The best way to cool a QX9770 Yorkfield?

[sandygws]

Hi everyone,

This is my first post and I'd like to ask for some advice.

I'm building my first system based on an Asus P5E3 Premium WiFi and the Quad Core QX9770.

I initially decided to cool the Yorkfield with a Zalman Reserator XT, but I'm sure there are plenty of other options.

Can you folks please let me know how you would cool this CPU.

Thank you.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: sandygws
Hi everyone,

This is my first post and I'd like to ask for some advice.

I'm building my first system based on an Asus P5E3 Premium WiFi and the Quad Core QX9770.

I initially decided to cool the Yorkfield with a Zalman Reserator XT, but I'm sure there are plenty of other options.

Can you folks please let me know how you would cool this CPU.

Thank you.

budget?

zalman kinda blows in h2o cooling.

If your budget is large enough maybe phase?

 

[sandygws]

Thanks for the reply aigomorla,

Budget is unlimited. I just want to cool the CPU as efficiently - and quietly - as possible.

 

[CurseTheSky]

Unlimited is good. Low noise rules phase out, AFAIK.

As long as you're happy with putting it together yourself:
Apogee GTX - Copper Top OR D-tek Fuzion V2 (aigomorla can probably suggest the best for your situation)
+
Thermochill PA120.3
+
Swiftech MCP655 Pump
+
Swiftech Microres Reservoir
+
Masterkleer 7/16 ID, 5/8 OD tubing

That, of course, depends on what you can fit in your current case. Watercooling gets bulky FAST, especially in a midtower (or smaller...)

Oh yeah, almost forgot...

+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813131276

for me too, since your budget is unlimited and the 680i's make me want to cry? 😛

Hope that helps.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: sandygws
Thanks for the reply aigomorla,

Budget is unlimited. I just want to cool the CPU as efficiently - and quietly - as possible.

You want to pm this guy.

If he doesnt respond, go on xtremesystems.org/forums

n00b 0f l337

His name is NOL, real name ADAM. By far the most knowledged in high end phase cooling. The person i always goto first when having a question on sub ambient cooling. 😀

Then you want to go here and do some research on what phase cooling is:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f.../forumdisplay.php?f=80

Tell him you want him to build your custom single stage phase unit. Tell him you want to drop a QX9770 so you need it tuned for a quadcore. Then you should continue your research on vapor phase, while nol is building your unit.

Tell him what case, and how you want to fit it.

He will give you a price, and most likely an awesome cooling unit which will probably give you -40C yes negative, on that QX9770 overclocked and loaded.

There will be no better solution for the cpu. Unless your budget is exponential. Yes im not kidding, single stage to double stage is very expensive.

For the GPU, tell us how much the budget you have left, and i'll pick out a nice h2o unit to finish on that end.

If its unlimited, then i need card config, im guessing HD3870 X2's on quadfire? So 2 EK HD blocks with a PA120.3 and a DDC-3.2 with xspc restop should keep those in check fine.

 

[IanY]

We can design you one of our classic insane water cooling loops 😀

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: IanY
We can design you one of our classic insane water cooling loops 😀

AHAHAHAHAHA..

Have CD build him another cooling tower?

No seriously tho, you cant topple phase on cpu for best cooling.

And gpu's you can phase that as well, however it wont yield greater oc unless you vmod a little, so your best option is water on those.

 

[PCTC2]

I disappear for six weeks because all of my computers die and this is what I come back to? Things just don't change. Nice, Aigo.

Anyways, IF you want to go water, just look up Aigo's loop. A nice RD-30 pump is a nice addition to CursetheSky's loop. 😛

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: PCTC2
I disappear for six weeks because all of my computers die and this is what I come back to? Things just don't change. Nice, Aigo.

Anyways, IF you want to go water, just look up Aigo's loop. A nice RD-30 pump is a nice addition to CursetheSky's loop. 😛

nah... with that kind of eq, it means the op's prepared to dish some heavy cash on cooling.

Theres only one way to go and thats phase. :T

If phase is too much, then tell us your budget and we'll work from there. :T

 

[CurseTheSky]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: PCTC2
I disappear for six weeks because all of my computers die and this is what I come back to? Things just don't change. Nice, Aigo.

Anyways, IF you want to go water, just look up Aigo's loop. A nice RD-30 pump is a nice addition to CursetheSky's loop. 😛

nah... with that kind of eq, it means the op's prepared to dish some heavy cash on cooling.

Theres only one way to go and thats phase. :T

If phase is too much, then tell us your budget and we'll work from there. :T

I was under the impression that all phase units are noisy (like a small refridgerator). However, it is hard to beat phase cooling, unless you feel like hiring someone to dump LN2 or DICE down a tube all day.

Budget is unlimited. I just want to cool the CPU as efficiently - and quietly - as possible.

At $204, the RD 30 would definately be a better choice than the MCP655. There was some reason I didn't use it (aside from the price - maybe it was too large for my case? I don't remember), so I didn't remember it when I was making the suggestion. How's the noise on those as well?

Now that I think about it, if my budget was unlimited, I would:
1 - Buy one of these
2 - Mount the motherboard somewhere in the front grill / radiator area
3 - Run an independant liquid loop with a huge heatercore for a radiator
4 - Mount a monitor, keyboard, and mouse inside the passenger compartment
5 - Very, very, VERY rarely step into my house ever again

😛

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

I don't mean to derail the thread, but I have a question about something mentioned. What kind of performance differences are there in using a RD 30 compared to a Swiftech MCP655? I'm only going to be cooling two processors...

Anyway, I just thought I'd ask. This is a great thread so far.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I don't mean to derail the thread, but I have a question about something mentioned. What kind of performance differences are there in using a RD 30 compared to a Swiftech MCP655? I'm only going to be cooling two processors...

Anyway, I just thought I'd ask. This is a great thread so far.

dependant on your system and blocks your running.

accelerators and the RD-30 is the king.

Use a d-tek fusion without nozzles or accelerators, the block tops out at setting 3-4 on the 655.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
I don't mean to derail the thread, but I have a question about something mentioned. What kind of performance differences are there in using a RD 30 compared to a Swiftech MCP655? I'm only going to be cooling two processors...

Anyway, I just thought I'd ask. This is a great thread so far.

dependant on your system and blocks your running.

accelerators and the RD-30 is the king.

Use a d-tek fusion without nozzles or accelerators, the block tops out at setting 3-4 on the 655.

Blocks will be D-Tek Fuzion (don't know enough about the Fuzion2's yet to make that determination). I'm cooling two Xeon E5405 processors in a single loop with wye connections.
Radiator looks like it will be the Thermochill PA120.3 with Akasa Amber fans on it.
No price restrictions (not going peltier or above though), and I have virtually no space restrictions in my case to work with.

EDIT: I'm not looking for stellar performance, as I'm not OCing this rig either. Just keep the temps good as the thing crunches on. Stability and dependability--so if one pump will outlast another by far, then I'll get it over the other.

 

[aigomorla]

Well im assuming your going after silence? Have you finalized your parts?

Might i recomend the new MPC TDX by DD.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
Well im assuming your going after silence? Have you finalized your parts?

Might i recomend the new MPC TDX by DD.

Silence instead of performance, yes, in that I want to keep the system at stock and run it as quite as possible with keeping it stable. But I'm not trying to do a silent rig, mind you.

I thought it might be time to revisit the previous parts I had decided on, as quite a few things have came out. Guess I should be making a new thread at this point. 😱

 

[Tim]

Tell him you want him to build your custom single stage phase unit.

Aigo, how much would something like this cost roughly? Just a ball-park figure out of curiosity.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: theplaidfad

Tell him you want him to build your custom single stage phase unit.

Aigo, how much would something like this cost roughly? Just a ball-park figure out of curiosity.

mmm... well i dont know.

Depends on what compressor you chose, also how loud you want the system.

You can never ball park a custom unless your the builder. :T

 

[Tim]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: theplaidfad

Tell him you want him to build your custom single stage phase unit.

Aigo, how much would something like this cost roughly? Just a ball-park figure out of curiosity.

mmm... well i dont know.

Depends on what compressor you chose, also how loud you want the system.

You can never ball park a custom unless your the builder. :T

Unacceptable answer! Feel my wrath?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: theplaidfad

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: theplaidfad

Tell him you want him to build your custom single stage phase unit.

Aigo, how much would something like this cost roughly? Just a ball-park figure out of curiosity.

mmm... well i dont know.

Depends on what compressor you chose, also how loud you want the system.

You can never ball park a custom unless your the builder. :T

Unacceptable answer! Feel my wrath?

LOL phase isnt my territory.

i have no idea how much a compressor from dannon floss cost.

I have no idea how much the shell and gas cost as well.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: sandygws
Hi everyone,

This is my first post and I'd like to ask for some advice.

I'm building my first system based on an Asus P5E3 Premium WiFi and the Quad Core QX9770.

I initially decided to cool the Yorkfield with a Zalman Reserator XT, but I'm sure there are plenty of other options.

Can you folks please let me know how you would cool this CPU.

Thank you.

The choices being air or water, water would be the way to go for a stable, overclocked machine. If you don't want the danger and excitment of spec'ing a custom water-cooler the XT would be a great choice. It reviews quite well and the testimonials I've seen are sterling. One aspect of the custom route you should consider well before you chose is the case you're going to use. I popped for a case that was pre-drilled for the sort of rad I have and this allowed me to finally mount a rad the way its manafacturer recommends.

What a joy! 🙂

Also, spend some time versing yourself in how water works and the options that are available. In the end, let them choices be yours.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

LOL phase isnt my territory.

i have no idea how much a compressor from dannon floss cost.

I have no idea how much the shell and gas cost as well.

Is that a supplier or is the compressor a Danfoss?

Grunert makes a good cold plate that could cool a ship. Hmmm...

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior
If you don't want the danger and excitment of spec'ing a custom water-cooler the XT would be a great choice.

Thats if he keeps to the setup only HW.

BTW welcome back. 😀

Notice anything different with my name? 😀

*showing off my Mod Suit* heheh....

HW is a pal of mine from way back. He actually helped me out on some advance stuff back when i was still in the learning/discovery phase. 😀


Anyhow the zalman has alu parts so your limited to zalman and innovotek, unless you want to expose yourself to danger instead of saving yourself from one. :T

Google Galvanized Corrosion for more info.

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: aigomorla

LOL phase isnt my territory.

i have no idea how much a compressor from dannon floss cost.

I have no idea how much the shell and gas cost as well.

Is that a supplier or is the compressor a Danfoss?

Grunert makes a good cold plate that could cool a ship. Hmmm...

LOL as i said its not my territory.

And your correct its danfoss. To my understanding i believe those are the best compressors cuz thats what jinu and Nol uses.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: HardWarrior
If you don't want the danger and excitment of spec'ing a custom water-cooler the XT would be a great choice.

Thats if he keeps to the setup only HW.

BTW welcome back. 😀

Notice anything different with my name? 😀

*showing off my Mod Suit* heheh....

HW is a pal of mine from way back. He actually helped me out on some advance stuff back when i was still in the learning/discovery phase. 😀


Anyhow the zalman has alu parts so your limited to zalman and innovotek, unless you want to expose yourself to danger instead of saving yourself from one. :T

Google Galvanized Corrosion for more info.

I can't speak for the OP's preferences, but I never plan to carry parts from a current loop to the next, with the exception of pumps, and even those I'm prepared to replace if something different strikes my fancy. 😉

It's good to be back morla, almost as good as seeing how your expertise has been rewarded. Well done! 😀

That's a very kind thing to say, morla. Thank you!

Galvanic corrosion? Yup, the bane of unweary water-coolers everywhere! 🙂 In mixed metal loops, without a corrosion inhibitor, the denser metal steals metal ions from the lighter metal making it brittle. The process also creates a mild electric field in your coolant and a great deal of suction too.