The average laser printer toner runs out after 2500 prints?

[Nocturnal]

Is this correct? What do you suggest when you work with a high load of printing?

 

[RU482]

which model, or Laser vs other?

definately laser

 

[T2T III]

For some of the Samsung laser printers, it is 2,500 pages. For the Brother 1440, it's either 3,000 or 6,000 pages depending on the cartridge that you use. I don't own a HP laserjet, so I can't comment on the number of prints that their cartridges are good for. But, with HP, I'm assuming that since they have so many printers and so many different cartridge types, it must be all over the place.

As far as having to print a lot of pages, office environments usually have higher-end HP printers (or, even other higher end printers for that matter.) The cartridges are usually higher capacity. However, if you have 40 people sharing a networked laser printer, toner cartridges usually have to get replaced quite frequently. If the toner runs low, the printer will usually just go into an error mode and stop printing until someone gives the printer the attention that it needs.

 

[Nocturnal]

I have a Samsung ml 1430 at work and it ran out of ink kinda fast.

 

[Zim Hosein]

% coverage is what you need to look at IMHO.

 

[VBboy]

Many printers do 10,000. What do you mean by "average"? Home/Office?

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: VBboy
Many printers do 10,000. What do you mean by "average"? Home/Office?

I think you're reading the thing wrong. Thats the print capacity or something. If you read about the toner itself it usually says something like "able to print out 2500 pages etc."

 

[T2T III]

Additionally, the higher-end HP printers designed for office environments also have higher-capacity printer trays. These trays can hold lots of paper so you don't have to refill them quite as often with paper.

If you have a high number of print-outs to print of the same material, then you should consider using a print service. Staples provides such a service. I'm not sure of their cost per page, but you could bring your document in on a diskette and have them print the materials for you. If their costs are relatively cheap, then you might just want to have them print the materials for you.

 

[Nocturnal]

No, it isn't for the same type of things over and over again. It is actually for a cell phone business. I do activations via the internet and I have to print out the contract for the customers. I am looking at the HP 3330MFP but I don't know if I want it due to the low volume. I may look into one of the bigger ones.

 

[VBboy]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: VBboy
Many printers do 10,000. What do you mean by "average"? Home/Office?

I think you're reading the thing wrong. Thats the print capacity or something. If you read about the toner itself it usually says something like "able to print out 2500 pages etc."

Nah, dude See for yourself: example. And this is for a normal-size machine (picture here). I used some larger units (but smaller than a 25" TV set), and many had high output ratings per toner.

 

[Bullhonkie]

You definitely have to take into account % coverage as Zim Hosein mentioned. Most stats I've seen are based on an average of 5% coverage.

If you frequently print pages with more or less (lots of graphics, or perhaps text with lots of white space, for example), then you may get a lot more or a lot less pages than the specs on a particular toner cartridge would otherwise indicate.

Edit: for readability

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: VBboy

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: VBboy
Many printers do 10,000. What do you mean by "average"? Home/Office?

I think you're reading the thing wrong. Thats the print capacity or something. If you read about the toner itself it usually says something like "able to print out 2500 pages etc."

Nah, dude See for yourself: example. And this is for a normal-size machine (picture here). I used some larger units (but smaller than a 25" TV set), and many had high output ratings per toner.

Oh ok, thanks! Do you know why my Samsung would be going so quickly? I could've sworn it said the output was 10,000 pages.

 

[T2T III]

Oh ok, thanks! Do you know why my Samsung would be going so quickly? I could've sworn it said the output was 10,000 pages.

Smaller, personal size laser printers hardly ever have a toner cartridge capable of printing 10,000 pages.

 

[lowtech1]

It all depends on the printer & toner cartridge size. The head office of my company goes though about 60000~70000 pages of paper per year and we use up about 6 toner cartridges per year on our HP 4000tn/4050tn printers.

The HP toner cost is about $0.018 per page, while there are printer such as the Okidata 24dxn that will do $0.006 per page.

 

[Nocturnal]

The reason I'm thinking about picking up the all-in-one is that we're located in a shopping mall in a kiosk. We don't have A LOT of room to have numerous types of equipment such as a fax machine, a scanner, a copier, and a laser printer etc etc. So, I thought that one all in one, especially since it is a laser, would be a good deal. Does anyone know or has experience with the HP 3330 all in one? I'm hoping it'll last a little bit longer than this Samsung.

 

[lowtech1]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
The reason I'm thinking about picking up the all-in-one is that we're located in a shopping mall in a kiosk. We don't have A LOT of room to have numerous types of equipment such as a fax machine, a scanner, a copier, and a laser printer etc etc. So, I thought that one all in one, especially since it is a laser, would be a good deal. Does anyone know or has experience with the HP 3330 all in one? I'm hoping it'll last a little bit longer than this Samsung.

Don't bother with the all in one jobies, because they can't handle any workload. They are okay for the occasion use at a home office. Get a real dedicate machine for each job is the way to go for an office.

The printers, fax, and photocopy machine can be stack of you have a shelf for it, which wouldn?t take so much room.

My company purchased 2 all in one machine for a trial, because of space concern, but they ended up taken offline to clear the space for the real work horse after 3 months of trial. They breakdown easily when you print high number of prints at once, and are extremely slow.

The new laser printers that you can get these day are great. They can be had for less than $3000.00 that will do 35~45 ppm, and can hold as much as 5000~6000 pages.

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: lowtech

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
The reason I'm thinking about picking up the all-in-one is that we're located in a shopping mall in a kiosk. We don't have A LOT of room to have numerous types of equipment such as a fax machine, a scanner, a copier, and a laser printer etc etc. So, I thought that one all in one, especially since it is a laser, would be a good deal. Does anyone know or has experience with the HP 3330 all in one? I'm hoping it'll last a little bit longer than this Samsung.

Don't bother with the all in one jobies, because they can't handle any workload. They are okay for the occasion use at a home office. Get a real dedicate machine for each job is the way to go for an office.

The printers, fax, and photocopy machine can be stack of you have a shelf for it, which wouldn?t take so much room.

My company purchased 2 all in one machine for a trial, because of space concern, but they ended up taken offline to clear the space for the real work horse after 3 months of trial. They breakdown easily when you print high number of prints at once, and are extremely slow.

The new laser printers that you can get these day are great. They can be had for less than $3000.00 that will do 35~45 ppm, and can hold as much as 5000~6000 pages.

What would you recommend for a single store though? It isn't an entire work force printing. It's only me and my two employees. We print cell phone contracts that range from four-six pages roughly. I probably go through about 1000 pages a month. Please let me know which one you recommend. Thanks.

 

[lowtech1]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: lowtech

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
The reason I'm thinking about picking up the all-in-one is that we're located in a shopping mall in a kiosk. We don't have A LOT of room to have numerous types of equipment such as a fax machine, a scanner, a copier, and a laser printer etc etc. So, I thought that one all in one, especially since it is a laser, would be a good deal. Does anyone know or has experience with the HP 3330 all in one? I'm hoping it'll last a little bit longer than this Samsung.

Don't bother with the all in one jobies, because they can't handle any workload. They are okay for the occasion use at a home office. Get a real dedicate machine for each job is the way to go for an office.

The printers, fax, and photocopy machine can be stack of you have a shelf for it, which wouldn?t take so much room.

My company purchased 2 all in one machine for a trial, because of space concern, but they ended up taken offline to clear the space for the real work horse after 3 months of trial. They breakdown easily when you print high number of prints at once, and are extremely slow.

The new laser printers that you can get these day are great. They can be had for less than $3000.00 that will do 35~45 ppm, and can hold as much as 5000~6000 pages.

What would you recommend for a single store though? It isn't an entire work force printing. It's only me and my two employees. We print cell phone contracts that range from four-six pages roughly. I probably go through about 1000 pages a month. Please let me know which one you recommend. Thanks.

I'm not too familiar with printers, because I have only so far supported mostly HP colour/B&W lasers, and a few Minolta, Zerox & Brother.

IMHO the printers these day are built slightly cheaper than the printers from 5~10 years ago, because it came from the competitive cost cutting. I find that the higher end printers are all great and lower end printers aren't as good regardless of manufacturer.

I have heard great thing from the Zerox camp & HP recently have answers the competition by cutting the price of their laserjet 4100/4200/4300 line while speed up the ppm. I think going with HP, Xerox, or Minolta will do you no wrong.

I can't recommend Brother, Okidata, or Samsung is because the little experience that I have had with them hasn't been good. It could be that I have only dealt with the lower end one from these manufacturers.

 

[tekkjunkie]

You definitely have to take into account % coverage as Zim Hosein mentioned. Most stats I've seen are based on an average of 5% coverage.

This is the archaic standard still used today. All outputs are based on you printing 5% coverage per page. I have to explain this at work 100's of times a day to the public when they come in complaining "I only printed X number of pages and already ran out of ink!"