the BEST F-ing video card now.

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Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: bjc112
I would personally go for a Ti4200 or 9500 PRO, when Doom 3 and Half Life 2 actually come out, you can upgrade to the lastest and greatest which will be more geared towards games of that caliber...

But since you didn't ask that, i say the 9800 Pro, save yourself a $100 bucs towards something like a new hard drive or more ram.

hl2 and doom 3 will run on a ti-4200 just fine...

Fine by who's standards? Basing the game engine on Geforce 3/8500 your settings are going to be very limited..


Your probably looking at 40 FPS or less...

By the time next year when Doom comes out, a much more viable option will be available...

800*600, aa/fsaa off, it should do ok

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: elsomo
if i wanna get the f*cking best video card that can fit in a shuttle

Why do you need a f*cking video card. Aren't you man enough to do the f*cking yourself?

 

[Regs]

Once again, given the relatively slow nature of Doom 3 in itself, 30-40 FPS will be very smooth. So a 9600 or a 4200 with no aa/af will be pushing just about that.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: elsomo
if i wanna get the f*cking best video card that can fit in a shuttle

Why do you need a f*cking video card. Aren't you man enough to do the f*cking yourself?

Yeah, any video card can become a f*cking video card with the right software 🙂

I am sure this thing has a killer video card in it[/quote]

Yeah, but there aren't any good games for IRIX! 🙂

 

[StraightPipe]

get this card, no get that card, this ones faster I can prove it with an etch-a-sketvh!

I suppose you could stick a very top of the line video card in one now and not have to replace it for a while (heck, I know some people that still use Geforce2 MX 200's NOW). Would you really want to though? I know I wouldn't. I would say get the best bang for the buck, and just do that same every year. This way you don't spend too much, and stay up with technology. Best bang for the buck IMHO: Radeon 9800 Non-Pro or Radeon 9700 Pro. $200-225 or so for either and both will rock your games for a long time to come.

yes sir!





Edit: Sorry for posting this and brining it back to the top

 

[batmang]

NVIDIA > ATI

NVIDIA DRIVERS > ATI DRIVERS

IF ATI HIRED NVIDIA GUYS TO MAKE THEM DRIVERS.... ATI > NVIDIA

 

[Redviffer]

Originally posted by: batmang
NVIDIA > ATI

NVIDIA DRIVERS > ATI DRIVERS

IF ATI HIRED NVIDIA GUYS TO MAKE THEM DRIVERS.... ATI > NVIDIA

Word on many websites is that this situation has reversed, and ATi drivers are better than Nvidia. I still lean towards Nvidia as having the best drivers out there. For instance, my Geforce4 Ti4200 plays NOLF2 fine, but my Radeon 9700Pro clips plains when I get close to walls, etc. The game still works, but I would think they could fix something like that fairly easy, and haven't.

 

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Originally posted by: wetcat007

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Lyfer

Originally posted by: shady06
they are neck to neck as far as performance, get the cheaper of the two

benches? The two reviews I red from THG and anand has the 5900FX owning the 9800 256mb by a decent margin.

i believe that was with the hacked drivers, not sure though, the 9800 pro gets better image quality though if u rewad the article at firringsquad a few days ago

check out image quality

maybe nvidia is winning cuz their 4X AA looks like crap???

 

[Noriaki]

Originally posted by: elsomo
will just never need to be replaced until like 2006

Good luck, Radeon 9800Pros and FX5900 Ultras are going to be middle of the pack in 6-8 months, and be worth 1/2 of what they are now.

You'd be way better off to get something cheap that will fit your current needs, then when Doom3 and HL2, etc come out get a video card that you need to play them at that time.

Trying to stay ahead of the techology curve is futile, you'll just blow a pile of money.


However, if you are going to buy either a Radeon 9800Pro or a FX5900 Ultra, I'd go with the Radeon.

I wouldn't count on it seemingly like a very powerful card in a year though, let alone 3.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Lyfer

Originally posted by: shady06
they are neck to neck as far as performance, get the cheaper of the two

benches? The two reviews I red from THG and anand has the 5900FX owning the 9800 256mb by a decent margin.

You read THG? They are bunch of cyber punks and lieing scum. IMHO Don't get a 256MB Card, its not worth it at all unless your doing some 3D Max or CAD even if you where I would recommend a card made for that sort of work.

You like nVidia = Get a GeForce 5900U (If they dont make it in 1 slot configuration get the 5900, its not that much slower)
You like ATi = ATI 9800 (9900 to be pre-released with Half-Life 2 so you might want to wait)

 

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Originally posted by: Noriaki

Originally posted by: elsomo
will just never need to be replaced until like 2006

Good luck, Radeon 9800Pros and FX5900 Ultras are going to be middle of the pack in 6-8 months, and be worth 1/2 of what they are now.

You'd be way better off to get something cheap that will fit your current needs, then when Doom3 and HL2, etc come out get a video card that you need to play them at that time.

Trying to stay ahead of the techology curve is futile, you'll just blow a pile of money.


However, if you are going to buy either a Radeon 9800Pro or a FX5900 Ultra, I'd go with the Radeon.

I wouldn't count on it seemingly like a very powerful card in a year though, let alone 3.

the 9700 pro has been out for a year and i still consider it a top performer. one of the top 4 video cards out IMO (5900U, 9800 pro, 5900, 9700 pro). i think it can go on for another good 6 months

 

[Noriaki]

Originally posted by: shady06
the 9700 pro has been out for a year and i still consider it a top performer. one of the top 4 video cards out IMO (5900U, 9800 pro, 5900, 9700 pro). i think it can go on for another good 6 months

A top performer? Not really. An excellent performing card, especially when you consider it's price? Sure, absolutely. And I don't doubt it will continue to be a viable card for at least another 6 months...probably substantially longer. I mean I'm running a Radeon 7500 here, and I'm still mostly happy with that. The 9700 is still a great card. But I wouldn't call it a top end performer anymore, that's the 9800Pro and maybe 5900Ultra.

Maybe I was being a little overzealous with my 6-8 months...and personally I have nothing against the 9700, in fact I'd recommend it over a 9800Pro most of the time. But I get the impression elsomo here wants bleeding edge top of the line and expects it to stay that way, and a 9700 isn't, even after only a year, nevermind 3.

 

[mrgoblin]

2006? dont be dumb. Get the 9700 pro and upgrade again in a few years. THen you can have a respectable box instead of a piece in 4 years

 

[Blastman]

The latest THG VGA charts are complete garbage. They took the 3 most bias (cheated/optimized on by NV) games and used those for a comparison. NV must have paid good money for that review.

9800pro is overall a faster card if you get away from the ? ?optimized? ? benchmarks. And especially so if you start looking at shader performance.