The 5G Nutters Have Done It Again

Iron Woode

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These people are really messed up but this latest gaff is hilariously ironic.

They protest 5G "radiation" as dangerous but they are buying jewelry and trinkets to protect themselves from that "radiation" that actually gives off ionizing radiation.

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Several brands of jewellery and accessories claiming to protect the wearer from 5G wireless technology give off harmful radiation, the Dutch nuclear safety authority has warned.

Ten anti-5G products, including necklaces, bracelets and sleep masks being sold as ‘quantum pendant’ and ’negative ion,’ were found to contain radioactive materials that can pose a danger if worn long-term, the group said.


“The consumer products tested contain radioactive materials and therefore continuously emit ionizing radiation, thereby exposing the wearer,” the Authority for Nuclear Safety and Radiation Protection said in a statement. “If you own a product that claims to have a ‘negative ion effect’, store it away safely and contact the ANVS.”


Two large-scale studies on the effects of 5G radio waves have found no evidence of harmful effects on humans. Cell towers use a form of non-ionizing radiation, just like microwaves, FM radio waves, visible light rays and heat, which means they do not damage DNA, according to the American Cancer Society.


Conspiracy theories linking the spread of coronavirus to 5G technology led to more than 30 incidents of arson or vandalism of mobile towers and close to 80 acts of harassments against technicians in England last year, according to the British government.


A “not insignificant minority of Canadians” believe in a connection between 5G networks and coronavirus, according to a CSIS report from May 2020 obtained by Global. “In Canada, physical opposition to 5G infrastructure is significantly less when compared to recent actions in the U.K. and Europe,” said the report.

The Dutch advisory includes items like an “Energy Armor” sleeping mask and a bracelet for children dubbed “Magnetix Smiley Kids.”


ANVS announced a ban on the products and asked those who own the products to store it away safely, contact ANVS and await instructions on how to safely return them.


“The sellers in the Netherlands known to the ANVS have been told that the sale is prohibited and must be stopped immediately, and that they must inform their customers about this.”


Despite their claims, anti-5G products are typically baseless. The full list of products including images can be found on the ANVS website .
 

brianmanahan

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What radioactive material do these things contain?

per the netherlands RIVM report (https://www.rivm.nl/bibliotheek/rapporten/2021-0239.pdf, translated via the googles):

The ANVS inspection has been pointed out by a private individual to the existence of these products and a number of American YouTube videos showing that the 'negative ions' are generated by radioactive substances in the products. The ANVS Inspectorate has asked RIVM to find out whether a selection of 10 'negative ion' consumer products actually contains radioactivity, and if so, which substances and how much. We determined this using high-resolution gamma spectrometry. All products were found to contain radioactive substances from the natural decay series. These are substances that decay slowly and in several steps to a stable material. These radioactive substances and their decay products are called natural series because they have been in the soil since the creation of the earth. Decay products from the thorium-232 (Th-232) series were found in all products, and 6 of the 10 products also contained nuclides from the uranium-238 (U-238) and uranium-235 (U-235) series. The largest contribution came from the daughter nuclides of the Th-232 series: the activity concentration was between 6.4 ± 0.6 and 74 ± 8 Bq g-1 and the total activity between 5.9 ± 0.4 and 780 ± 80 Bq per object.

In addition, the local equivalent skin dose was calculated, a measure for deterministic effects such as skin burns. Based on the assumption that the products are worn 24 hours a day, this resulted in a local equivalent skin dose between 12 and 50 mSv per year for the different products. The dose limit for the local equivalent skin dose is 50 mSv per year. By way of comparison: the skin dose as a result of the average radiation exposure in the Netherlands is 2.6 mSv per year.

The amount of radioactivity in the products tested is above the release limit of 1 Bq g-1 for Th-232. More importantly, the calculated local equivalent skin dose is close to or even at the skin dose limit. This means that local deterministic effects (eg skin burns) cannot be ruled out by wearing these products.
 
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Captante

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Claiming that high-frequency cell tower transmissions can potentially interfere with aircraft navigation systems is completely plausible as opposed to utter nonsense like these pendants.

Some folks are just so freaking stupid its tough to accept. :confused:
 

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5G doesn't affect aviation in other countries. I don't know what's so special about US airspace that it would affect it here.
 

MrSquished

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5G doesn't affect aviation in other countries. I don't know what's so special about US airspace that it would affect it here.

Probably has something to do with the C-Band frequencies the FAA uses and the carriers will now be using.
 
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Captante

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5G doesn't affect aviation in other countries. I don't know what's so special about US airspace that it would affect it here.


Difficult to say exactly what it does considering how little of the technology is actually in use over wide areas.

Considering the potential downside I would feel better taking the cautious route. (especially since seat-of-the pants 4g and 5g "feel" almost exactly the same speed wise IME)
 

Scarpozzi

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Claiming that high-frequency cell tower transmissions can potentially interfere with aircraft navigation systems is completely plausible as opposed to utter nonsense like these pendants.

Some folks are just so freaking stupid its tough to accept. :confused:
Then we have the cellphone companies claiming there IS no risk of 5G signals causing interference and that the witch hunt is going to delay their tower installations. I would expect 5G towers to be rated at a particular wattage just like any other radio transmitter....the FCC and FAA should already have this worked out, but I suppose Biden's team has only had months to figure it out since it wasn't done under the last administration when 5G was rolling out.
 
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Yeah I was thinking this might be the topic. Strange how the exact same aircraft work just fine in other countries alongside 5g

 

MrSquished

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Then we have the cellphone companies claiming there IS no risk of 5G signals causing interference and that the witch hunt is going to delay their tower installations. I would expect 5G towers to be rated at a particular wattage just like any other radio transmitter....the FCC and FAA should already have this worked out, but I suppose Biden's team has only had months to figure it out since it wasn't done under the last administration when 5G was rolling out.
It's not 5G that is the problem, 5G is deployed all over the place already. It's the C band spectrum that will be used by mostly Verizon and AT&T for a lot of their 5G rollout that's the issue from what I understand. It's the frequency it seems like that's The issue. Or at least part of the issue.
 

Spacehead

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Is it the proximity of the tower to the airport that's the problem? I thought i heard in the US towers can be placed close to airports & other countries have set limits on proximity. Too close & it can interfere with the altimeters.
 
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Scarpozzi

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It's not 5G that is the problem, 5G is deployed all over the place already. It's the C band spectrum that will be used by mostly Verizon and AT&T for a lot of their 5G rollout that's the issue from what I understand. It's the frequency it seems like that's The issue. Or at least part of the issue.
What spacehead said is the workaround. The problem is that certain radar altimeters get screwed up by the signals. Keeping them away from runway approaches is critical until more real world testing can be done.
 
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MrSquished

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What spacehead said is the workaround. The problem is that certain radar altimeters get screwed up by the signals. Keeping them away from runway approaches is critical until more real world testing can be done.
I never said not to test what is going on. The point is that it's not the actual 5G technology, it's the frequencies. As someone pointed out 5G is not a problem in Europe. There is a difference.