The 9th Circle of Hell is for Traitors

BonzaiDuck

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"Cape Fear" was re-made over its original, casting the original actors in different roles: Gregory Peck, Robert Mitchum. Max Cady was given a bigger-than-life assist in Robert de Niro. And probably -- since early 2017 -- Cady script-lines rose to my attention with this -- a scene on a houseboat during a storm with de Niro's character violently kicking Nick Nolte as a lawyer:

" I'm Virgil and I'm guidin' you through the gates of Hell. We are now in the Ninth Circle, the Circle of Traitors. Traitors to country! Traitors to fellow man! Traitors to GOD! You, sir, are charged with betrayin' the principles of all three! . . . . "

I received this news-article link today. It is most likely true, but needs some cross-verification. You would also wonder why it hasn't been blown up in our faces by the major news channels. But for decades, retired KGB were quoted here and there in the page 2 news-brief column of print media.

Trump's KGB recruitment as a Russian asset

"Russia? If you're listening . . . "

There is enough pain and chaos in the country that I am outraged nothing is moving forward to remove Trump. Felon! Criminal! Liar! Rapist! Traitor! Trai--tor!!

Somebody should march Drumpf and Muks out to a brick wall and execute them in front of their families at high-noon on Christmas Day, to celebrate being close to Jesus.

How can this country just stand by and let this play out? It SHOULD only play out one way. But HOW will it REALLY play out?
 
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biostud

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I've said it before you'll need to go full McCarthy in the US, and purge the foreign influence.
 
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trenchfoot

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"Cape Fear" was re-made over its original, casting the original actors in different roles: Gregory Peck, Robert Mitchum. Max Cady was given a bigger-than-life assist in Robert de Niro. And probably -- since early 2017 -- Cady script-lines rose to my attention with this -- a scene on a houseboat during a storm with de Niro's character violently kicking Nick Nolte as a lawyer:

" I'm Virgil and I'm guidin' you through the gates of Hell. We are now in the Ninth Circle, the Circle of Traitors. Traitors to country! Traitors to fellow man! Traitors to GOD! You, sir, are charged with betrayin' the principles of all three! . . . . "

I received this news-article link today. It is most likely true, but needs some cross-verification. You would also wonder why it hasn't been blown up in our faces by the major news channels. But for decades, retired KGB were quoted here and there in the page 2 news-brief column of print media.

Trump's KGB recruitment as a Russian asset

"Russia? If you're listening . . . "

There is enough pain and chaos in the country that I am outraged nothing is moving forward to remove Trump. Felon! Criminal! Liar! Rapist! Traitor! Trai--tor!!

Somebody should march Drumpf and Muks out to a brick wall and execute them in front of their families at high-noon on Christmas Day, to celebrate being close to Jesus.

How can this country just stand by and let this play out? It SHOULD only play out one way. But HOW will it REALLY play out?

Trump's worst enemy is himself. That played itself out when he lost to Biden in 2020. What went wrong during Bidens term was how forgetful those folks who gave Biden his victory were and how easily fooled they were to listen to the lies and disinformation being blasted at them 24/7 with not much rebutting and refuting going on from the Biden/Harris camp.

It's actually up to Trump's cult following to walk away from him and expose him for how totally defenseless he is without his racists, his right wing religious political activists, his isolationist nationalists, his militias, his J6 insurrectionists and his scared stiff flunkies in Congress. Trump has built his castle on quicksand that's exclusively being kept afloat up by bubbles of lies and facades. That's a nice fat target for the liberals to aim at seeing as if Trump will once again expose it with his own self-incriminating mouth and mouthpieces from his handpicked cabinet of unqualified sycophants.
 

Jaskalas

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There is enough pain and chaos in the country that I am outraged nothing is moving forward to remove Trump. Felon! Criminal! Liar! Rapist! Traitor! Trai--tor!!
Trump is to MAGA as Jesus is to Christianity.

A political party IS NOT what leads this country. It is a full fledged religion of lies, deceit, propaganda.
It would be like telling North Koreans to get rid of the Kim family. Actually, that'd probably be easier given how long they've been in power.
MAGA is all new, relatively speaking, the founders, the motives, the drive is all fresh. The passion and self idolizing among the worshipers is all fully realized and will be for the rest of their lives.

The only thing that'll part MAGA from treason... is the end of those lives.
We'll just have to decide how much treason we can live with, before we've had our fill of MAGA. One way or another.
 

Moonbeam

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I'm so mad at Trump I leveled a Barbarian. I've never had better DPS. I spend a lot of my time in the dungeons of Hell these days. If you can't beat um join um. I have a deep voice and an astounding War Cry.
 

BonzaiDuck

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This is Monday morning. The media has yet to say anything about this rumor of Donald's history as a Russian intelligence asset.

But everything he is doing -- reported with alarm this morning in the media -- is totally consistent with the worst nightmare of desires that would be natural for Putin and his inner circle.

Again, I explain recalling a print-media news brief perhaps 20 years ago with a KGB retiree passing on a Russian prediction that America would balkanize and disintegrate, and all consistent with known Russian psy-war ops highlighted since Trump first took office in 2017. That is, such a prediction would parallel Russian intentions that are deliberate.

How would I have ever imagined sudden worries about my next CSRS retirement deposit appearing in my bank account at the beginning of the month? Yet, US Representatives are voicing their constituents' concerns about Social Security and the pressure to fire federal employees -- most of whom are now covered by the FERS system, but all CSRS and FERS administered by OPM.

Meanwhile there are serious worries about inflation and the economy. What would be better for Putin that the American economy goes into total meltdown? CNN reported today the Google statistics showing a 123% increase in recent days and weeks for queries about inflation. Biden and Harris had it under control, but it had already begun to rise again prior to all these newer horror stories.
 
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mikeymikec

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Trump's been a suspected Russian asset for nearly ten years, what difference does this story make?

Let's say that it's true. Let's say that undeniable supporting proof comes out, say a money trail, recordings, flight numbers of Trump heading off to see his handler, a confession from his handler, etc. The GQP would do fuck-all about it. The best they might do is keep the evidence as an ace to play against Trump when they want him out. It's possible that this happened nearly a decade ago already and the card hasn't been played yet.

Alternatively, it's false: He's just a useful tool. The story is more Russian psyops, and it helps stoke the fires of chaos in the US as both sides become increasingly certain of his guilt/innocence. Maybe a chance for the Russians to dig their claws deeper into the US in the chaos.

I see no reason to believe anything that the Russians serve up, even if this accuser ends up getting defenestrated. Personally I think this story is horse shit. Why reveal this now? What's in it for the accuser? What's the risk and is the reward worth it?

Trump's a traitor regardless of this story, and I base that assertion on all the shit he was being investigated for *that we know of*.
 
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fskimospy

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Trump's been a suspected Russian asset for nearly ten years, what difference does this story make?

Let's say that it's true. Let's say that undeniable supporting proof comes out, say a money trail, recordings, flight numbers of Trump heading off to see his handler, a confession from his handler, etc. The GQP would do fuck-all about it. The best they might do is keep the evidence as an ace to play against Trump when they want him out. It's possible that this happened nearly a decade ago already and the card hasn't been played yet.

Alternatively, it's false: He's just a useful tool. The story is more Russian psyops, and it helps stoke the fires of chaos in the US as both sides become increasingly certain of his guilt/innocence. Maybe a chance for the Russians to dig their claws deeper into the US in the chaos.

I see no reason to believe anything that the Russians serve up, even if this accuser ends up getting defenestrated. Personally I think this story is horse shit. Why reveal this now? What's in it for the accuser? What's the risk and is the reward worth it?

Trump's a traitor regardless of this story, and I base that assertion on all the shit he was being investigated for *that we know of*.
It's also basically beside the point. Let's give Trump the benefit of every doubt and say he's not a Russian asset. If he WERE an asset what exactly would he be doing differently?