The Best of 2011 Game Discussion

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Lifer
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This wonderful year is almost over folks, and I figured it's about time we sit down like gentlemen, smoke a cigars with our favorite Scotch...and chat.

We've seen some amazing releases along with some disappointments, and now is your chance to share it with the group. Remember, this is your opportunity to express your honest opinions! :)


Here is the format:

1) Top 3 favorite games
2) Most disappointing
3) Biggest surprise
4) Favorite indi-game
5) Most overrated
6) Most underrated




I'll go first: (Disclaimer: I've not played Skyward Sword yet)

1) Skyrim, Portal 2 & Deus Ex: Human Revolution
2) Rage
3) Dead Island
4) The Binding of Issac
5) Gears of War 3
6) Saint's Row The Third (EVERYONE should be playing this game!)


Now it's your turn...
 

Kev

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Dec 17, 2001
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Have not played many games this year, I will say:
Top 3: Arkham City, Portal 2, MW3 (a waaaaay distant 3rd)
Most disappointing: Battlefield 3
 

Rage187

Lifer
Dec 30, 2000
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Top 3:

1. Skyrim
2. Saint Row 3
3. Arkham City

most disappointing and most over rated was MW3
 

lokiju

Lifer
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1) Top 3 favorite games
2) Most disappointing
3) Biggest surprise
4) Favorite indi-game
5) Most overrated
6) Most underrated


1) Black Ops, Portal 2 & MW3
2) God of War 1 & 2 (new to me). Was convinced how great they were. Did not care for them.
3) Blops - I never got into online gaming of any kind before being convinced to get Blops earlier this year.
4) Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP (iOS game) Really shows what can be done with touchscreen games.
5) Killzone 3. Just couldn't get into it or care enough to.
6) Out of what I played, probably Portal 2. I don't play a ton of games a year but this is one game where I tried telling a lot of friends how much fun it was an so many just didn't seem to have any interest in even giving it a try.
 

Todd33

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Oct 16, 2003
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1) Top 3 favorite games

Dark Souls, infamous 2, Portal 2

2) Most disappointing

Skyrim, tons of hype, high reviews and no substance.

3) Biggest surprise

Resistance 3 campaign, very good.

4) Favorite indi-game

No idea

5) Most overrated

Skyrim

6) Most underrated

Resistance 3
 

dougp

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May 3, 2002
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1) Top 3 favorite games

Dark Souls, infamous 2, Portal 2

2) Most disappointing

Skyrim, tons of hype, high reviews and no substance.


3) Biggest surprise

Resistance 3 campaign, very good.

4) Favorite indi-game

No idea

5) Most overrated

Skyrim

6) Most underrated

Resistance 3

I don't understand this ... what did you not like about it? No substance? And the hype was nothing like quite a few other games.
 

Todd33

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Oct 16, 2003
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I don't understand this ... what did you not like about it? No substance? And the hype was nothing like quite a few other games.

Wooden NPCs, repetitive quests, level scaling, boring combat, no character development or story, etc. It is a big pretty world, but it is not very fun to actually do anything in.

It is one of the highest rated games this gen, and I cannot figure out why. Seems like another GTAIV situation.
 

American Gunner

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Wooden NPCs, repetitive quests, level scaling, boring combat, no character development or story, etc. It is a big pretty world, but it is not very fun to actually do anything in.

It is one of the highest rated games this gen, and I cannot figure out why. Seems like another GTAIV situation.
I'm not really loving Skyrim that much, but I can't say it is over rated. And I especially can't say that Resistance 3 is under rated. That game was just another generic Halo want to be. I got extremely bored of R3 pretty quickly.
 

Drako

Lifer
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1) Top 3 favorite games

Portal 2, LA Noire, Dead Space 2

2) Most disappointing

Dragon Age II and Alice: The Madness Returns

3) Biggest surprise

Dark Souls, in a bad way just because of the lag :)

4) Favorite indi-game

Iilo Milo and Bastion

5) Most overrated

Catherine

6) Most underrated

Duke Nukem Forever - I found it entertaining :p
 

dougp

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Wooden NPCs, repetitive quests, level scaling, boring combat, no character development or story, etc. It is a big pretty world, but it is not very fun to actually do anything in.

It is one of the highest rated games this gen, and I cannot figure out why. Seems like another GTAIV situation.

Or it might not be your cup of tea, but I don't agree with 4 out of 5 of the things you listed. The only one you might have on it is the wooden NPCs, but have you played any recent RPG? Quests are repetitive, period - the question is how engaging is the gameplay for you as an individual.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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1. World of Tanks, Portal 2, World of Warcraft
2. Star Trek Online, Heroes of Might and Magic Online
3. World of Tanks
4. Winter Voices (I expect Limbo will be good)
5. Not sure
6. Not sure
 

Todd33

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Oct 16, 2003
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Or it might not be your cup of tea, but I don't agree with 4 out of 5 of the things you listed. The only one you might have on it is the wooden NPCs, but have you played any recent RPG? Quests are repetitive, period - the question is how engaging is the gameplay for you as an individual.

Then one could give every game they like a 10/10 by overlooking a huge list of obvious deficiencies. So either I see these weakness and no other reviewer did, or they are all cattle slapping scores on game without playing them.
 

Drako

Lifer
Jun 9, 2007
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1. World of Tanks, Portal 2, World of Warcraft
2. Star Trek Online, Heroes of Might and Magic Online
3. World of Tanks
4. Winter Voices (I expect Limbo will be good)
5. Not sure
6. Not sure

LOL, typical.

Posting all PC games in the Console forum. What a dumbass :biggrin:

edit: oh wait, Portal 2 is a console game :), sorry Craig.
 

Sulaco

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Mar 28, 2003
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Top 3 Favorite Games

Skyrim, Shogun 2 Total War, L.A. Noire and Dead Space 2 (tie)

Most Disappointing

Didn't play any truly disappointing games released in 2011, but the most disappointing I played in 2011 would probably be Metro 2033.

Biggest Surprise

Same as above (not a 2011 game, but I played it first this year), ArmA II Operation Arrowhead. Wasn't sure what to expect, ended up loving the game with co-op.

Best Indie

LIMBO. No question.

Most Overrated

I haven't played the newest CoD or BF, or else I'm sure they'd take the cake, but at this point, Uncharted 3. 10 out of 10?? Shut up, IGN.

Most Underrated

L.A. Noire.
The gameplay has some major flaws, and it's not going to appeal to the "GTA generation" of gamers, but for old-school PC graphic adventure gamers and fans of story-driven games with great atmosphere, it's fantastic.
 

skace

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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1) Top 3 favorite games
SSF4AE - I don't need 3, only 1. Yea, it is that good. Out of memorable 2011 games, SSF4AE will certainly stand out as one that I can keep coming back to.

2) Most disappointing
Duke Nukem Forever - Well you know, it is tough. See, I went in knowing my hopes were already crushed, knowing that reviews were already slamming the game. However, there was something inside me, something that still really wanted to believe the game would be decent, but it was just so fucking bad that it hurt to play. It really did disappoint me, kind of like going to see the Transformers movies knowing they aren't what you grew up with, but going anyways just to see your childhood shit on.

3) Biggest surprise
Minecraft - It is definitely hard to surprise someone who has been gaming for a long time. After awhile, the surprises take the form of things you don't necessarily love or even want, but that really catch you off guard in an unexplainable way. Minecraft certainly caught me off guard. Based on descriptions of the game play, I technically should not even enjoy it, but yet I did. Based on the graphics and depth, I should have gotten bored very quickly, but I didn't. Based on the fact that the multiplayer was barely implemented, I should have stopped connecting to peoples servers, but I remained. I can't say it was the best thing ever made, but certainly surprising.

4) Favorite indi-game
Cavestory+ - That's right, Cavestory re-released with a $ value. And I give it all the money in the world for that. If I can't count Cavestory (because it has existed for a long time), then what about Dungeon Defenders? Certainly another huge addiction on the forefront. I give a nod to Limbo, but it didn't hook me as much as I had hoped, there is another game that did the premise first, with a name I will not recall, that gripped me so much more (starts with you standing over a grave).

5) Most overrated
Skyrim - This isn't really fair, Bethesda games are almost universally overrated. People froth at the mouths for a game they will wander aimlessly in and never actually beat. A game with boring characters, no plot, dungeons without purposes. I say this almost tongue-in-cheek, because I haven't actually played Skyrim yet, but I certainly know I'm right, I've already seen it in what I will call the second wave of reviews that started to appear about a month after it was out (if it has been that long). However, I've learned this lesson the hard way, via Fallout, via Oblivion, via Morrowind. It is the same promises every time with a mountain of hype on top that people buy into again and again and again. They can promise all the same things for the next release, fail to deliver any of them, and people will still eat it up. And no, it isn't that I don't like the genre, I like it when it is done right - see Gothic, Grand Theft Auto. There are plenty of fully functional open world games that have a lot more story, a lot deeper characters and a lot more engaging game play. Part of me is just disappointed that people keep rewarding failure, because I know if Bethesda ever realizes the same tricks aren't working they might actually go the distance and release what everyone knows they are capable of releasing.

6) Most underrated
Brink - It is very tough for me to choose the game I play on a regular basis that is the most underrated since I'd have to follow the community (or lack thereof) of every single game. But I am going to throw a bone to Brink. Here is a game that had some technical difficulty at release, however is now fully patched and a completely solid FPS game with significant teamplay. However... the community is dead and gone, can only find about 6 servers within decent ping range of myself in the North East. It is sad, I'm pretty sure the game will completely die off, and yet is is a very engaging and solid FPS. What happened?
 
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RzeusR

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well Skyrim was by far the best name of the year. i think it all was the best from begging to end
 

Sulaco

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5) Most overrated
Skyrim - This isn't really fair, Bethesda games are almost universally overrated. People froth at the mouths for a game they will wander aimlessly in and never actually beat. A game with boring characters, no plot, dungeons without purposes. I say this almost tongue-in-cheek, because I haven't actually played Skyrim yet, but I certainly know I'm right, I've already seen it in what I will call the second wave of reviews that started to appear about a month after it was out (if it has been that long). However, I've learned this lesson the hard way, via Fallout, via Oblivion, via Morrowind. It is the same promises every time with a mountain of hype on top that people buy into again and again and again. They can promise all the same things for the next release, fail to deliver any of them, and people will still eat it up. And no, it isn't that I don't like the genre, I like it when it is done right - see Gothic, Grand Theft Auto. There are plenty of fully functional open world games that have a lot more story, a lot deeper characters and a lot more engaging game play. Part of me is just disappointed that people keep rewarding failure, because I know if Bethesda ever realizes the same tricks aren't working they might actually go the distance and release what everyone knows they are capable of releasing.

:rolleyes:

Shouldn't a requirement of forming a list like this be, you know...to at least actually play what is being nominated?

As for your specific points, yes, there is going to be a backlash against games like Skyrim because of the absolute monstrous HYPE that is built up in the weeks and months prior to, during, and even after release. People expect perfection, and when they don't get it, they're horribly disappointed. Unfairly so, in many cases.
And seriously, never, ever compare Grand Theft Auto to an RPG. Just..don't. "Open world" games aren't a genre. Otherwise the Spider-Man games should be compared to Skyrim and GTA and ArmA II and Gothic. That's not its own genre, it's just a gameplay element a number of games happen to share.

Skyrim is quite flawed, and there a number of niggling (and moderate) points that keep it from being perfect. But there's sooooo much done right that people are willing and able to overlook the shortcomings for the otherwise awesome experience they get. Doesn't make them sheep, and certainly doesn't make the game or Bethesda "failures". Please.
 

Beev

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1) Top 3 favorite games

Skyrim by a landslide
Disgaea 4
Dark Souls

2) Most disappointing

Any of the shooters this year classify as pretty disappointing to me. (Portal 2 aside)

3) Biggest surprise

Dark Souls. I liked Demon's Souls, but I didn't love it. Dark Souls is just amazing.

4) Favorite indi-game

Limbo

5) Most overrated

MW3. I finally got around to playing a couple of games, and it's just as bad as it always seemed it would be.

6) Most underrated

Disgaea 4. I wish SRPG's had a bigger following...
 

Daverino

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1) Dark Souls, World of Tanks, BF3
2) None (was careful buying things this year)
3) Dark Souls
4) Minecraft
5) None (see two)
6) Dark Souls again. This was just an amazing game experience. I was warned what I was getting into and thought pfft, how hard can it be? Most games are made hard by making themselves unfair. Not so for Dark Souls.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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1) Top 3 favorite games
Portal 2 (portal 2 was the only 2011 game I bought)
My other favorites I first played in 2011:
Batman Akrham Asylum - my friend told me to pick this up and it has got to be one of my favorite games of all time

The entire Gears of War series - Still playing through 3 but I like it a lot. It sucks that
Dom Dies - WTH??
. But the game is more of a freak out fest which I like.

2) Most disappointing
Uncharted series
3) Biggest surprise
Batman Arkham Asylum. I thought it would be good, but move into one of my favorite games of all time category? NEVER. I will be getting City when they fix the 360 save glitch.
4) Favorite indi-game
Bastion.
5) Most overrated
MW3
6) Most underrated
Good question. I'm not sure.