The $20M Super Bowl Ad about Jesus (He Gets Us).

[Captante]

Perception is reality rather than vice versa. That is not an unpopular view.

This very idea is a prime example of human arrogance.... in fact the VAST majority of "reality" we're 100% unaware of.

If our senses didn't have "filters" to prevent us being constantly overwhelmed by all the "reality" going on around us at any given moment we would be completely unable to function.

And the fact that simply being conscious DOES NOT dictate what's "real" is a good thing! I'd prefer not to have MY reality dictated by the "perception-level" of a gnat or a cockroach! (or an ant!)

Or is it that only "human" perception rates in governing access to what's "real"? (how sad would that be?

Strive to be "both terrified AND re-assured".

 

[DAPUNISHER]

12 step programs will probably recruit more followers than expensive ad campaigns. Every adult I have met, that didn't believe in gods, found that faith via those programs.While they may not be required to accept jeebus, that is where most end up.

I don't know why they call themselves Christians anymore. Every time I have discussed their big book of fairy tales with one, it turns out they made up their own god. Complete fan fiction that doesn't adhere to what's in the book.

 

[Captante]

Every time I have discussed their big book of fairy tales with one, it turns out they made up their own god.

You mean just like EVERY other human religion?

I wonder if ants have a "god" too lol?

 

[Ajay]

$20m for a super bowl ad about Jesus. But, it doesn't stop there. Its going to evolve into a $1b Christian ad campaign over the next 3 years.

Imagine what they could do with that money. The people they could help. The less fortunate, and the homeless. The children who go to bed starving every night.

Judas felt the same way: John 12:1 ff

1 Jesus, therefore, six days before the Passover, came to Bethany where Lazarus was, whom Jesus had raised from the dead.
2 So they made Him a supper there, and Martha was serving; but Lazarus was one of those reclining at the table with Him.
3 Mary then took a pound of very costly perfume of pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped His feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
4 But Judas Iscariot, one of His disciples, who was intending to betray Him, said,
5 “Why was this perfume not sold for three hundred denarii and given to poor people?”
6 Now he said this, not because he was concerned about the poor, but because he was a thief, and as he had the money box, he used to pilfer what was put into it.
7 Therefore Jesus said, “Let her alone, so that she may keep it for the day of My burial.
8 “For you always have the poor with you, but you do not always have Me.”

 

[Ajay]

Hmm, guess this thread should have been in P&N.

 

[Charmonium]

But that's Quantum Statistical Mechanics for you. Hidden variables my muscular buttucks. Or something...

As of the current date, I think the whole ideas of such variables has been laid to rest.

But that's the work of the experimentalists. Before them John Stewart Bell penned the eponymous theorem.

It stated that in any universe described by Quantum Mechanics must give up either locality or counter-factual definiteness. I mean have you ever heard such nonsense words used so seriously? Pretty sure not.

Bell's theorem - Scholarpedia

www.scholarpedia.org

 

[DAPUNISHER]

As of the current date, I think the whole ideas of such variables has been laid to rest.

But that's the work of the experimentalists. Before them John Stewart Bell penned the eponymous theorem.

It stated that in any universe described by Quantum Mechanics must give up either locality or counter-factual definiteness. I mean have you ever heard such nonsense words used so seriously? Pretty sure not.

Bell's theorem - Scholarpedia

www.scholarpedia.org

Which is why I said the equivalent of my ass there are.

As to hearing "such nonsense words used so seriously." Yes, yes I have. Every time some religious person starts talking about gods, demons, angels, heavens, hells, etc. Reading the many many posts by that crowd on r/HCA, as they or their loved ones died of covid. It was usually spelled angles though. I read other nonsense, like they are all prayer warriors. Which may be the dumbest title ever. They lost every battle, those prayer warriors, that's for certain. It was "keep it up! It's working!" but it was always the dead cat bounce. Strangely enough, their god and angles never saved the sick relative/them. Then I read even worse nonsense said seriously; That they won their ultimate victory by dying. They didn't just get tired of winning, they got dead tired of it.

 

[Ken g6]

Every time I have discussed their big book of fairy tales with one, it turns out they made up their own god.

You mean just like EVERY other human religion?

I wonder if ants have a "god" too lol?

Actually, many human religions didn't make up their own god. They decided their leader (e.g. an Egyptian pharaoh) was a god.

Maybe ants have a god-queen, a mother-creator who satisfies their every desire with her pheromones.

 

[UNCjigga]

This movie endures and Carlin is masterfully utilized:

 

[iRONic]

Organized religion is the downfall of mankind.

It sure has pushed us in the right direction.

 

[iRONic]

I’ve seen a few of these ads in the past couple months, and as an atheist they have a good message, but seem to go against everything the conservative right wants/believe in.

True that. They started running them here in central Kentucky last year just before Christmas.

 

[Charmonium]

True that. They started running them here in central Kentucky last year just before Christmas.

How I think of central Kentucky (and keep in mind, that I'm originally from AL).

I guess they felt that xmas had become too commercialized and they weren't getting their cut.

 

[Charmonium]

This very idea is a prime example of human arrogance.... in fact the VAST majority of "reality" we're 100% unaware of.

If you had the following fact in mind, respect. If not, respect.

Dark energy is nearly 2/3 of the universe and dark matter is almost 1/3. If you add back in the appropriate fraction for what we can directly see of the universe, that only amounts to maybe 3-4%

Actually, many human religions didn't make up their own god. They decided their leader (e.g. an Egyptian pharaoh) was a god.

Had to look this up and in so doing, saved my butt once again.

The first god-king pharaoh was Narmer/Menes in 3100 BCE. And that was because he had just conquered Upper Egypt (See note). The total number of "actual" gods was well over 1000.

 

[Charmonium]

Forgot the note. No great loss but you might be curious.

Upper Egypt is topographically at a higher elevation but the South of lower Egypt

 

[Charmonium]

why do I smoke to get high. I can never remember.

Ruh?

double post

 

[HomerJS]

I’ve seen a few of these ads in the past couple months, and as an atheist they have a good message, but seem to go against everything the conservative right wants/believe in.

They have something in common. Conservatives go against everything they claim to believe in as well

2 exceptions. Judges and tax cuts for the rich

 

[Mai72]

I was getting gas a few days ago and struck up a quick conversation with this lady. At the end, she told me that Jesus is coming back and the end is coming.

It all happened so fast. I was thinking you people have been saying this for thousands of years. The Milerites is a great example. Followers gave away their homes, livestock, money.

 

[Moonbeam]

The religious and the non religious debate over a god that does not exist because they either believe in or doubt the existence of some entity or being that exists out there. But the reason that religions exist is because of the fact that the human being is capable of an alteration of the nature of ones conscious awareness. Owing to the use of language we have a capacity to think and to put labels on things. All these meanings as they become crystalized as habituated memories incorporate emotional experiences as a product of our personal experiences.

The religious derive a sense of pleasure and safety kowtowing to the beliefs of the flock whereas those disappointed by the promises of gods develop a sense of derision at being taken in.

Meanwhile, hidden from the experience of those trapped in the duality of language, mystics or self investigators or whatever words the use of language popular at the time assigns to them, keep having some aha moment that transforms their perception of being. The result is a feeling of wholeness and joy.

So religions, in my opinion, are just the products, systems, or tools of vastly wealthy people who specifically designed them with the intention of sharing their wealth.

Of course these metnodologies will be captured by those in the greatest poverty as a means for you to share with them.

 

[FelixDeCat]

We need more religion. Right now we have too much Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

[VirtualLarry]

We need more religion.

The Satanic Temple - Official Website

The Satanic Temple encourages benevolence and empathy, rejects tyrannical authority, advocates practical common sense, opposes injustice, and undertakes noble pursuits. The Satanic Temple uses Satan as a symbol of the eternal rebel fighting arbitrary authority and oppressive social norms.

thesatanictemple.com

 

[MrSquished]

We need more religion. Right now we have too much Sodom and Gomorrah.

You probably watch the weirdest porn out of anybody here - that's how it usually works. The most religion pushers are the weirdo lovers.

 

[snoopy7548]

You probably watch the weirdest porn out of anybody here - that's how it usually works. The most religion pushers are the weirdo lovers.

Ahem...

 

[MrSquished]

Ahem...

Oh shit, does someone else have the title already?

 

[nakedfrog]

We need more religion. Right now we have too much Sodom and Gomorrah.

Christian Nationalists fuck off.

 

[Pohemi]

We need more religion. Right now we have too much Sodom and Gomorrah.

What the entire world needs is for that kind of thinking to die out. Including the jerks pushing it.