The Chinese got the right idea.

Hacp

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http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin...hina-Suicide-Help.html

BEIJING (AP) -- Chen Fuchao, a man heavily in debt, had been contemplating suicide on a bridge in southern China for hours when a passer-by came up, shook his hand -- and pushed him off the ledge.

Chen fell 26 feet (8 meters) onto a partially inflated emergency air cushion laid out by authorities and survived, suffering spine and elbow injuries, the official Xinhua News Agency said Saturday.

The passer-by, 66-year-old Lai Jiansheng, had been fed up with what he called Chen's ''selfish activity,'' Xinhua said. Traffic around the Haizhu bridge in the city of Guangzhou had been backed up for five hours and police had cordoned off the area.

I don't know why people make a big deal out of suicide attemps. Let them die and move on. They waste millions of dollars in economic activity.
 

theflyingpig

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This is the solution to all suicide attempts. Murder. If they can't do it themselves, we'll do it for them. Also, never fuck with traffic. Everyone knows this.
 

deejayshakur

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Originally posted by: Hacp

I don't know why people make a big deal out of suicide attemps. Let them die and move on. They waste millions of dollars in economic activity.

You feel that way until it happens to someone close to you.
 
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Originally posted by: Hacp


I don't know why people make a big deal out of suicide attemps. Let them die and move on. They waste millions of dollars in economic activity.

Talk about hyperbole. Millions?

Let's run with this idea of pushing them into it. At the very least, the guy who pushed him should face manslaughter charges. So, if it inconveniences you so much that you'd push someone [possibly] to their death, then you deserve to deal with the consequences. Let's see you rationalize pushing them to the family that's left behind.
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: Hacp


I don't know why people make a big deal out of suicide attemps. Let them die and move on. They waste millions of dollars in economic activity.

Talk about hyperbole. Millions?

Let's run with this idea of pushing them into it. At the very least, the guy who pushed him should face manslaughter charges. So, if it inconveniences you so much that you'd push someone [possibly] to their death, then you deserve to deal with the consequences. Let's see you rationalize pushing them to the family that's left behind.

it could easily be millions if the bridge has enough traffic.

40% * 120K cars * 1.5 people/ car * $10/ hr * 5 hrs = $3.6 million

i guestimated 40% of the cars would cross the bridge in a 5 hour span as long as that 5 hour span covers either the morning or afternoon rush hour and a brige with roughly the same amount of traffic as the golden gate bridge

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_...n_Gate_Bridge_each_day
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: Hacp


I don't know why people make a big deal out of suicide attemps. Let them die and move on. They waste millions of dollars in economic activity.

Talk about hyperbole. Millions?

Let's run with this idea of pushing them into it. At the very least, the guy who pushed him should face manslaughter charges. So, if it inconveniences you so much that you'd push someone [possibly] to their death, then you deserve to deal with the consequences. Let's see you rationalize pushing them to the family that's left behind.

it could easily be millions if the bridge has enough traffic.

40% * 120K cars * 1.5 people/ car * $10/ hr * 5 hrs = $3.6 million

i guestimated 40% of the cars would cross the bridge in a 5 hour span as long as that 5 hour span covers either the morning or afternoon rush hour and a brige with roughly the same amount of traffic as the golden gate bridge

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_...n_Gate_Bridge_each_day

Well your numbers are overly optimistic, but if you factor in police, coast guard, EMTs waiting on standby, you'll easily reach over a million.
 

Riceninja

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theyve got enough people to spare, whats one more life to these guys anyways
 

PottedMeat

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What's the big deal? This really isn't about suicide. The pusher had to have seen the police set up a cushion and was fed up with how long they were taking. If anything the police should be pissed a citizen intervened in a situation they had control over.
 

keird

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26 feet isn't too high. U.S. Paratroopers decend at 22 feet/second in full combat equipment. It is the equivalent of falling off a 2 story building. 26 feet isn't attempted murder when there's a big puffy balloon to prevent injury.

emo jumper is emo
 

PlasmaBomb

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Originally posted by: PottedMeat
What's the big deal? This really isn't about suicide. The pusher had to have seen the police set up a cushion and was fed up with how long they were taking. If anything the police should be pissed a citizen intervened in a situation they had control over.

Indeed. The real question is why the safety mat was only partially inflated after five hours :roll:
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
What's the big deal? This really isn't about suicide. The pusher had to have seen the police set up a cushion and was fed up with how long they were taking. If anything the police should be pissed a citizen intervened in a situation they had control over.

Indeed. The real question is why the safety mat was only partially inflated after five hours :roll:

Hey, you try blowing up one of those fuckers.
 
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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: Hacp


I don't know why people make a big deal out of suicide attemps. Let them die and move on. They waste millions of dollars in economic activity.

Talk about hyperbole. Millions?

Let's run with this idea of pushing them into it. At the very least, the guy who pushed him should face manslaughter charges. So, if it inconveniences you so much that you'd push someone [possibly] to their death, then you deserve to deal with the consequences. Let's see you rationalize pushing them to the family that's left behind.

it could easily be millions if the bridge has enough traffic.

40% * 120K cars * 1.5 people/ car * $10/ hr * 5 hrs = $3.6 million

i guestimated 40% of the cars would cross the bridge in a 5 hour span as long as that 5 hour span covers either the morning or afternoon rush hour and a brige with roughly the same amount of traffic as the golden gate bridge

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_...n_Gate_Bridge_each_day

Well your numbers are overly optimistic, but if you factor in police, coast guard, EMTs waiting on standby, you'll easily reach over a million.

Optimistic to say the least. Actually you wouldn't reach over a million based on police, coast guard, and EMTs as most of those services are already paid for if they're used or not. If the EMTs actually have to do something or if they call in a helicopter, then cost will go up, but even then a million is nowhere near what it'd likely directly cost.

As for opportunity cost, that's a lousy measure for the economic incidence (most of that will be made up at a later time, and what won't be is largely insignificant).

Let's think of the number of bridges in the entire world that get that much traffic. Then think that most suicide attempts on them take place at non-peak hours. The chances of a jumper costing millions of dollars is rare.

Hell if you're going to try to economize it, you'd have to weigh the costs of those services in comparison to money lost in terms of wage earned by the person if they live.
 

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
What's the big deal? This really isn't about suicide. The pusher had to have seen the police set up a cushion and was fed up with how long they were taking. If anything the police should be pissed a citizen intervened in a situation they had control over.

Indeed. The real question is why the safety mat was only partially inflated after five hours :roll:

Hey, you try blowing up one of those fuckers.

LOL

The old guy got pissed off, like so many old guys do, and took matters into his own hands. I think he should be given a free plate of Kung Pao Chicken.
 

alphatarget1

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Originally posted by: grrl

The old guy got pissed off, like so many old guys do, and took matters into his own hands. I think he should be given a free plate of Kung Pao Chicken.

LOL
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: grrl
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
What's the big deal? This really isn't about suicide. The pusher had to have seen the police set up a cushion and was fed up with how long they were taking. If anything the police should be pissed a citizen intervened in a situation they had control over.

Indeed. The real question is why the safety mat was only partially inflated after five hours :roll:

Hey, you try blowing up one of those fuckers.

LOL

The old guy got pissed off, like so many old guys do, and took matters into his own hands. I think he should be given a free plate of Kung Pao Chicken.

:laugh:
 

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bbc got more detail, the old guy was a retired soldier!!! he even volunteered first to the police. even funnier is:

"The bridge has gained a macabre reputation, attracting at least 12 would-be suicide jumpers since the start of April, according to the China Daily report.
None of the 12 has jumped, although each has held up traffic for several hours, it said. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8064867.stm
 

cyclohexane

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Originally posted by: Jetster
bbc got more detail, the old guy was a retired soldier!!! he even volunteered first to the police. even funnier is:

"The bridge has gained a macabre reputation, attracting at least 12 would-be suicide jumpers since the start of April, according to the China Daily report.
None of the 12 has jumped, although each has held up traffic for several hours, it said. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8064867.stm

hilarious. So no one jumped? what a bunch of pussies.
 

isekii

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Jumping off a 26ft bridge isn't gonna kill you most likely.
It'll fuck your joints up though..
 

tyler811

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To all of you that say 26 feet will not kill you. Go grab that video camera, set it up and jump 26 feet onto concrete then get back to us.

As far as suicide, it is most often a person's way of asking for help that does not know how or has too much pride to ask. I have seen what it does to those left behind and it is truly tragic.

Not everyone in the world has an iron clad wil and perfect mental resolve like most everyone here at ATOT. But then not everyone in the world has a perfect credit score, 5,000 square ft house/elegant apt., makes a billionzion $'s a year like most of ATOT or so they say.