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SR1729

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Maybe because they are adding more servers now.

Also I just read, they changed it so the horn only sounds twice when you are about to lose in conquest. I wonder how many other undocumented changes there are?

THANK YOU

That !@#$ing thing was the most obnoxious thing in the world.
 

40Hands

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Hooray for the horn nerf! Now make the game remember my previous class load out selections and make a better server browser. It amazes that they still cannot build a proper server browser!
 

pontifex

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If by core game play you mean you go around and shoot people then yes your right but that's also the point of any FPS. BC2 has alot more features than any BF game that has come before it, some features are the same but the ones that are have been changed in some way shape or form. If thats the only excuse you have then fine, you can leave now.

i mean the same style of play, the same crappy weapon accuracy, the same squads, being able to use vehicles, large maps, same shitty interface, etc.

sure it adds some new stuff but thats what pretty much all games in a series do.

you guys keep talking about destroying buildings but it doesn't add that much difference to the game. it takes a good bit firepower to level a building and even if thats the case, the people inside are going to leave if they notice thats what you're doing. oh no, so that wall i was behind got blown up, i'll just go behind another wall...so game changing!!

I also don't understand why you guys keep talking about MW2 like it's my favorite game or something. It's far from it but the way you guys troll every mw2 thread is just as ridiculous as me supposedly trolling every bc2 thread. i've only posted negative comments in 2 bc2 threads that i can recall, this one and the one where people posted their user names (and i think that one only had 1 or 2 comments).

i guess it's just the same old forum double standard. You guys can complain about a game you don't like but when someone else tries to complain about a game you like, oh no way, jose.
 

JE78

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i mean the same style of play, the same crappy weapon accuracy, the same squads, being able to use vehicles, large maps, same shitty interface, etc.

Its a Battlefield game, what did you expect? Are you mad because you can't hit a guy 300 yards away with an assult rifle like you can do "other" FPS games? I hate to tell you but the BF series is more life like than the "other" game is if you've ever shot an assault rifle. And FYI they did away with planes, the maps are smaller and there are no more 64 person servers. So right there are a bunch of changes from BF2.

i guess it's just the same old forum double standard. You guys can complain about a game you don't like but when someone else tries to complain about a game you like, oh no way, jose.

The problem everyone has with you is your keep harping on EVERYTHING, any time someone says something there you are to "insert smart ass comment here". We get it, you don't like the game, fine, don't play it and stop bitching about here. This thread is about information, and helping people. Start your own thread if you don't like the game.
 

nick1985

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I don't deny that I suck at this game because it's terrible.
how do i post my stats?

They suck because you suck, not the game.

Anyway, here is how. Go here

http://bfbc2.elxx.net/stats/pc/UT99_NooB


Here are my stats:





They have not updated from last night when I went on a tear, my KTD and win ratio's are both quite a bit higher now.


*edit*

Not sure why its not displaying my name in my stats there...must be bugging a bit right now.
 

Zargon

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SR1729

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you guys keep talking about destroying buildings but it doesn't add that much difference to the game.

Credibility FAIL

Have you actually played for more than 5 minutes? You can annihilate people's cover, bring buildings down on top of objectives, etc. Destructible environment = ever changing map flow.

I don't deny that I suck at this game because it's terrible.

Math FAIL

'Suck' is a relative term, not an absolute term. You can't say you suck at this game because the game is terrible, since your suck-ness is measured against other players, not the game itself. For every kill there is a death, and vice versa (suicides aside). Your 0.5 K/D ratio is symbiotic with someone else's 1.5 K/D ratio (a simplified example, but you [should] get the point).

And weapon accuracy is fine. You can't just lay into the trigger like you can in MW2. In fact, BC2's weapons feel very COD4esque to me: short bursts FTW, and if you're not using the sights, of course you can't hit the broad side of a barn. And since we just can't seem to break away from the MW2 comparison, let me tell you this: BC2 counts ALL of my bullets, EVERY TIME. MW2 is notorious for not registering hits until the 3rd or 4th shot.

Shitty interface? No argument there. Thankfully I play games for the gameplay, not their interfaces. I bet you were one of those people who got all bent out of shape because UT2kx didn't have UWindows.
 

SR1729

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i guess it's just the same old forum double standard. You guys can complain about a game you don't like but when someone else tries to complain about a game you like, oh no way, jose

Are you daft? You already made your point. No one has misunderstood your position. They disagree with it, yes, but why you keep coming back to post the same shit YET AGAIN and be dealt the same abuse YET AGAIN is beyond me. People - myself included - genuinely tried to help you. It's obvious you're just one of those people who isn't happy unless they're unhappy. You just need something to bitch about, otherwise you're lost.
 

Childs

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Its funny, but I finally got to play on the ATOT server after like a week and most of the time it was like 2v3, and at most 4v5. I ain't complaining though, as I averaged like 2500 points and got the UMP45. Only 1 weapon to go before I unlock all the class based weapons, and two ranks to go to get the G3. Then I can relax and actually play the game or go back to MAG if anyone is still playing it.

If funny that I spend all this time grinding away to unlock all the weapons, but theres only a couple that I use. They should have had like a shooting range were you could try out all the weapons so you know when you can stop progressing in a particular class. I thought the UMP-45 was worth the time but I dont like it as much as the UZI or AK. I could have spent that time getting the M16.
 

pontifex

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Credibility FAIL

Have you actually played for more than 5 minutes? You can annihilate people's cover, bring buildings down on top of objectives, etc. Destructible environment = ever changing map flow.



Math FAIL

'Suck' is a relative term, not an absolute term. You can't say you suck at this game because the game is terrible, since your suck-ness is measured against other players, not the game itself. For every kill there is a death, and vice versa (suicides aside). Your 0.5 K/D ratio is symbiotic with someone else's 1.5 K/D ratio (a simplified example, but you [should] get the point).

And weapon accuracy is fine. You can't just lay into the trigger like you can in MW2. In fact, BC2's weapons feel very COD4esque to me: short bursts FTW, and if you're not using the sights, of course you can't hit the broad side of a barn. And since we just can't seem to break away from the MW2 comparison, let me tell you this: BC2 counts ALL of my bullets, EVERY TIME. MW2 is notorious for not registering hits until the 3rd or 4th shot.

Shitty interface? No argument there. Thankfully I play games for the gameplay, not their interfaces. I bet you were one of those people who got all bent out of shape because UT2kx didn't have UWindows.

meh, whatever. if the game mechanics are bad then I can't do well. I realize you can't just lay into the trigger. there hasn't been a game in a while that allows you to do that, but at point blank range, it should work.

i don't get bent out of shape over that part. I didn't even play UT online.
 

pontifex

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Are you daft? You already made your point. No one has misunderstood your position. They disagree with it, yes, but why you keep coming back to post the same shit YET AGAIN and be dealt the same abuse YET AGAIN is beyond me. People - myself included - genuinely tried to help you. It's obvious you're just one of those people who isn't happy unless they're unhappy. You just need something to bitch about, otherwise you're lost.

wow, you know me so well from just a few forum posts about a game. :rolleyes:
 
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It doesn't appear to be accurate as I am rank 6 of whatever, not 4.
You've only played 4 hours, give the game a chance. It becomes much less frustrating to play when you're not as bad. I highly recommend Rush mode, it doesn't feel like you're constantly surrounded so in my opinion it's less frustrating because you're not constantly being shot from behind.

Also have a go at squad deathmatch and then try to claim that the game is just like BF2. It's an entirely different dynamic that works very well.

Edit - and besides, you don't suck as much as you think. Your K/D is better than mine,

But I have far more dogtags
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SR1729

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meh, whatever. if the game mechanics are bad then I can't do well.

That's what I'm taking issue with: you can't just arbitrarily link (what you think are) bad game mechanics with your frustration. Sounds like nothing more than excuses to me. You haven't quite figured out what works in this game, so you try to do what you've had success with in other games.

When the results don't satisfy you, you chalk it all up to "bad game mechanics".

I haven't had a game lag on me on either system (360, PC), bullets don't magically follow me around corners like they do in MW2, and all of my shots count. From a mechanics standpoint, those are the only discernible differences between MW2 and BC2 in my experience.


wow, you know me so well from just a few forum posts about a game. :rolleyes:

You mean "one post about a game" that you've re-posted 36 times, right? Do I know you personally? Of course not. Is it reasonable to assume that your incessant unproductive whining is indicative of the "real" Pontifex? Why not.

Like I said above, I searched through some of your other posts on the forum to see if this was par for the course with you, and it is. You. Just. Like. To. Complain.
 

AznAnarchy99

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You've only played 4 hours, give the game a chance. It becomes much less frustrating to play when you're not as bad. I highly recommend Rush mode, it doesn't feel like you're constantly surrounded so in my opinion it's less frustrating because you're not constantly being shot from behind.

Also have a go at squad deathmatch and then try to claim that the game is just like BF2. It's an entirely different dynamic that works very well.

Edit - and besides, you don't suck as much as you think. Your K/D is better than mine,

But I have far more dogtags
razz.png

I thought you hated this game as well?
 

leeland

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You've only played 4 hours, give the game a chance. It becomes much less frustrating to play when you're not as bad. I highly recommend Rush mode, it doesn't feel like you're constantly surrounded so in my opinion it's less frustrating because you're not constantly being shot from behind.

Also have a go at squad deathmatch and then try to claim that the game is just like BF2. It's an entirely different dynamic that works very well.

Edit - and besides, you don't suck as much as you think. Your K/D is better than mine,

But I have far more dogtags
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Leeland.png


That is a pretty cool website! I FINALLY got the first Assault unlock last night. I had been spending the majority of my time on the Recon class...

Do they have any other sites that have each class broken down similar to the sites for BF2 did?
 
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I thought you hated this game as well?
I love the game. I hate the package. I'm pissed off at the server browser and connection issues. I understand that you guys have been taking it up the pooper from Dice for a while so your buttholes are all loose and it doesn't hurt so much, but for those of us new to the series it's frustrating and down right insulting that they would release a game in this state.

The game itself, when I can actually play it, is very good.
 

AznAnarchy99

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I love the game. I hate the package. I'm pissed off at the server browser and connection issues. I understand that you guys have been taking it up the pooper from Dice for a while so your buttholes are all loose and it doesn't hurt so much, but for those of us new to the series it's frustrating and down right insulting that they would release a game in this state.

The game itself, when I can actually play it, is very good.

Gotcha. Meh I agree with you with all of the shit with the server browser and little things such as the UI problems. Main reason why Im not so mad is that I have been able to get into games and have been able to put in a lot of hours in a relatively short time.
 

Childs

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I love the game. I hate the package. I'm pissed off at the server browser and connection issues. I understand that you guys have been taking it up the pooper from Dice for a while so your buttholes are all loose and it doesn't hurt so much, but for those of us new to the series it's frustrating and down right insulting that they would release a game in this state.

The game itself, when I can actually play it, is very good.

Welcome to the Battlefield experience! At its worst its usually better than other games in the genre. BFBC2 was somewhat of a step down from BF2 patched, but its still pretty good.
 

leeland

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Welcome to the Battlefield experience! At its worst its usually better than other games in the genre. BFBC2 was somewhat of a step down from BF2 patched, but its still pretty good.

I would have to agree...it still has a way to go...but overall I am liking the direction...

I think by far the destructible environments is the most fun for me...I always hated having someone hide behind a window / wall / tree in BF2...unload and get nothing...

Now you can literally shoot through most objects outside of concrete walls and get some sort of hit.

Just last night...two guys ran behind a tin wall when I was shooting at a distance...with a sniper rifle...I couldn't see either of them...but I knew they didn't move from behind the tin wall.

Took a shot where I thought one of them would be sitting...register a hit...then a kill...then a marksman bonus...then a double kill bonus...I just laughed...got two with one shot...without seeing them behind a tin wall...

I can live with a shitty server browser that I have to let spin for 3-5 minutes and cancel to get a server listing and some other bugs...the game play is good...and it seems at least initially to me that once you start to get better weapons / unlocks the game becomes a little easier to work with...the initial guns Suck my ass IMO...maybe that is all in my head but it seems a little nicer with some of the unlocked weapons.
 
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