The anti-Semitic roots of virtually every conspiracy theory.

[Amused]

Judaism is the Kevin Bacon of conspiracy theorist culture. You just have to scratch the surface of any conspiracy theory to find out invariably it's "the Jews" who are allegedly behind it. Children missing? Jews stole them and drank their blood. Recession? Must have been the Rothschild family. Problems on Wall Street? Jews did it. Federal Reserve conspiracies? Definitely Jews. Illuminati? Jews. Media cover-ups? Jews. False flags? Jews. Subliminal messages in Hollywood? Jews. 9/11? Jews. Chemtrails? Jews. Vaccines? Jews, of course.

Unfortunately, your belief system inevitably leads to mass murder.

And this is the punchline: These aren't new or original conspiracies. They're recycled pre WWII Nazi propaganda used to turn Germany against its Jewish population.

And those "all powerful" Jews you stupidly think control everything (just as 1930s Germans thought)? They were slaughtered with relative ease. 6 million of them. The ironic stupidity of it all would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.

You're not "woke." You're a gullible, irrational bigot who feeds their hatred and exposes their stupidity with conspiracy fantasies.

Your belief system makes you a monster. A stupid brain dead conspiracy cult monster led like a sheep to believe absurdities so you'll commit and/or ignore atrocities.

 

[1sikbITCH]

They are just jealous.

 

[Greenman]

Being a conspiracy theory fan, I find this disappointing. I don't believe a single one of them, but I enjoy the mental gymnastics involved in perpetuating them. The flat earther's are hands down the best of them, I've spent a few very enjoyable hours reading their shtick and watching their videos. Absolutely brilliant use of twisted logic and altered facts. We should use the material to teach critical thinking.

 

[mikeymikec]

Any thoughts as to why Jews seem to be at the centre of so many conspiracy theories?

No, I'm not implying any kind of "where there's smoke there's fire" assertion here I'm just curious. I just don't get it.

 

[dainthomas]

Any thoughts as to why Jews seem to be at the centre of so many conspiracy theories?

No, I'm not implying any kind of "where there's smoke there's fire" assertion here I'm just curious. I just don't get it.

Probably because they're among the smallest of ethnic minorities and no one would buy into any of the other ones actually being in charge.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

When you hear our wonderful right wing folk and Trump use the word "globalists", put on your tin foil yamaka and prepare to fend off the coded anti-semitism.

 

[Ottonomous]

I agree but in the age of discrediting the media, established ideals, etc they're taking on a broader purpose

- no tangible or concrete evidence needed for perpetuating beliefs
- fueling fear and persecution complexes
- recruiting tool by ascribing almost all problems to a select group and winning over people
- legitimizing attacks against said group

If you think about it, its a quick and convenient way to create a different interpretation of reality

 

[Victorian Gray]

Any thoughts as to why Jews seem to be at the centre of so many conspiracy theories?

No, I'm not implying any kind of "where there's smoke there's fire" assertion here I'm just curious. I just don't get it.

Because they "killed Christ" and have been hated for it by 'good' Christians ever since.

 

[dainthomas]

Because they "killed Christ" and have been hated for it by 'good' Christians ever since.

Technically it was the Romans. But it's a dumb thing anyway.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Technically it was the Romans. But it's a dumb thing anyway.

To Christians throughout history, it was the Jews.

Hell, it was 1965 when the Catholic Church finally decided that modern day Jews had no responsibility for the crucifixion and acknowledged that most Jews at the time really weren't collectively responsible either.

I repeat, that was in 1965.

 

[momeNt]

The most complete conspiracy theory, in my opinion, is that of the Reptilian master race, which was popularized by David Icke, who is an anti-semite, but oddly enough the Reptilian theory is not really anti-semitic.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Because they "killed Christ" and have been hated for it by 'good' Christians ever since.

Well this doesn't make any sense. Without the sacrificial death of Christ, redemption would have been impossible and Christ coming to Earth would have been for nothing.

I've heard this sentiment thrown around quite a bit; never by an actual Christian.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Well this doesn't make any sense. Without the sacrificial death of Christ, redemption would have been impossible and Christ coming to Earth would have been for nothing.

I've heard this sentiment thrown around quite a bit; never by an actual Christian.

Then you need to learn some history.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Well this doesn't make any sense.

Which part, where he was killed or where he rose from the dead?

 

[Moonbeam]

All hate is self hate.

 

[WelshBloke]

All hate is self hate.

Now that's just not true.

 

[Vic]

Now that's just not true.

It has to be true. Because while reality is real (IMO at least), your entire experience of your reality takes place entirely inside your head. So any emotion you feel towards an external object is actually a reaction to what that object means to you.

 

[Vic]

Well this doesn't make any sense. Without the sacrificial death of Christ, redemption would have been impossible and Christ coming to Earth would have been for nothing.

I've heard this sentiment thrown around quite a bit; never by an actual Christian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_deicide

 

[FIVR]

Anti-Semitism is actually has a longer history than the US itself. The root of Christian anti-Semitism are based on the history of the merchant class in Europe and the prohibition of Usury by the christian church. Christians were prohibited from lending money with interest and Jewish merchants who did not believe in such prohibitions were glad to pick up the business. The results where the Jewish merchants often became very wealthy while the christians did not. The christians also were not prohibited from borrowing from the Jews, which resulted in many christians becoming heavily indebted to jews and they would often decide they might rather gather up a mob and go kill the person they owed money too instead of pay them back. This story of wealthy jews surrounded by poor, angry christians who blamed the jews for their wealth has played out in numerous european nations over numerous centuries.

The truth is that the jews, being well-traveled and wealthy, were much better educated and generally were more industrious than the christian peasants and that is why they continued to have more success. It's basically the same problem we have today with "Coastal city Libs" vs Trump country. Although in America it's not just Jews, there are many other immigrant cultures who are much better educated than the native christian population.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Well this doesn't make any sense. Without the sacrificial death of Christ, redemption would have been impossible and Christ coming to Earth would have been for nothing.

I've heard this sentiment thrown around quite a bit; never by an actual Christian.

Because most Jews don't believe Christ as the messiah. Many Christians believe Jesus is the only way to heaven, so it's a double edge sword. They hate Jews because they don't believe that Jesus is God and that they "killed" him. Yet half of Christians support Israel because it is critical for fulfilling end-time prophecy.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Any thoughts as to why Jews seem to be at the centre of so many conspiracy theories?

No, I'm not implying any kind of "where there's smoke there's fire" assertion here I'm just curious. I just don't get it.

- I think Jews are the perpetual scapegoats for the following reasons (through history, although this is still somewhat applicable today). I'm just spitballin here so pardon the details:

Judaism is likely, due to it's age, a faith that is linked to an ethnicity. There isn't a tradition to go out and convert openly and so they appear very insular and secretive from the outside looking in. People inevitably fear what they do not understand.

As a result of this distrust, other "secret societies" such as trade unions excluded Jews due to potential conflicting loyalties (to the union/the dominant religion) and we're pushed into less "honorable" roles in society such as jewelry or money lending, where they formed their own networks and became successful (to the chagrin of those that excluded them to begin with). This put them square in the bullseye when the odd popular uprising or angry mob took to the streets (aka kill the guys with money/the guy you owe money to).

Similar cycles have put many Jewish folk into previously "seedy" or "unchristian" roles in the US, such as media/Hollywood/banking/finance which, as the social landscape changed away from industry and trade to service and entertainment puts Jews disproportionately at the forefront of public perception.

TLDR: Jews were the nerdy kid that got beat up all the way through college, got out into the real word, dropped some plates and got shredded and (in terms of perception) are pulling in all the sweet poon while everyone else peaked in their sophomore year of Junior high.

So now everyone is jealous and they hate them (not understanding that the majority of Jewish families are solidly middle class folk like everyone else).

 

[digiram]

The most complete conspiracy theory, in my opinion, is that of the Reptilian master race, which was popularized by David Icke, who is an anti-semite, but oddly enough the Reptilian theory is not really anti-semitic.

WTF?? They thought the 80's TV series V was real life??

 

[mikeymikec]

All hate is self hate.

It has to be true. Because while reality is real (IMO at least), your entire experience of your reality takes place entirely inside your head. So any emotion you feel towards an external object is actually a reaction to what that object means to you.

So when someone shoves poo through your letterbox, it's not them you hate for doing it, it's yourself? IMO this is completely absurd.

 

[mikeymikec]

- I think Jews are the perpetual scapegoats for the following reasons (through history, although this is still somewhat applicable today). I'm just spitballin here so pardon the details:

Judaism is likely, due to it's age, a faith that is linked to an ethnicity. There isn't a tradition to go out and convert openly and so they appear very insular and secretive from the outside looking in. People inevitably fear what they do not understand.

As a result of this distrust, other "secret societies" such as trade unions excluded Jews due to potential conflicting loyalties (to the union/the dominant religion) and we're pushed into less "honorable" roles in society such as jewelry or money lending, where they formed their own networks and became successful (to the chagrin of those that excluded them to begin with). This put them square in the bullseye when the odd popular uprising or angry mob took to the streets (aka kill the guys with money/the guy you owe money to).

Similar cycles have put many Jewish folk into previously "seedy" or "unchristian" roles in the US, such as media/Hollywood/banking/finance which, as the social landscape changed away from industry and trade to service and entertainment puts Jews disproportionately at the forefront of public perception.

TLDR: Jews were the nerdy kid that got beat up all the way through college, got out into the real word, dropped some plates and got shredded and (in terms of perception) are pulling in all the sweet poon while everyone else peaked in their sophomore year of Junior high.

So now everyone is jealous and they hate them (not understanding that the majority of Jewish families are solidly middle class folk like everyone else).

Virtually all racial/ethnic/'of a collective' hatred is hand-me-down hatred? I suspect that's true.

When a person is in the market for something to blame for their lot in life, they may not realise they're shopping around for the most convenient thing to fixate on, but whatever opinions they consume in their environment, and because hate of Judaism has been sufficiently pervasive, they're still a target? I wonder if hatred of Judaism is a convenient one because Jewish communities aren't sufficiently widespread (at least in my experience): it means that someone who hates Jews is unlikely to be called out for actively hating Jews in say the street, so they can stir that pot in seclusion.

Hatred of immigrants in my experience mostly happens amongst people who have no personal reason to hate such people, and the Brexit referendum results broken down into regions overwhelmingly pointed at rural areas voting for Brexit despite having the least exposure to immigrants.

Before say the civil rights movement era, I wonder if hatred of 'foreign collectives' was a phenomenon that most occurred in isolation to the individual because fear of 'foreign collectives' was basically accepted as it was probably seen as a survival trait. In that form it could have died out with steady exposure to foreigners, but the media consumed by the masses was a new vector for infection as it only transmitted the ideas and not the personal exposure to people. I also wonder whether my idea about 'stirring the pot in seclusion' found another vector for transmission and infection through the Internet.

 

[Moonbeam]

Now that's just not true.

But just imagine for a moment that I am right. Could you see in that case why the problem never gets fixed. Who fixes a problem if the solution were one dismissed by it's apparent unlikeliness? Imagine the complications and magnitude to a problem that creates a will so self destruction that is the last thing anybody will ever want to see. I can only tell you want I know to be true. I can't say I don't envy your blindness to it.

Wrote this yesterday but failed to hit Post Reply.