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VulgarDisplay

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How the hell do you play 64 players? The game is just plain awful over 32 players. Over 100fps at all times and still it's just warping and trash gameplay over 32 players. Chat is delayed like 20 seconds, and nothing feels right. I can't stand it.

Back to 32 man rush, the only true gametype.
 

jackstar7

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So is whiner-ism. Why people can't accept that other people have the opinion that being gay is not a positive, and thus 'that's gay' is seen as derogatory, I will not understand. Not everyone approves of the lifestyle...get over it.

And the apologist shows up to defend crappy online gaming slang.
 

TheNiceGuy

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Fashionable 'holy cows', shibboleths, and censuring speach and ,by attempted proxy, thought, are dangerous. I'm probably older than most Anadtech members, and where I grew up during my generation being gay was not only trendy but an advantage at times. One of my first roommates almost 20 years ago was described as bisexual, although even then, the average person actually defining someone by a label like that was so silly it was a moot point. No, this is part of the curse of our Western soundbite talk show generation, where it's fashionable, or even adviseable, to be a 'victim'. Ironically, this takes attention and resources away from real victims, the people you step over on the street every day or choose not to see. The worst victims don't have noisy lobby groups, well funded SIGs, or areas of your campus others must pay for yet can't set foot in.

This reminds me of the current state of Feminism. Karen Straughn talks a lot about this:
http://m.youtube.com/user/girlwriteswhat
Like some totalitarian governments or cultish religious groups. It can get complicated and mixed in with other issues. My friend Sean I referenced above got THE most hassle and drama from ironically people who described themselves as gay, lesbian, and bisexual who tried to put their attitudes on him. Despite what's said on the surface of these 'movements', there's no interest in real fairness or equality. It boils down to selfishness and self-interest. No real discussions or free speach.
Anyway, this is all off topic. And need I say it, totally ghey. Back to the GAYm!
 
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UaVaj

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latest frap (3.5.99) is constantly crashing bf4 so that option is moot.

anyone know how to setup a single hot button for screenshot without using console command?

thanks.
 

skipsneeky2

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LOL i just got kicked and banned for"using m67" in a non explosive Metro round.Are ammo packs randomly turning into nades or did i just kill the admin a couple times and hurt someones feelers?

This is on the Meatgrinder server,i noticed the game jumped from 64 players to 49 in a matter of a few mins as well lol.
 

JTsyo

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I like carrier assault. The boarding at the end gives the team that's down a chance to make a comeback. Having a commander would be good since he can assign squads for offense and defense.

I was surprised there was only 2 M-Coms for the carrier but it's OK. The biggest draw back is the maps. If you don't have a boat, you're in for a long swim. I tried a few times, spawning in helicopters and attacking points but afterwards I would be left on the island. Of the 4 maps, I like the sub pen the best. The one with the crashed airliner is my least favorite.
 

VulgarDisplay

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These new maps are HORRIBLE.

I only play rush and you can safely skip this map pack if you like rush. They put the enemy out of bounds/spawn literally 10 feet behind the bomb sites so you get raped by out of bounds guys. THey also seem to have placed all the bombs out in the open with no cover on a random beach with all the cover out of bounds in the enemy spawn.

To make matters worse with the maps being so shallow behind the bombs they have made them extremely wide around the bombs so there are guys out of bounds literally everywhere in all directions so you can't do anything but die crossing some body of water. From what I saw obliteration, conquest, and rush all suffer from the issues with these maps. There is just no cover and what little there is can be completely destroyed. I hate maps like this, but no skill players who get off on going 1:1 trading kills with random people out in the open seem to love it...

Not my cup of tea.
 

JTsyo

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Nov 18, 2007
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These new maps are HORRIBLE.

I only play rush and you can safely skip this map pack if you like rush. They put the enemy out of bounds/spawn literally 10 feet behind the bomb sites so you get raped by out of bounds guys. THey also seem to have placed all the bombs out in the open with no cover on a random beach with all the cover out of bounds in the enemy spawn.

To make matters worse with the maps being so shallow behind the bombs they have made them extremely wide around the bombs so there are guys out of bounds literally everywhere in all directions so you can't do anything but die crossing some body of water. From what I saw obliteration, conquest, and rush all suffer from the issues with these maps. There is just no cover and what little there is can be completely destroyed. I hate maps like this, but no skill players who get off on going 1:1 trading kills with random people out in the open seem to love it...

Not my cup of tea.

This tends to be true for most BF3 and 4 maps. They are made with one mode in mind and aren't very good in other modes.
 

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These new maps are HORRIBLE.

I only play rush and you can safely skip this map pack if you like rush. They put the enemy out of bounds/spawn literally 10 feet behind the bomb sites so you get raped by out of bounds guys. THey also seem to have placed all the bombs out in the open with no cover on a random beach with all the cover out of bounds in the enemy spawn.

To make matters worse with the maps being so shallow behind the bombs they have made them extremely wide around the bombs so there are guys out of bounds literally everywhere in all directions so you can't do anything but die crossing some body of water. From what I saw obliteration, conquest, and rush all suffer from the issues with these maps. There is just no cover and what little there is can be completely destroyed. I hate maps like this, but no skill players who get off on going 1:1 trading kills with random people out in the open seem to love it...

Not my cup of tea.

If you only play rush, you can basically write off BF4. Davamand, Kharg, and Metro were great rush maps for BF3, but imo, pretty much none of the maps in BF4 (other than Metro I guess) were tailored to rush.

You really should try carrier assault (small, 32p). Kind of a combination between conquest and rush. The conquesty part of it is actually great on the new naval strike maps.
 

DeadFred

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Im liking Large Carrier Assault with 64 players, had some really good and close games this morning. A couple of games I thought we had no chance but kept plugging away at it and ending up winning both. The games last an average of around 15 minutes which is perfect for me, because I can sneak in a game here and there while at work. :)
 

Jeeebus

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Liking this game thus far. I'm a helo guy from my days of Desert Combat, and the helos in BF4 fly very similarly to the little birds/Apaches in that game - so that is a plus.

The sheer amount of anti-air though is somewhat discouraging. Any server over 24 or so people and you've got three people locking onto you from the moment you take off. Would also like the helo killing power beefed up a bit. Killing an attack boat takes forever, and that's with the upgraded cannons.
 

SLU Aequitas

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Jul 13, 2007
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Welcome to BF4...I loved being a chopper pilot in BF2, could still do it in BF3 (just took more skill so the under the radar perk worked), there's no point really in 4. Jets, mid range aa, aa mines...tears of sadness.
 

Fire&Blood

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I don't have many friends in BF4 but today I went through the list and looked at last active times: a week ago, 2 weeks ago, a month ago, two weeks ago, 3 months ago... Yeah even my lucky charm Childs hasn't played for 3 months.

I couldn't wait to play last fall, even more than some others, having missed out on BF3. And despite having so many problems initially (300+ sound loops crashes) I kept trying. I haven't had a single crash for over a month now but I think I'm done. Even with the game working as intended or nearly so, the intended part is disappointing. And naval strike did nothing to alleviate, at least it did nothing for me.

It's a shame really. BF4 is a technical milestone, even with it's bugs and flaws it'a miles ahead of COD. Evidence of AAA money and labor spent is everywhere in the game yet sprinkled with idiotic bugs and game direction decisions.

Game became a chore for me. I have to actually motivate myself to play, like I'm playing a brutal and expensive pay to win, infinite grind MMO and not a FPS. Maybe I'm just burnt out from all the crashes but I'm convinced that if the game ran flawlessly I would have just reached the same conclusion earlier. Conclusion being that the game has everything but soul. Like there was no passion and creative vision leading the creation, just sheets with boxes to check based on charts of consumer studies. BF4 is like a guy flirting with a women at the bar but with 0 practice, just reading lines that research and statistics show as most successful.

I'll probably fire it up once in a while but back in the days leading to the launch. I never ever even dreamed I would reach this point 6 months later.

Again, never owned and barely played BF3 but I think it just keeps going in the wrong direction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc7YUvh3VHA
 

UaVaj

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Liking this game thus far. I'm a helo guy from my days of Desert Combat, and the helos in BF4 fly very similarly to the little birds/Apaches in that game - so that is a plus.

The sheer amount of anti-air though is somewhat discouraging. Any server over 24 or so people and you've got three people locking onto you from the moment you take off. Would also like the helo killing power beefed up a bit. Killing an attack boat takes forever, and that's with the upgraded cannons.

as for 3 people locking onto to you. what did you expect? bird in plain view.

as for taking forever to kill a boat. bf4 is dumb when it comes to stuff like this.

there needs to be a critical area. like a head shot. if you are hitting the pilot area. should only take a couple of hits to kill the pilot leaving the vehicle intact w/ some damage. if you want to take out the vehicle, then continue to gun.
 

DeadFred

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I don't have many friends in BF4 but today I went through the list and looked at last active times: a week ago, 2 weeks ago, a month ago, two weeks ago, 3 months ago... Yeah even my lucky charm Childs hasn't played for 3 months.

I couldn't wait to play last fall, even more than some others, having missed out on BF3. And despite having so many problems initially (300+ sound loops crashes) I kept trying. I haven't had a single crash for over a month now but I think I'm done. Even with the game working as intended or nearly so, the intended part is disappointing. And naval strike did nothing to alleviate, at least it did nothing for me.

It's a shame really. BF4 is a technical milestone, even with it's bugs and flaws it'a miles ahead of COD. Evidence of AAA money and labor spent is everywhere in the game yet sprinkled with idiotic bugs and game direction decisions.

Game became a chore for me. I have to actually motivate myself to play, like I'm playing a brutal and expensive pay to win, infinite grind MMO and not a FPS. Maybe I'm just burnt out from all the crashes but I'm convinced that if the game ran flawlessly I would have just reached the same conclusion earlier. Conclusion being that the game has everything but soul. Like there was no passion and creative vision leading the creation, just sheets with boxes to check based on charts of consumer studies. BF4 is like a guy flirting with a women at the bar but with 0 practice, just reading lines that research and statistics show as most successful.

I'll probably fire it up once in a while but back in the days leading to the launch. I never ever even dreamed I would reach this point 6 months later.

Again, never owned and barely played BF3 but I think it just keeps going in the wrong direction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc7YUvh3VHA

I still love it and play almost daily, but I get where you are coming from. When GTA3 and Max Payne came out I went nuts over those games because they were unlike anything I had ever played before and kept buying pretty much everything Rockstar came out with. But eventually the later versions simply felt like a chore and I was no longer playing just for fun, I still haven't finished either Max Payne 3 or the Ballad of Gay Tony add on for GTA4. Same thing happened for me with the Stalker series, I didnt even get past the first section of Clear Sky. If the fun factor isn't there it's just not going to hold your attention for very long.
 

Jeeebus

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Aug 29, 2006
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The server browser (via Origin I guess) seems completely borked to me. I test it in the morning where I have a few favorites saved, each of which have people in them. Yet when I look for servers via the server browser, 99% of what I see is completely empty (looking at both US and European servers). I've tinkered with filters, I've left them at default, and it's all the same. It's very frustrating. I know there are people playing, yet the browser refuses to show me where everyone is.

Is there an app/browser (as there was in the ole days) separate from Origin that lets me filter through games?
 

VulgarDisplay

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Any time I search for a server I reset the filters and recheck the boxes. Doing this usually fixes my problems. Be sure to check full servers as well.