The buddhist statues destroyed by radical muslims

[raildogg]

Wasn't this an even worse atrocity than the cartoons about Muhammed? This was offensive to buddhists all over the world, yet I didn't find anyone commiting acts of violence over this.

This was a greater tragedy. It showed how intolerant radical Islam can be.

Here is a link to read up on.

link

some pics

By the way, I believe there are plans to rebuild these statues. Not sure where the funding will come from, but if people can donate, it will be a great thing. It's a piece of human history.

 

[ntdz]

Hell, it offended me and I'm not Buddhist.

 

[judasmachine]

It outraged me too. But isn't violence absent in the Buddhist lexicon?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
It outraged me too. But isn't violence absent in the Buddhist lexicon?

Indeed, that's why you don't find a lot of Buddhists killing people in the name of their religion. Sensible attitude if you ask me.

 

[EagleKeeper]

violence may be; however the issue becomes the intolerance of Islam or at leastthe way some choose to present it to the world.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
violence may be; however the issue becomes the intolerance of Islam or at leastthe way some choose to present it to the world.

Let's not forget that most religions (with the possible exception of Buddhism) actually have intolerance of other beliefs as a rather fundamental part of their faith. The difference is that in many parts of the world, we have moved past strictly interpreting everything in our religious faiths. The Middle East, however, is behind much of the rest of the world in ways that have nothing to do with religion. Many of the people there present their religion in the same way other religions have been presented in the past, nothing very different about their particular religion.

I guess my point is that I think it's more about the people than the religion...and I think religious people who DON'T do stuff like this are more rising above their religious roots than anything else.

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: judasmachine
It outraged me too. But isn't violence absent in the Buddhist lexicon?

Indeed, that's why you don't find a lot of Buddhists killing people in the name of their religion. Sensible attitude if you ask me.

yea..now if the bible based religions would get a clue that that whole not killing thing includes not killing people in other countries AND your own

 

[Looney]

Good point! The Muslim world goes apesh1t over some cartoons in a land that i would bet very few muslims knew about in the first place... and yet they have no problem with the destruction of thousands year old statues.

 

[MedicalEntropy]

Buddhism wasn't always "peaceful". It had its "Crusaders". Research on the words "Sohei" and "Yamabushi". Of course it wasn't really against another religion, but anyways...

 

[Cerb]

One more awe-inspiring piece of history destroyed by scum. If the history is gone, at least no one will have to be paid to rewrite it cleverly...

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Cerb
One more awe-inspiring piece of history destroyed by scum. If the history is gone, at least no one will have to be paid to rewrite it cleverly...

Apparently the Muslims don't like pictures of anybodys religious prophets.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: MedicalEntropy
Buddhism wasn't always "peaceful". It had its "Crusaders". Research on the words "Sohei" and "Yamabushi". Of course it wasn't really against another religion, but anyways...

Given Buddha's philosophy they weren't Buddhists, only pretending they were. Charlatons would be the best description.

 

[jpeyton]

YARIBT (Yet Another Raildogg Islam Bashing Thread)

Oh dear.

It showed how intolerant radical Islam can be.

And we all know how the Taliban are Islam's spokespeople :roll:

Buddhist Temples Are Landmarks In The Most Populous Islamic Nation On Earth? Care to explain that away guys?

[John Stossel]Give me a break.[/John Stossel]

 

[Proletariat]

Despicable.

 

[AmerDoux]

For those of you who did not read all the way thru the first link:

"ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, March 12 (UPI) -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, in Pakistan on a tour of the region, expressed outrage Sunday over the demolition of 1,500 year-old Buddha statues by Afghanistan's Taliban rulers.

Annan called the destruction of two ancient Buddhist statues in central Afghanistan as "a disservice to both Afghanistan and Islam."

The Taliban rulers, he said, were also harming themselves by indulging in such activities, the British Broadcasting Corp. reported.

Reports from Afghanistan said the demolition of the ancient monuments near Bamiyan - one thought to be the tallest of its kind in the world - was overseen by the Taliban's defense minister.

The larger, 53-meter (175-feet) statue was reduced to rubble on Thursday, and the 38-meter (120-feet) statue was destroyed the following day.

"I think no one will accept" the Taliban's argument that Islam allowed them to destroy the Buddhist statues, Annan told reporters after the meeting, adding that the demolition would also harm fundraising appeals for aid for the Afghan people. Countries with a large Buddhist population -- such as Japan, Sri Lanka and Thailand -- were more passionate in their appeals to save the relics.

Islamic Iran offered to buy the relics "for safe custody" with a promise to return them whenever the Afghans wanted. The Taliban's closest ally, Pakistan, sent a high-level delegation to convince the Taliban to change their mind.

A delegation also came from the world's largest Muslim body, the Organization of the Islamic Conference on Saturday to help protect the statues but failed to prevent the destruction."


From the article the OP posted, it appears many Islamic leaders and nations spoke out against the destruction of the artifacts. What the Taliban did is not representative of Islam as a whole.

 

[raildogg]

This is why New York Times is the most hypocritical newspaper in the world. Cartoons of Mary in dung, that is fine and they publish it. Same goes for Jesus. But cartoons of Muhammed? Oh no, never. I guess they are supportive of the violence by the muslim mobs.

 

[slash196]

Buddhists don't really get too hung up on material things.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
YARIBT (Yet Another Raildogg Islam Bashing Thread)

Oh dear.

It showed how intolerant radical Islam can be.

And we all know how the Taliban are Islam's spokespeople :roll:

Buddhist Temples Are Landmarks In The Most Populous Islamic Nation On Earth? Care to explain that away guys?

[John Stossel]Give me a break.[/John Stossel]

Oh look, here he comes.

It is not bashing islam, you tolerant person you. I have never bashed Islam. I never bash religion, yet people like you and the NY Times bash christianity night and day. Hypocrits, much?

This bunch of muslims destroyed a buddhist statue, it doesn't mean all muslims feel that way. It just shows you that buddhists around the world were not destroying embassies. Even you will have noticed that.

There are sikh and hindu sites in Pakistan and they are not destroyed, what is your point?

If Christians acted this way, I'm sure the NY Times and people like you would get all fired up. Yup, bash the American middle class.

AmerDoux, yes, that is why I linked those two websites so people can read.

Of course it is not, noone is saying it is. I'm just comparing two events. Two events that were handled very differently by two groups of people. I guess buddhism isn't blended into politics as much as Islam is. That is the conclusion you would get if you only looked at the surface. I want to look beneath the surface.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: raildogg
This is why New York Times is the most hypocritical newspaper in the world. Cartoons of Mary in dung, that is fine and they publish it. Same goes for Jesus. But cartoons of Muhammed? Oh no, never. I guess they are supportive of the violence by the muslim mobs.

Yep, that must be it :roll:

What the...I thought we were talking about Buddhist temples...more cartoon talk? I guess your argument about the temples was thoroughly deflated by logic.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: raildogg
This is why New York Times is the most hypocritical newspaper in the world. Cartoons of Mary in dung, that is fine and they publish it. Same goes for Jesus. But cartoons of Muhammed? Oh no, never. I guess they are supportive of the violence by the muslim mobs.

Yep, that must be it :roll:

What the...I thought we were talking about Buddhist temples...more cartoon talk? I guess your argument about the temples was thoroughly deflated by logic.

It was a comparision of two events. Can you handle that?

Or is your mind already made up about who is innocent and guilty?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: raildogg
This bunch of muslims destroyed a buddhist statue, it doesn't mean all muslims feel that way. It just shows you that buddhists around the world were not destroying embassies. Even you will have noticed that.

There are sikh and hindu sites in Pakistan and they are not destroyed, what is your point?

If you're going to bring up the same tired arguments involving the words:

muslim
embassy
protest
islam

You would be better off burying it deep in the 292783 threads already created on the subject.

Kthxbye.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: raildogg
This bunch of muslims destroyed a buddhist statue, it doesn't mean all muslims feel that way. It just shows you that buddhists around the world were not destroying embassies. Even you will have noticed that.

There are sikh and hindu sites in Pakistan and they are not destroyed, what is your point?

If you're going to bring up the same tired arguments involving the words:

muslim
embassy
protest
islam

You would be better off burying it deep in the 292783 threads already created on the subject.

Kthxbye.

Well then get the hell out and visit the other 292783 threads instead of trolling.

And, you seem to have reading problems since I specifically used the word radical muslim instead of muslim. I differentiate between faithful followers and extremists, unlike some people here.

 

[TuxDave]

how sad to see such historic monuments destroyed.

 

[CanOWorms]

There was a lot of outrage all around the world when the statues were destroyed, including from Muslim-majority countries. I remember Egypt tried to persuade the Taliban from destroying the Buddha statues.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: jpeyton
YARIBT (Yet Another Raildogg Islam Bashing Thread)

Oh dear.

It showed how intolerant radical Islam can be.

And we all know how the Taliban are Islam's spokespeople :roll:

Buddhist Temples Are Landmarks In The Most Populous Islamic Nation On Earth? Care to explain that away guys?

[John Stossel]Give me a break.[/John Stossel]

Oh look, here he comes.

It is not bashing islam, you tolerant person you. I have never bashed Islam. I never bash religion, yet people like you and the NY Times bash christianity night and day. Hypocrits, much?

This bunch of muslims destroyed a buddhist statue, it doesn't mean all muslims feel that way. It just shows you that buddhists around the world were not destroying embassies. Even you will have noticed that.

There are sikh and hindu sites in Pakistan and they are not destroyed, what is your point?

If Christians acted this way, I'm sure the NY Times and people like you would get all fired up. Yup, bash the American middle class.

AmerDoux, yes, that is why I linked those two websites so people can read.

Of course it is not, noone is saying it is. I'm just comparing two events. Two events that were handled very differently by two groups of people. I guess buddhism isn't blended into politics as much as Islam is. That is the conclusion you would get if you only looked at the surface. I want to look beneath the surface.

Pakistan doing nothing to restore Sikh, Hindu sites in Pakistan