as a child. I had the first stage of emphysema as a 16 year old. I'm 21 now and have no idea where my lungs stand.

 

[ShawnD1]

Pfizer can try all they want, but nothing will change. One of my friends was able to stop smoking by taking a drug called bupropion, but a lot of people I know refuse to try this because "I don't take pills"

Fine. Kill yourself. These pills probably kill you too but at least you won't smell like a hobo.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Pfizer can try all they want, but nothing will change. One of my friends was able to stop smoking by taking a drug called bupropion, but a lot of people I know refuse to try this because "I don't take pills"

Fine. Kill yourself. These pills probably kill you too but at least you won't smell like a hobo.

Under no circumstance are the pills ever worse for you than a lifetime of smoking cigarettes.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Pfizer can try all they want, but nothing will change. One of my friends was able to stop smoking by taking a drug called bupropion, but a lot of people I know refuse to try this because "I don't take pills"

Fine. Kill yourself. These pills probably kill you too but at least you won't smell like a hobo.

Under no circumstance are the pills ever worse for you than a lifetime of smoking cigarettes.

Yeah, talk about flawed logic. I'll keep destroying my body by inhaling chemicals, but I don't trust those pills.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
I saw this on TV today. I wish most people would stop smoking. At least don't do it around your kids.

My parents both smoked around me heavily as a child. I had the first stage of emphysema as a 16 year old. I'm 21 now and have no idea where my lungs stand.

I agree smoking should never be around kids for both social, health, and just plain old cleanliness but the "first stage of emphysema" does not sound entirely accurate. You either have the illness or you don't. Preliminary tests would show blockage of the lungs. Anything else could be considered cold, allergies, infection, out of shape, asthma, false-positive...etc... In medical terms there is no such thing as "first stage", but maybe "at risk". And having two heavy smokers surrounding you as you grew up I guess might put you "at risk". It's like a doctor calling a 500lb man a pre-diabetic. He does not have the disease, might never get it, but he'll likely die of a heart attack or stroke long before he dies of diabeties.

I never put to much stock into the medical reports that tried to put meaning into the statistics and conjecture that came about 2nd hand smoke. In terms of sociology, smoking is just becoming another taboo like suicide and being homeless bum. People are starting to look at smokers the same way they do at the homeless and just as easily dismiss a person who died of suicide as a smoker would die from lung cancer.

 

[coldmeat]

My parents smoked around the house/in the car when I was a kid. My mom quit when I was younger but my dad is still at it. His logic is that he's going to die young anyways, so he might as well smoke and drink while he's alive. His parents died young so he just assumes he's going to as well. He smokes a lot and drinks every night. The smoking wouldn't bother me all that much except he smells pretty bad a lot of the time and he still smokes when I'm in the car with him and that's 5-10 times a day (I'm working for him until I go back to school).

I still don't understand how someone could smoke. It's been proven a hundred times over that there is no benefit to smoking and it makes you smell like shit, causes a million health problems, shortens your life, ruins your teeth/hands, and ruins your sense of taste. How could someone have any respect for their body and smoke?

 

[danzigrules]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Pfizer can try all they want, but nothing will change. One of my friends was able to stop smoking by taking a drug called bupropion, but a lot of people I know refuse to try this because "I don't take pills"

Fine. Kill yourself. These pills probably kill you too but at least you won't smell like a hobo.

Under no circumstance are the pills ever worse for you than a lifetime of smoking cigarettes.

Yeah, talk about flawed logic. I'll keep destroying my body by inhaling chemicals, but I don't trust those pills.

Yeah the side effects of those pills are just a part of your imagination.

I guess you don't really listen to those pill commercials anymore do you?

 

[JTsyo]

Originally posted by: coldmeat
My parents smoked around the house/in the car when I was a kid. My mom quit when I was younger but my dad is still at it. His logic is that he's going to die young anyways, so he might as well smoke and drink while he's alive. His parents died young so he just assumes he's going to as well. He smokes a lot and drinks every night. The smoking wouldn't bother me all that much except he smells pretty bad a lot of the time and he still smokes when I'm in the car with him and that's 5-10 times a day (I'm working for him until I go back to school).

I still don't understand how someone could smoke. It's been proven a hundred times over that there is no benefit to smoking and it makes you smell like shit, causes a million health problems, shortens your life, ruins your teeth/hands, and ruins your sense of taste. How could someone have any respect for their body and smoke?

Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: coldmeat
It's been proven a hundred times over that there is no benefit to smoking...

There's lots of benefits to tobacco usage, but you'll never hear any of it from the anti tobacco zealots.

 

[Rebasxer]

Another smokers are evil thread....aren't there enough of these already?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: danzigrules

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Pfizer can try all they want, but nothing will change. One of my friends was able to stop smoking by taking a drug called bupropion, but a lot of people I know refuse to try this because "I don't take pills"

Fine. Kill yourself. These pills probably kill you too but at least you won't smell like a hobo.

Under no circumstance are the pills ever worse for you than a lifetime of smoking cigarettes.

Yeah, talk about flawed logic. I'll keep destroying my body by inhaling chemicals, but I don't trust those pills.

Yeah the side effects of those pills are just a part of your imagination.

I guess you don't really listen to those pill commercials anymore do you?

*woosh*

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: coldmeat
It's been proven a hundred times over that there is no benefit to smoking...

There's lots of benefits to tobacco usage, but you'll never hear any of it from the anti tobacco zealots.

I always think of smoking as being an indicator of a bigger problem. If you're smoking to calm down, you need to ask why your life is so stressful that you need to calm down all the time. A less-common cause for smoking is because it improves sensory perception in schizophrenics; link. My grandmother smoked because she claimed it helped her breathe better. Assuming she's not a liar, her problem was very likely caused by low levels of acetylcholine and smoking improved this because nicotine hits nicotinic acetylcholine receptors.

This is likely why smoking will never go away completely. If it's used to treat an underlying problem (ie schizophrenia) then no amount of effort will stop people from using it. My friend who quit smoking by taking bupropion is still taking bupropion after about 5 years. He didn't "stop" anything; he just replaced one drug with another. The underlying problem that makes him want to smoke is still there, but at least now he won't die from smoking-related illnesses. That and bupropion is ridiculously cheap compared to smoking, it's closer to $10/month (with insurance) instead of $10/day.