The Case for Bad Coffee

Carson Dyle

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Standing at my kitchen counter, I measure out two teaspoons of Maxwell House instant coffee into my favorite mug, pour in 12 ounces of hot water from a tea kettle, and stir for a moment. I look toward the automatic drip maker to my left and feel a pang of sympathy for its cold carafe that once gurgled and steamed each morning with the best coffee money could buy. On top of the refrigerator, my old friend the French press has gathered dust. When I notice a dead housefly decomposing inside it, I wonder what the hell has happened to me.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2015/10/the-case-for-bad-coffee.html

What happened? He grew up.
 

Crono

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Sounds like a hipster who became disillusioned after overinvesting in a hobby, and now is looking to be "different". And I'm not using "hipster" as an insult, he genuinely qualifies based on his post.

There's nothing inherently noble, commendable, or good about liking bad coffee... or liking good coffee for that matter. I love coffee. Period. Not going to discourage anyone from liking cheap coffee or expensive coffee. If you want to spend no time on coffee, great. Nothing wrong with just getting a quick and cheap cup of joe. If you want to throw yourself into the deep end with special equipment and brewing techniques, good for you.

Made some excellent coffee today. Costa Rica Dota. $9.99 a lb. Took 8 minutes to grind beans while electric kettle was going, steep grounds in French press, and pour into a cup. Did that while listening to a podcast. Not much time or money invested in a delicious cup of coffee, and I don't envision myself becoming weary of it.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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He woke up and decided he was a poseur. The blog has less to do with coffee than it does with knowing himself.
 
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I am also sure that his love affair with coffee was absolutely the reason he didn't become a doctor or a lawyer like his friends.
 

SirStev0

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To be honest, its the same way I am starting to feel about beer.. I am kind of getting sick of the microbrews and their Hop-Abortion #742 or Generic Pumpkin (or seasonal fruit) #347.. They all just kind of tasty shitty. And boring. Like overdone CGI in shitty movies. (all movies these days).

Ever notice that none of the "microbrews" make a solid pilsner or a british special bitters?
You know why? Because making a GREAT simple beer is fucking hard. It can't have a shitty metallic taste or be off on the mix.
They can't just hop or fruit the shit out of whatever tasteless grog they make.
Try some real British bitters. Its amazing how complex a simple beer can be .. yet still taste great.

Everyone wants to be their own hipster little beautiful butterfly and show how unique they are by defining themselves with their special beer or their coffee.
And if you like an "imperial" anything... you are fucking lying, you hipster fuck.

Fuck that. Give me a 12 rack of a Dad beer in a can. I'll enjoy it way more.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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dude should just commit seppuku cuz he has clearly given up on life
 

waggy

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To be honest, its the same way I am starting to feel about beer.. I am kind of getting sick of the microbrews and their Hop-Abortion #742 or Generic Pumpkin (or seasonal fruit) #347.. They all just kind of tasty shitty. And boring. Like overdone CGI in shitty movies. (all movies these days).

Ever notice that none of the "microbrews" make a solid pilsner or a british special bitters?
You know why? Because making a GREAT simple beer is fucking hard. It can't have a shitty metallic taste or be off on the mix.
They can't just hop or fruit the shit out of whatever tasteless grog they make.
Try some real British bitters. Its amazing how complex a simple beer can be .. yet still taste great.

Everyone wants to be their own hipster little beautiful butterfly and show how unique they are by defining themselves with their special beer or their coffee.
And if you like an "imperial" anything... you are fucking lying, you hipster fuck.

Fuck that. Give me a 12 rack of a Dad beer in a can. I'll enjoy it way more.

meh. I have found i quite drinking cheap shitty beer. I would rather have 2-3 ones that i really enjoy then a 12 pack of shit.
 

SirStev0

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meh. I have found i quite drinking cheap shitty beer. I would rather have 2-3 ones that i really enjoy then a 12 pack of shit.

I didn't say shit. I said good solid beer. Old Style in Chicago. Lion's Head and Yuengling (Premium, not Lager) in Eastern PA. Old German in Pittsburgh.

Every city or area has a solid local beer if you look. And not one of these Cartoon Labeled Hop-Rape Microbrews.

Its become a hipster joke.. but PBR won an international blue ribbon at one point.. When it was a solid good beer of the people.. I am sure its been mass produced to a shell of its former self.. just like Coors/Miller/Bud, but at one point it was likely a solid beer.

There are a bunch of those beers that have been produced since forever and are kept alive and in business by our granddad's.
Drink those. Try them. You'll be amazed.
 

bbhaag

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I get it. I mix up a Starbucks Via instant iced coffee every morning. A little creamer, add some ice and you get a nice morning kick. I work 50 hours a week in the off season 85 in the on. My wife works 45 hours a week. We got two boys ages 8 and 13 who are into all sorts of activities.

I'll be honest the last thing on my mind is the purity of my god damn coffee.
 

HTFOff

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I've never willingly had instant coffee. It's not that i'm a coffee snob, it's just that filling a container with water, scooping grinds in to a filter and pressing a button is an easy feat. Better yet, open keurig, place kcup, close keurig, press a button. Voila.
 

angminas

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To be honest, its the same way I am starting to feel about beer.. I am kind of getting sick of the microbrews and their Hop-Abortion #742 or Generic Pumpkin (or seasonal fruit) #347.. They all just kind of tasty shitty. And boring. Like overdone CGI in shitty movies. (all movies these days).

Ever notice that none of the "microbrews" make a solid pilsner or a british special bitters?
You know why? Because making a GREAT simple beer is fucking hard. It can't have a shitty metallic taste or be off on the mix.
They can't just hop or fruit the shit out of whatever tasteless grog they make.
Try some real British bitters. Its amazing how complex a simple beer can be .. yet still taste great.

Everyone wants to be their own hipster little beautiful butterfly and show how unique they are by defining themselves with their special beer or their coffee.
And if you like an "imperial" anything... you are fucking lying, you hipster fuck.

Fuck that. Give me a 12 rack of a Dad beer in a can. I'll enjoy it way more.

Agree, except with the bolded part. Why?

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This stuff is delicious.
 
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He woke up and decided he was a poseur. The blog has less to do with coffee than it does with knowing himself.
As people age priorities change. In the overall scheme of things a great cup of coffee rates on the low end of the spectrum, imo. As a former coffee snob though I can understand why some would respectfully, or disrespectfully, disagree with that belief.
 

crashtech

Lifer
Jan 4, 2013
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Some people just end up going from one extreme to the other. It's not hard to make a half decent cup of coffee. I'd rather keep a bottle of caffeine pills handy then drink shitty instant. Drink water if you can't be bothered.
 

slayer202

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Made some excellent coffee today. Costa Rica Dota. $9.99 a lb. Took 8 minutes to grind beans while electric kettle was going, steep grounds in French press, and pour into a cup. Did that while listening to a podcast. Not much time or money invested in a delicious cup of coffee, and I don't envision myself becoming weary of it.

haha I hope you know how close to parody this sounds
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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There's nothing inherently noble, commendable, or good about liking bad coffee... or liking good coffee for that matter. I love coffee. Period. Not going to discourage anyone from liking cheap coffee or expensive coffee. If you want to spend no time on coffee, great. Nothing wrong with just getting a quick and cheap cup of joe. If you want to throw yourself into the deep end with special equipment and brewing techniques, good for you.

This. I like coffee starting from 'competent' on up, and sometimes make instant when I want something quick, with no effort. My every day coffee is Wegmans French roast, made in an electroperc. It won't win awards, but it's decent coffee, at a decent price. If I want something better, I use my moka pot, or French press with whatever coffee caught my eye in the store.
 

gururu2

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I tried my dad's instant folgers for a few days and got physically sick and fatigued. I had to stop coffee for a few weeks before going back to my ground coffee bags in the freezer.

I got nothing against it, in fact I admire those that can drink it for the lift.
 
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He measures his coffee? What a snob. :colbert:



I used to drink Cafe Bustelo, then I realized it tastes like crap. People's tastes improve as they age, not the other way around.

Dude, here are my choices:

Cafe Bustelo Espresso..... ~$3 for a full can
Illy Espresso.... $12-$15 for a can that is even slightly smaller a normal can.


Mind boggling. 5x the price... or $3.... It just doesn't make financial sense for anyone with half a brain. Luckily we are on Illy right now, but for some reason they had some dented cans that were on clearance for $5, I gobbled up all 4 cans they had :D But that was luck.

Also, that's only for the wife. I say fuck the whole brewing shit and pop a 200mg caffeine pill. Eliminates the bullshit of what everyone is ultimately looking for.
 

evident

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Apr 5, 2005
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why the fuck do people like this always take shit to some extreme level? why cant they realize there's some middle ground somewhere? or do they just write articles like this to generate a response? reading this article really pissed me off for some reason. I think it was his hipster tone or just his general sounding like a whining bitch.

how about decent quality beans from costco, and a good drip machine? takes less time then making single cup pour over or french press, the beans don't cost as much, but flavor is still exponentially better than maxwell house garbage. That's what I do during the weekdays when i don't feel like wasting time in the morning. on more leisurely weekends though, ill whip out my 100% kona and do a single pour over, or french press
 
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