The Catholic Church won't give Joe Biden communion because he supports abortion rights, yet more unmarked graves found in Canada.

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Mai72

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Did you even read the whole post?

Not exactly. I’m a Catholic, and grievously offended by the church’s slow and tortuous reforms. I’m also sick and tired of the fact that so few are actually concerned with the sickening crisis Of child abuse occurring across the nation. Let's just harp on the Catholics and whitewash the rest. The level or stupidity/hypocrisy is stunning.

I was a devout Catholic for many years. What led me out were the priest scandles a decade ago. It wasn't so much the priest actions alone. There are bad people within every organization. It was the response from the pope, which was no response. That started my journey out. I then found out that this has been going on for a very long time in countries like Brazil, and Mexico. Places where vicitms have ZERO rights. The victims who were alledging that they were molested were being targeted by other Catholics. They were being targeted for being liars, and evil. Still, no word from the Pope. Those priest who had commited these henious acts weren't sent to prison, or had to stop being priest. They were simply moved to other churches, and in developing and 3rd world countries like Ghana, Vietnam, and Columbia. That is when I had enough and started to look at other religions.

I have nothing against Catholics, Baptist, Muslims, Buddhist, or Hindus. My negative response is directed to the Church, and the Pope. Most of the people who attend church are nice people who probably aren't even aware that these horrible acts are even taking place. If you look at YouTube, you'd notice that there are many videos on the misdeeds of the Catholic church. The one I'm looking at now is was the Pope aware of the concentration camps during WW2. That is a serious accusation. The Church has a spotty history. Aids in Africa is just one of many. Anyway, this thread wasn't leveled at Catholics per say, but the Church and the people who hold power.
 
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Leeea

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Can you post the full article text here for us non subscribers?

No, that would be a copy right violation. I will post an excerpt though:

Four days after the vote, on June 21, the USCCB released a Q&A excising past mention of Biden, a national policy or a focus on abortion.

“There will be no national policy on withholding Communion from politicians. The intent is to present a clear understanding of the Church’s teachings to bring heightened awareness among the faithful of how the Eucharist can transform our lives and bring us closer to our creator and the life he wants for us,” the Q&A said.
 

desy

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"It really wasn't. It was by definition conservative by them trying to enforce their own conservative beliefs onto them. It was not education, it was explicit attempt to end a culture. Why you and rommel are so keen to go handwaive away the admitted behavior is silly. You really don't need to "well ackshuwally" that history had a LOT of shitty behavior, we're quite aware of that. But your "no big deal, there was worse shit happening" is straight bullshit. Kinda like, "well these aren't mass graves" because well it wasn't all at once so it doesn't count. Despite that just being how many they've uncovered so far at an individual school, while they're searching and finding more. And the behavior has continued (see the missing and murdered indigenous persons, including shit like "starlight tours" that you cannot just go "well that's history" like its behavior from eons ago).

The "mass graves" argument is the same as right wingers bitching about the term concentration camps and people going "well every country did bad stuff and had concentration camps" like people are idiots. We know, and every fucking instance of it should raise ire from people."

I'm not saying there won't be consequences and deservedly so.
All I am is saying you are judging their morality with yours, and yes there are degrees of crimes thats why we have murder second degree murder manslaughter Man two. you can't, because you didn't live their life from a 150 yrs ago to understand why, because you can never get that perspective back. your concept of right and wrong is so markedly different. They only estimate 4000 as low it will be at least 2 or 3 times that. The history of the world is damn ugly, save your energy for current ongoing crimes like China's
 

pmv

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The Catholic Church has been doing that shit everywhere it's been able to get away with doing it. There's mass children's graves dug and filled by the Catholic Church all the world round.

The Canadian case may be quite an extreme one, because of the particular angle of attempting to forcibly 'Canadianize' First Nations children. Doesn't surprise me that the Catholic church was involved in the mechanics of it though - brutal mistreatment of children in schools seems to be one of their specialist subjects.
 

kage69

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I wish they just stick to sodomizing alter boys.


"Abstinence makes the church grow fondlers."

I wish they'd stop victimizing people in general, then not defend the ones guilty of criminal behavior. Trying to influence domestic policy from the pulpit?

The Catholic church should no longer be tax exempt. Same for all the evangelical cults doing their best to destroy American democracy. These assholes want to mouth off like everyone else? Fine. They can pay taxes like everyone else too then.