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f1sherman

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Gloomy said:
Mantle patch delayed until February.

https://twitter.com/antal120/status/427045152654249984/photo/1

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2 man*months they've said... 2 man*months...

I said no wai. It's a matter of common sense really:
You don't get MORE of EVERYTHING, by doing LESS of almost EVERYTHING.

Bare in mind that this is high production AAA title, a Mantle poster-child, proof-of-concept and as such backed by full AMD/EA/DICE support.
What about little guys using Mantle? What about having less expertise than EA/DICE, and not having 24/7 AMD (and $$) support.

So much about ease of deployment and posing threat to DX.
 
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itsmydamnation

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so care to explain 2nd assault then, or does that not conform to your bias. your post contains nothing to show CAUSATION. its just hyperbole.......


Bf4 has problems, EA took a very public stance. BF4 is a case of it happens when it happens, for almost everything.
 
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f1sherman

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itsmydamnation said:
Bf4 has problems, EA took a very public stance. BF4 is a case of it happens when it happens, for almost everything.
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It happens when it happens...

Where did you hear that?

Call of Duty already got its furry german shepherd!!!
EA is not Blizzard/Valve and BF4 is not Titan/Half Life 3

Its done when its done :rolleyes:
 
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desprado

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f1sherman said:
2 man*months they've said... 2 man*months...

I said no wai. It's a matter of common sense really:
You don't get MORE of EVERYTHING, by doing LESS of almost EVERYTHING.

Bare in mind that this is high production AAA title, a Mantle poster-child, proof-of-concept and as such backed by full AMD/EA/DICE support.
What about little guys using Mantle? What about having less expertise than EA/DICE, and not having 24/7 AMD (and $$) support.

So much about ease of deployment and posing threat to DX.
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It is just marketing and they really mean 4 to 5 months not 2 months.Told before AMD is no1 in sweat talks and PR slides and Nvidia is no 1 in getting job done.
 
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sontin

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It was quite clear that Mantle was not even close to be ready because AMD wasn't able to show a demo at the Hawaii event.
 
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Obviously all AMD's fault and nothing to do with the fact that BF4 is a mess. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be surprised if Thief launches with it first at this rate.
 
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marinlik

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Gloomy said:
Mantle patch delayed until February.

https://twitter.com/antal120/status/427045152654249984/photo/1

I'm dead. AMD killed me.
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It may be delayed. But that is an extremely uncredible source. You can call the support people "EA representative" but that doesn't give them anymore knowledge. I've contacted that support many times, and you can get a different answer from each different person you talk too. As I said, Mantle can very well be delayed. But what an EA support person sais should not be taken as a fact, or anything close to it.
 
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2 months grew to 5+ months.

They are probably polishing Battlefield 4 way more than they originally thought, but of course they aimed for +45% in some systems. So tweak, tweak, tweak until they optimized the game for that specific hardware so it will run +45% on that system. Battlefield 4 is Mantle`s poster child you know.

Atleast they have silenced the drama from reviewers that would have occured if they just release Mantle on BF4 with normal development time. That won`t reveal itself until the other games comes with Mantle. But of course, they dodged the reviewer bullet with BF4. Fingers crossed nobody will notice (the lack of similar improvements) on future games.

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AMD just wants you all to think that it'll be out "any day now" so that you'll all keep buying their new video cards.
 
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sontin

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DarkKnightDude said:
Obviously all AMD's fault and nothing to do with the fact that BF4 is a mess. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be surprised if Thief launches with it first at this rate.
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BF4 has been released on the next gen consoles.
According to AMD Mantle is very close to their (low-level) API and makes porting games from consoles to the PC much easier.

So, why needs it more than 5 month to release the Mantle patch?
 
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Shivansps

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Easy, because that is plain no true, AMD means you can do the same things, anyone that has ever ported something from OGL to ES or DX to OGL, will known what that means, but there is nothing easy about it.
 
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Erenhardt

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o_O WOW. Something is delayed in gaming industry? Can't be! Lets mass panic and act like it never happened before!

The end is comming!
 
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Erenhardt said:
o_O WOW. Something is delayed in gaming industry? Can't be! Lets mass panic and act like it never happened before!

The end is comming!
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Lol I am still waiting on SC Ghost.
 
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desprado

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sontin said:
It was quite clear that Mantle was not even close to be ready because AMD wasn't able to show a demo at the Hawaii event.
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Post of the day.Spot on.2 months is just BS and i really dont believe that bs statement that Mantle is 1 or 2 man works.

But i have to say AMD has done Really Amazing Job with BF4 dam and R9 290 CF is only 10 to 20% slower than my GTX 780 3 way SLI

Will be looking forward with some more DICE and Frostbite engine 3 games.
 
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i hope the ones give nvidia [redacted] for ac bl physx implemetation. its unplayable with physx on. nvidias fault?
and since when is ea support a source for information. their "support" is the worse ive ever dealt with.

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sontin said:
It was quite clear that Mantle was not even close to be ready because AMD wasn't able to show a demo at the Hawaii event.
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Time for a reality check here.
The Hawaii event was at the end of Sept.
Johan Andersson talked about Mantle, but they had just started working with it.
I don't think AMD ever said 2 man months, a developer said that,
so that is not AMD hype.
Everything that has me hooked has come from the developers. Not from AMD.

They also said, way back then..."Game launches Oct. 29.
Mantle update will come out in December" So we have only had a one month delay so far.

AMD provided the API, they aren't writing the game code.
So how is this on them?
And not a single person on this board knows what is going on at EA or Dice, so how can you guys be
pointing fingers when you have zero information?
So far, this is just an unsubstantiated rumor.
 
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sontin

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You're right. It's now 4 months since Hawaii and Mantle in BF4 stillt exists only on powerpoint slides.
 
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