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Anubis

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my bro used to heal heroics on our priest in blues with 1200ish+ healing and he did fine, i think you will be fine

actually our friend who plays a druid who i woudl almost refer to as terabad heals heroics just fine in blues and rep gear
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Aikouka

Wowhead's comment section for the Master of Transmutation quest actually has numbers on it (but I thought it had more than this... there might be even more numbers on some other comment section for primal might or something). But the one guy reported a 132% yield from 71 transmutes.

I wonder if the guy who reported those numbers took into consideration that huge window of time where transmuting procs were bugged and didn't work.



Originally posted by: Aikouka
Do you think the beatdown packs in Shattered Halls should also be in that list? They take a ton of healing because of the almost constant MS that they keep up.

I am not certain which packs you are referring to. The only packs which I think might benefit more from HT instead of a tree being smart about HoT distribution alone would be the gladiator packs should you choose to pull them.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
I wonder if the guy who reported those numbers took into consideration that huge window of time where transmuting procs were bugged and didn't work.

Probably not since comments after his talked about it being bugged and then another one after that says it was fixed in 2.3.2. Like I mentioned, he may have updated stats somewhere else.


Originally posted by: Xavier434
I am not certain which packs you are referring to. The only packs which I think might benefit more from HT instead of a tree being smart about HoT distribution alone would be the gladiator packs should you choose to pull them.

The Gladiator packs are the beat down packs. They're called beat down because I think people referred to them attacking each other as "beat down." I know I've had trouble healing on them, but I think that might be DPS related because I don't think they were focusing correctly (surprise surprise, PUG FTL).
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Xavier434
I wonder if the guy who reported those numbers took into consideration that huge window of time where transmuting procs were bugged and didn't work.

Probably not since comments after his talked about it being bugged and then another one after that says it was fixed in 2.3.2. Like I mentioned, he may have updated stats somewhere else.


Originally posted by: Xavier434
I am not certain which packs you are referring to. The only packs which I think might benefit more from HT instead of a tree being smart about HoT distribution alone would be the gladiator packs should you choose to pull them.

The Gladiator packs are the beat down packs. They're called beat down because I think people referred to them attacking each other as "beat down." I know I've had trouble healing on them, but I think that might be DPS related because I don't think they were focusing correctly (surprise surprise, PUG FTL).

yea wipes on those pulls normally are from someone pulling agro or just attacking the wrong thing
 

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: livingsacrifice
Originally posted by: BadRobot
It depends on what class you are, and which blues on whether or not you can do heroics. Also there are certain instances that are noticably easier or harder than each other.

full resto druid and all blue items except for the cape which is lots of armor and stamina added

If you are solo healing and the tank is about par with you in terms of gear then expect a learning curve but you can do it. You will also need adequate CC. There will be pulls where it will be better for you to remain out of tree because the burst damage is just too high and HT will be necessary in order to keep the tank up. For example, you will need HT for the Destroyers in Mechanar and the Bog Lord guys in Steamvaults. Other than that, it is all about your DPS being smart and not getting hit when they shouldn't and keeping those HoTs maxed on your MT. Don't be afraid to use extra mana per pull in order to maintain the LBx3 + Rejuv + Regrowth combo on your MT. It's worth it.

Well I keep mana pretty well spirit is jacked up to like 350 and intellect is giving me around 6500mana. Thanks for the tips, thats normally what I do anyways in the AV PVP matches I do. I'll try a short one tonight like Steam Vault heroic and see if it works out okay.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Aikouka

The Gladiator packs are the beat down packs. They're called beat down because I think people referred to them attacking each other as "beat down." I know I've had trouble healing on them, but I think that might be DPS related because I don't think they were focusing correctly (surprise surprise, PUG FTL).

Ok, my best advise for those packs is to skip them. Have your tank pull everything except the beatdown packs to the previous room where the sleeping orcs were and kill them there. At that point, you can run straight down the middle without pulling aggro to that area in between the two big rooms containing the beatdown packs. From that point just pull the next room to that middle area doing the same thing you did with the previous room. It really isn't worth the hassle of pulling the beatdown packs.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Aikouka

The Gladiator packs are the beat down packs. They're called beat down because I think people referred to them attacking each other as "beat down." I know I've had trouble healing on them, but I think that might be DPS related because I don't think they were focusing correctly (surprise surprise, PUG FTL).

Ok, my best advise for those packs is to skip them. Have your tank pull everything except the beatdown packs to the previous room where the sleeping orcs were and kill them there. At that point, you can run straight down the middle without pulling aggro to that area in between the two big rooms containing the beatdown packs. From that point just pull the next room to that middle area doing the same thing you did with the previous room. It really isn't worth the hassle of pulling the beatdown packs.

someone ALWAYS wants the savagry enchant and it drops from them
 

BadRobot

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This is kind of a specific question and I'm not sure if someone has the answer but...If your guild is just now starting to run kara and you are an elemental shaman, any ideas as to what your +damage and +spell crit should be?
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Aikouka

The Gladiator packs are the beat down packs. They're called beat down because I think people referred to them attacking each other as "beat down." I know I've had trouble healing on them, but I think that might be DPS related because I don't think they were focusing correctly (surprise surprise, PUG FTL).

Ok, my best advise for those packs is to skip them. Have your tank pull everything except the beatdown packs to the previous room where the sleeping orcs were and kill them there. At that point, you can run straight down the middle without pulling aggro to that area in between the two big rooms containing the beatdown packs. From that point just pull the next room to that middle area doing the same thing you did with the previous room. It really isn't worth the hassle of pulling the beatdown packs.

someone ALWAYS wants the savagry enchant and it drops from them

In that case, I usually start by doing this to the MT:

Rejuv -> HT -> LB -> LB -> HT -> Repeat

Or something like that. The rejuv is good because you might need swiftmend somewhere within that rotation and the HT following the rejuv should fix that initial burst damage the tank will most likely get. LB is just awesome so I toss that in there. After the first orc or two dies you can most likely switch to tree and just stack the HoTs.
 

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Originally posted by: livingsacrifice
Originally posted by: BadRobot
It depends on what class you are, and which blues on whether or not you can do heroics. Also there are certain instances that are noticably easier or harder than each other.

full resto druid and all blue items except for the cape which is lots of armor and stamina added

You'll be fine, but like others had said, having a good tank will make things much easier.

My heroic partner is a holy priest in full blues, but he he did just fine healing me - even when I tank those Fel demons in heroic BF that hit like a truck.

One thing I noticed about heroic PuG is that there are some people in full purple (elitist pricks) who will automatically discount your skills if they see you in blues. I had quite a few who would just drop party or make lame excuse to leave after inspecting other members. One time I had this shadow priest who cussed out our healer for a little mistake - so I promptly kick him out of the group and /ignore. Got a mage to rep him and clear the instance without any issue.
 

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im an elixir spec and I love it. I have almost every flask and elixir. For raiding its great. Flask for new content, elixirs for farmed content. One time I proc'd 2 extra flasks, good day.

I rarely use my Xmute... I know, it's lazy. So do you guys just buy the cheapest primal and Xmute to the most expensive on a daily basis? I think the most I can make is 4g a day... well i guess thats 4g i didnt have before.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: AntiFreze
im an elixir spec and I love it. I have almost every flask and elixir. For raiding its great. Flask for new content, elixirs for farmed content. One time I proc'd 2 extra flasks, good day.

I rarely use my Xmute... I know, it's lazy. So do you guys just buy the cheapest primal and Xmute to the most expensive on a daily basis? I think the most I can make is 4g a day... well i guess thats 4g i didnt have before.

Yes. Earth -> Water is the most profitable transmute combo I have discovered. However, I am looking into a new means. Tests so far have proven to be successful but the results are slower. Your server's market can very easily destroy my idea, but I don't think any of the readers here are on my server and I like you guys a lot so what the hell.

Here is what I am trying. It requires you to have access to a JC that can cut Bracing Earthstorm Diamonds. On my server, these diamonds sell for about 90-110g a pop. The mats for transmuting an earthstorm diamond are Primal Earthx2, Primal Waterx2, and 9 green quality gems. The total cost in mats assuming I transmute 2 earths into 2 waters comes out to be around 26g for me. I then use my JC to cut a Bracing Earthstorm diamond. Selling that diamond for the minimum of 90g nets me 66g profit.

However, it is important to consider what I could be doing instead. It takes a total of 3 transmutes to do what I described above. I could be using those transmutes for earth -> water and just selling the waters for profit. The profit I gain from transmuting Earth -> Water is about 15g per transmute so 3 days worth is 45g in profit.

66g > 45g

The final cost is AH deposits which I lose. It usually takes me 2-3 tries to sell those diamonds which means I lose 1.8g per failed try. The end result is this:

66g-3.6g = 62.4g

62.4g > 45g

This process takes longer which means I need to be patient but that patience earns me an additional 17.4g more than what a simple earth -> water would get me every 3 days assuming I sell the diamonds for the minimum price. As far as I know, I am the only person on my server which does this. There are usually only 2-3 diamonds up which I need to undercut. These are often made by people who are leveling JC which means they do not fill the AH with a continuous supply. I haven't done this for very long so I do not know if it is full proof or not which is why I still stand by the Earth -> Water being the most profitable. That plus you need a JCer to do the above strat.
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: AntiFreze
im an elixir spec and I love it. I have almost every flask and elixir. For raiding its great. Flask for new content, elixirs for farmed content. One time I proc'd 2 extra flasks, good day.

I rarely use my Xmute... I know, it's lazy. So do you guys just buy the cheapest primal and Xmute to the most expensive on a daily basis? I think the most I can make is 4g a day... well i guess thats 4g i didnt have before.

Yes. Earth -> Water is the most profitable transmute combo I have discovered. However, I am looking into a new means. Tests so far have proven to be successful but the results are slower. Your server's market can very easily destroy my idea, but I don't think any of the readers here are on my server and I like you guys a lot so what the hell.

Here is what I am trying. It requires you to have access to a JC that can cut Bracing Earthstorm Diamonds. On my server, these diamonds sell for about 90-110g a pop. The mats for transmuting an earthstorm diamond are Primal Earthx2, Primal Waterx2, and 9 green quality gems. The total cost in mats assuming I transmute 2 earths into 2 waters comes out to be around 26g for me. I then use my JC to cut a Bracing Earthstorm diamond. Selling that diamond for the minimum of 90g nets me 66g profit.

However, it is important to consider what I could be doing instead. It takes a total of 3 transmutes to do what I described above. I could be using those transmutes for earth -> water and just selling the waters for profit. The profit I gain from transmuting Earth -> Water is about 15g per transmute so 3 days worth is 45g in profit.

66g > 45g

The final cost is AH deposits which I lose. It usually takes me 2-3 tries to sell those diamonds which means I lose 1.8g per failed try. The end result is this:

66g-3.6g = 62.4g

62.4g > 45g

This process takes longer which means I need to be patient but that patience earns me an additional 17.4g more than what a simple earth -> water would get me every 3 days assuming I sell the diamonds for the minimum price. As far as I know, I am the only person on my server which does this. There are usually only 2-3 diamonds up which I need to undercut. These are often made by people who are leveling JC which means they do not fill the AH with a continuous supply. I haven't done this for very long so I do not know if it is full proof or not which is why I still stand by the Earth -> Water being the most profitable. That plus you need a JCer to do the above strat.

Transmute master ftw
 

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I have thought of coming back to the game. I transfered off my old pvp server to a pve server and hate it there. I don't know anyone. If any of you guys know a good pve server let me know.
 

invidia

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Originally posted by: Narse
I have thought of coming back to the game. I transfered off my old pvp server to a pve server and hate it there. I don't know anyone. If any of you guys know a good pve server let me know.

Alliance or horde?
 

invidia

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Originally posted by: Narse
Alliance

My 70 human lock is on ghostlands. It's a new PVE transfer server. It eventual got overpopulated with +500 queues but Blizzard offered free transfers off of it. I think it's a little stable now. I only recommend it because the alliance "WINS" AV and wins a decent amount of the other BGs. So no constantly losing against premades. Or have 2 hour queues for AV.


Oh, and the AV queues are near instant.
 

MustISO

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There's a new server from the end of Feb called Cairne that is on CST time. I started a new character on there just to see what it would be like started from a new realm with tons of low level characters. There's certainly never any problem finding a group since everyone is in the same boat. Major downside is I don't have any gold :-(

My mains are on Kargath which is an EST server. I've never had more than a minute or two queue for a BG but I'm not a hardcore PVP player. Server stability is great and I never have any lag.
 

lupi

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I need to collect some of the basic clam for cooking skill ups. (looks like the other alternative coyote meat is about solely in lowbie alliance areas). What the best horde friendly place to gather it?
 
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