Before I get into addressing the skillful digressions typical of a response from Moonbeam, I just want to say that I agree with Moonbeam that the Bush presidency is by far the worst in history. And anyone thinking that McCaine is the better choice than Obama is misguided.
But on to the wacky world of Moonbeam.
(For the record, I probably won't be able to stomach more than two or three back and forths here. Moonbeam twists and turns and pretends you've made statements you haven't. Eventually, 95% of a response to him is simply correcting all the inaccurate garbage about your previous posts [and your alleged motives] that he dumps on the discussion. He's already begun that here. Read. Think. Be amazed. Be incredulous.)
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
shira: First, Moonbeam, you have made "that assumption." For you to have fully comprehended the question, you had to have made the assumption at least temporarily.
M: It wasn't an assumption. Knowledge not in evidence was presented as fact.
Nonsense. No fact was stated by me. A hypothetical was raised: "If there were . . ." Followed by a question. The assumptions and facts are all in your own mind. Please improve your reading skills.
s: One cannot understand another fully without putting oneself in the other's shoes, socks, underpants, slacks, undershirt, shirt, and hat. And once the assumption was made, why backtrack and avoid speculating?
M: Who understood another, much less fully?. I understood nothing and that's why I see the assumptions just as I see the ones you make here.
S: You're talking out of both sides of your mouth again, in the same sentence. Your own words are "I see the assumptions just as I see the ones you make here." You are claiming knowledge about what my assumptions are. There's no humility there, no doubt. You didn't say, "I believe that what I'm seeing is . . ." No, you're speaking with self-satisfied certainty.
Stop playing these games. This "I know nothing" nonsense is just a strategy you frequently play. In fact, you're filled with ego and "know" (however mistakenly) you know plenty, despite your disclaimers.
s: Second, in that post of yours I quoted, you DID compare your personal not-knowing-anything with that of another. So unless you've unlearned even more stuff since that previous post, your "how are you going to compare" sounds inconsistent.
M: I pointed out that somebody knew stuff I no longer make assumptions about because he made the assumptions. I don't believe what his assumptions tell him are truths. I stated a fact that he takes on faith more than me. The notion that I am comparing is what you brought to the table because it's what you are doing, engaging in a battle of wits to be sure you don't come out on the short end. You compare because you're competitive because you have an internal war. You have needs that act on you unconsciously.
You're dissembling again. The issue of "comparison" related to a response your made to Nebor, not your response to me. To quote again, that earlier post
by you was, "I'm smarter than you because . . ." Last I heard, "smarter" is a comparative. There's no "notion" that you're comparing. You ARE comparing.
You're so wrapped up in defending yourself, you can't see your own actions. Alternatively you do see your own actions, but you won't acknowledge them.
s: But what do I know, right?
M: I don't know but what do you feel? That's the important question to me.
I don't believe that the feelings of others are "the important question" to you. If they were, then your posts would be saturated with sympathetic inquiries about others feelings, and your statements would relate to feelings, not your actual innumerable statements about knowledge and ego, and calling other people "fools" in numerous ways. A sampling of your posts in just this thread:
This is an example of a fool who is a fool because he can grapple with psychological questions.
Here we have another brain dead lupi.
Another ideological purist absolutist dreamer. He is waiting to vote for the Messiah. He will wait forever while the world itself rots from his inaction.
Some fools will sit on a turd that's being flushed down the toilet because, theoretically, it's the safest place in the bowl. You are stuffed full of your opinions and can't think through fundamentals.
Are you the fool who would chose hell if you can carry a gun? You just might be.
The classic fool. Stay the course, sail straight on into further disaster.
That's because you are the kind of fool that goes for the superficial.
You must be another of the feeble minded who post here and who hasn't comprehended yet that everything is opinion but that one opinion may be presented with sound evidence backing it up and another, such as your own here just blown out your ass.
Yeah. Feelings are the important thing to you. I think the only real importance you give to feelings is as a gambit to sidetrack a discussion.
s: And the exciting answer to that last question is - even less than you. Ooooooooooooo
M: Help yourself to your imaginary win. What you need to get over on me I don't need to get over on you.
No, no. Gotta give credit where credit is due. Clearly, you know much, much less than I.