Originally posted by: Hitman32
Can God create a stone that he cannot throw?
Dumbest most idiotic argument ever. :|
Can God stop being God? There's your answer.
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Another thing that Jesus preached, from what I do remember...
Whenever he preached, he generally preached integration of faith into one's daily life (beyond the obvious religious obligations and styles of thought) - he did nothing to advocate active (governmental) revolution; he preached a mentally and spiritually satisfying faith with practical applications.
When he spoke of slaves at all, I got the impression that he was telling them to do their work so that their masters would see the "glory of god" through them; he spoke nothing of the moral correctness of their situation.
This is actually correct.
What Jesus taught is that there is no condition on earth, it being a brief temporary phase of all eternity, that was worth losing your soul for.
He did not teach people to be cows either. He taught that everyone should treat others as they would wish to be treated and that people should lead by example, not by force. One aspect that Jesus seemed very much aware of was that people needed to learn to control their negative and violent emotions. In a world where everyone treats each other as they would be treated, slavery would be lifted forever and the final revolution would be one of absolute peace.
btw, everyone on the internet has access to the Bible:
Link
Please remember that the Israelites themselves had been slaves and that they, as a culture, were generally opposed to slavery when compared to the other cultures that surrounded them.
btw, this is the "in"famous passage from the Bible that some people use to claim that it supports slavery:
Leviticus 25:38-55
38 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, to give you the land of Canaan, and to be your God.
39 And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee; thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant:
40 But as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, he shall be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubile*.
41 And then shall he depart from thee, both he and his children with him, and shall return unto his own family, and unto the possession of his fathers shall he return.
42 For they are my servants, which I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: they shall not be sold as bondmen.
43 Thou shalt not rule over him with rigour; but shalt fear thy God.
44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.
47 And if a sojourner or stranger wax rich by thee, and thy brother that dwelleth by him wax poor, and sell himself unto the stranger or sojourner by thee, or to the stock of the stranger's family:
48 After that he is sold he may be redeemed again; one of his brethren may redeem him:
49 Either his uncle, or his uncle's son, may redeem him, or any that is nigh of kin unto him of his family may redeem him; or if he be able, he may redeem himself.
50 And he shall reckon with him that bought him from the year that he was sold to him unto the year of jubile: and the price of his sale shall be according unto the number of years, according to the time of an hired servant shall it be with him.
51 If there be yet many years behind, according unto them he shall give again the price of his redemption out of the money that he was bought for.
52 And if there remain but few years unto the year of jubile, then he shall count with him, and according unto his years shall he give him again the price of his redemption.
53 And as a yearly hired servant shall he be with him: and the other shall not rule with rigour over him in thy sight.
54 And if he be not redeemed in these years, then he shall go out in the year of jubile, both he, and his children with him.
55 For unto me the children of Israel are servants; they are my servants whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
* every 50th year in Israel, all debts were cancelled and all slaves were freed, edit: this was the year of jubile (pronouced like jubilee)
