The CCP hates any criticism towards them in Western media... and Hollywood agrees with them on that.

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Vic

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It's funny how anyone can voice up for communist overtake of our government - or even socialism... But suggest democracy in the slightest for Chinese people to have rights and not be thrown in internment camp? OHhhhh thats pushing the line too far, how dare we suggest such civilized things in other countries. We just don't understand their culture.... you know... the culture of internment camps?
A little early in the day to be drinking, isn't it?
 

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It's funny how anyone can voice up for communist overtake of our government - or even socialism... But suggest democracy in the slightest for Chinese people to have rights and not be thrown in internment camp? OHhhhh thats pushing the line too far, how dare we suggest such civilized things in other countries. We just don't understand their culture.... you know... the culture of internment camps?

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It's funny how anyone can voice up for communist overtake of our government - or even socialism... But suggest democracy in the slightest for Chinese people to have rights and not be thrown in internment camp? OHhhhh thats pushing the line too far, how dare we suggest such civilized things in other countries. We just don't understand their culture.... you know... the culture of internment camps?

You are apparently confusing socialism and totalitarianism because the latter is what China is. In the past, China may be communist but right now, they are a Capitalist Totalitarianism, the regular people have no rights over there, they can be thrown in jail for anything, and the government will do anything in their power for more money and power. Hell, they are commit genocide on the Uighurs right now but no one is reporting on it. The US is a Democratic Oligarchy, which is slightly better where our people do have more rights than Chinese, but unfortunately the rich is still in full control. Hopefully this election will kick off a democratic revolution where the oligarchs start getting dismantled piece by piece and the regular people have better livelihoods as a result.
 
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Blizzard really stepped in it by banning a Hearthstone player and confiscating his winnings because he had a pro-HK message at the end of a cast. While Blizzard wants to protect its Chinese market it's getting blow back in the US.

Good. Fuck ANY company that wants to censor criticism of a totalitarian regime.

I hope they get so much blowback that they shit their pants with the amount of dollar loses.
 
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I haven't watched SP for a few years, but I did watch that episode. The death metal subplot was pretty hilarious. The garroting of Winnie the Pooh was crazy, though!



Obviously it's hard to top harvesting organs from people while they're still alive. Still, make Trump president-for-life and I imagine we'd be unpleasantly surprised with the things he'd try to get away with.

I'm waiting for Ivanka to be anointed the 1000 year Empress. Then we'll *really* see some action.
 
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It's funny how anyone can voice up for communist overtake of our government - or even socialism... But suggest democracy in the slightest for Chinese people to have rights and not be thrown in internment camp? OHhhhh thats pushing the line too far, how dare we suggest such civilized things in other countries. We just don't understand their culture.... you know... the culture of internment camps?

Just who is it that you think you're yelling at here. It's governments and business that push that line the most.
 
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You are apparently confusing socialism and totalitarianism because the latter is what China is. In the past, China may be communist but right now, they are a Capitalist Totalitarianism, the regular people have no rights over there, they can be thrown in jail for anything, and the government will do anything in their power for more money and power. Hell, they are commit genocide on the Uighurs right now but no one is reporting on it. The US is a Democratic Oligarchy, which is slightly better where our people do have more rights than Chinese, but unfortunately the rich is still in full control. Hopefully this election will kick off a democratic revolution where the oligarchs start getting dismantled piece by piece and the regular people have better livelihoods as a result.

The Uighur are being reported on. Nobody is bothering to pay attention.
 
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How dare we tell another nation how to govern and treat their citizens.

Except Iran.
And Syria.
And North Korea.
And <insert any other country that isn't a major trading partner>

Again, who is it that you're yelling at? Govts? Business? The average citizen of countries other than China?
 
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The Uighur are being reported on. Nobody is bothering to pay attention.

I don't agree with that, its just that has been lost in the chaos of everything else (including the US' ICE concentration camps; which is why shit like that is extra damaging as it just makes us into hypocritical assholes even if they're doing worse). Plus, it sure seems like China's been using other means to try and keep it from hitting critical mass (just like the Hong Kong protests). Not unlike Israel trying to get laws made to ban people from boycotting them due to their treatment of the Palestinians. People are aware, but for many its abstract and/or there's not much you can really do about it. Then add on top of that everything else going on. And in order to spite China you'd have to spite yourself and it makes it tough. Similar thing happened to wrestling fans that hate WWE dealing with Saudi Arabia, even many of the wrestlers refused to participate, and the women simply couldn't, so people might want to support the women wrestlers but its limited in how they can without also helping the WWE.
 

UglyCasanova

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I hope everyone that thinks companies that wave pride flags or virtue signal about any other safe issue gets a wake up call on how full of crap they are.

Another example

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/1...ong-liberation-during-live-blizzard-interview


I wonder if Nike will post a "Believe in something even if it means sacrificing everything" ad supporting the protestors in Hong Kong fighting against oppression. Virtue signal that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/26/nike-cancels-sale-of-undercover-sports-shoes-in-china-report.html

e2fbe000-2d08-4392-bf3b-a14878a0359b-Colin_Kaepernick_Nike.jpg


#staywokeyall
 
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Vic

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Is that right. Then explain their boycott of North Carolina over the bathroom bill in a way consistent with their stated aversion to "political or cultural battles".
Easy, the bathroom bill did not have the support of the majority of the Charlotte Hornets' ticket buyers. Yaknow, those urban "liberal elites" who voted 62% for Hillary?
 

Vic

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I hope everyone that thinks companies that wave pride flags or virtue signal about any other safe issue gets a wake up call on how full of crap they are.

Another example

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/1...ong-liberation-during-live-blizzard-interview


I wonder if Nike will post a "Believe in something even if it means sacrificing everything" ad supporting the protestors in Hong Kong fighting against oppression. Virtue signal that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/26/nike-cancels-sale-of-undercover-sports-shoes-in-china-report.html

e2fbe000-2d08-4392-bf3b-a14878a0359b-Colin_Kaepernick_Nike.jpg


#staywokeyall
We all know that you don't actually care about the protesters in Hong Kong or the Chinese Muslims in prison camps.
We've read too many of your posts condemning protesters and Muslims here in the US. And if you don't care about them here, it's certain you don't care about them there.
 
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Easy, the bathroom bill did not have the support of the majority of the Charlotte Hornets' ticket buyers. Yaknow, those urban "liberal elites" who voted 62% for Hillary?

Right, because political party voting association can be directly attributed to social decisions... Oh wait, that's a complete bullshit correlation you're trying to proclaim. Hell, 35% of Charlotte is Black - and Blacks DISPROPORTIONATELY are against the gay movement as much as you want to tell yourself it's otherwise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_ethnic_minority_communities

But hey - let's just ignore facts and go based on feelings.

Remind me, how good did that woke Gillette commercial do?
 

Vic

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Right, because political party voting association can be directly attributed to social decisions... Oh wait, that's a complete bullshit correlation you're trying to proclaim. Hell, 35% of Charlotte is Black - and Blacks DISPROPORTIONATELY are against the gay movement as much as you want to tell yourself it's otherwise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_ethnic_minority_communities

But hey - let's just ignore facts and go based on feelings.

Remind me, how good did that woke Gillette commercial do?

Remind me why you can't do anything except rant broadbrushed self-serving emotional nonsense.

And please, show us on the doll where that Gillette commercial touched your feels. I was right here arguing that P&G made that commercial as a business decision (like what I'm doing right here with the NBA) when that happened, while you were ranting then that P&G's "betrayal of men" or whatever would bankrupt the company, or whatever.

So yeah, feels. How many of that 35% do you suppose are season ticket holders? Or run a corporation that leases a sky box? Facts.
 

Atreus21

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Easy, the bathroom bill did not have the support of the majority of the Charlotte Hornets' ticket buyers. Yaknow, those urban "liberal elites" who voted 62% for Hillary?

Dont be ridiculous. They didnt cite that reason, but rather specifically said they were pulling out because of the climate created by HB2.


“While we recognize that the NBA cannot choose the law in every city, state, and country in which we do business, we do not believe we can successfully host our All-Star festivities in Charlotte in the climate created by HB2,” the league said. “

Their attempt to claim that they avoid political controversies is patently out of accordance with the facts.
 
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I hope everyone that thinks companies that wave pride flags or virtue signal about any other safe issue gets a wake up call on how full of crap they are.

Another example

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/1...ong-liberation-during-live-blizzard-interview


I wonder if Nike will post a "Believe in something even if it means sacrificing everything" ad supporting the protestors in Hong Kong fighting against oppression. Virtue signal that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/26/nike-cancels-sale-of-undercover-sports-shoes-in-china-report.html

e2fbe000-2d08-4392-bf3b-a14878a0359b-Colin_Kaepernick_Nike.jpg


#staywokeyall

Yes, you care so very much. And we appreciate your care, yes we do.
 

Vic

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Dont be ridiculous. They didnt cite that reason, but rather specifically said they were pulling out because of the climate created by HB2.




Their attempt to claim that they avoid political controversies is patently out of accordance with the facts.

I don't get your point. They're not citing that reason right now either. In fact, that would defeat the purpose. That purpose being to navigate these issues, as they may arise, while strengthening their brand and maximizing revenue. It is not any more complicated than that. Corporations do not have political agendas outside the bottom line. They don't care if you're gay or a social conservative or even both. They just care that you're buying. And if you're not buying for some reason, then they will cater their interests to those who are.
 

UglyCasanova

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We all know that you don't actually care about the protesters in Hong Kong or the Chinese Muslims in prison camps.
We've read too many of your posts condemning protesters and Muslims here in the US. And if you don't care about them here, it's certain you don't care about them there.


I’ve lived a couple months in Hong Kong. Thanks for once again letting me know what my positions are though.