The 2 reasons why guitar player from Korn Head and Munky suck

[Mark]

Head's Pedal's
Munky's Pedal's

 

[divinemartyr]

I don't quite get the gist of your post, are you saying that they suck because they use so many effects? I've heard several guitar players who are quite capable of making excellent music that use as many, if not more processors to enhance their music. Please clarify a bit more.

dm

 

[Suicidal]

Yah, please elaborate. I'm a guitar player myself and I don't really use pedal effects, i'm more of a rack type guy... There's no rules, you use as many effects as you need. I think Korn sucks myself but not because of the equipment they use.

 

[CoolTechie]

hahah you dork... you say they suck becuase they use alot of pedals?.. i guess everyone who uses alot of pedals suck then.. lets see.. steve vai, dimebag, van halen and they all use tons of pedals u dink ... obv head and munky arent world renown for their chops.. but they pretty good at what they do and they created an original sound that is now mimicked by many.. so i give them credit for that.. also just becuase they dont showcase their shiOt on their albums doesnt mean they cant play up to par

 

[Mark]

They all use pedals, but Jesus Christ, they don't rely on pedals to get thier sound like those 2. These 2 guitar players just bury there sound in effects. I mean damn, they have 2 XP-100's!!!






<< but they pretty good at what they do and they created an original sound that is now mimicked by many >>






Mimicked by who? 15, 16 year old's who run out and buy a signature series Korn guitar just to sound like them?






<< also just becuase they dont showcase their shiOt on their albums doesnt mean they cant play up to par >>






Have you ever heard them play up to par? I haven't, and I think if they had actual skills, they would showcase them.

 

[hpkeeper]

Mark, Do you play much guitar? I personally play bass guitar. I don't think that much of Korn's sound is made from pedals. Just because they have allot of pedals doesn't mean they use them all at once, and even if they do what's it to you, their obviously good enough guitar players to sell a few albums, how many of your albums have you sold? From what I can hear on Korns albums, they use mostly harmonics and they use the pedals with that. To me that's not sucky, that's original.

 

[CoolTechie]

<< Have you ever heard them play up to par? I haven't, and I think if they had actual skills, they would showcase them. >>



yes Ive heard them jam berfore with steve vai on this video and they are better than u think.. and no sorry dude.. just cuz they can play that way doesnt mean they are gonna.. they have nothing to prove and i really dont think they care about wheeling and dealing..its been done

 

[hpkeeper]

<< Have you ever heard them play up to par? I haven't, and I think if they had actual skills, they would showcase them. >>



I think that's wrong, listen to Korns music. Why do they have to prove that they're skills as guitar players? how do you propose that they showcase their skills? Solos are an option but I'd like to see a piece of Korns current songs where a solo would be applicable... Like I said, they use harmonics with a series of effects pedals, which isn't a very efficient way to play a solo, so even if they did have a solo using harmonics I'm sure it would be a pretty damn good one because harmonics are a sound that is hard to produce. What I've noticeed with most solos is that they are relatively fast and complicated rythems, assuming that would apply for a solo that munky and head would come up with and they're style of play using the harmonics it would be quite the solo.

 

[Mark]

Yes I play guitar, and I am more of a purist. The only pedal I use is a wah and the distoriton on my amp. I don't mind pedals, as long as you don't over do it. And the reason why they use harmonics so much is probably to hide thier bad guitar playing. It's not thier skillz people are attracted to, it's thier image. Guitar players like those are easily replacable. Just get some guy with 100 tatoos all over him and throw him in there to hit some strings every once in a while. Doesn't require much talent to play in a band like that. They probably spend more time turning the knobs on thier pedals then playing the guitar itself.

 

[hpkeeper]

so who is your favorite guitar player? Hendrix? Satriani? SRV? common... pop out some guitar legend that you are trying to compare to todays bands.

 

[Suicidal]

John Petrucci from Dream Theater rules.

 

[Maetryx]

Maetryx here,

Although the guitar oriented sound was probably essential in getting my attention, the reason I keep listening to KoRN is the vocalist. I love singers that utilize their entire voice. The average person cannot sing a KoRN song. His voice is just all over the roadmap.

I admit that I am biased for hard guitar music and screaming edgy voices. But KoRN is incredible. Other vocalists that I enjoy based on their vocal range and experimentation are [insert the name of the band who does the song Superman's Dead, I can't remember it right now], SlipKnot, and Disturbed.

I mean, anyone can sing a song by Live! or U2 or Beck or Metallica. Certainly not as well as the singers do in those bands, but my point is that hardly ANYONE can do even a decent imitation of KoRN.

--Maetryx

 

[KaBudokan]

I'm not a Korn fan. BUT, saying that someone sucks because they use a lot of pedals is just ignorant. You may be more of a &quot;purist,&quot; and that is fine. Does that mean your music is more pure? No.

Whatever someone uses to get their own sound is great. Have you ever tried to sound like the guitarists from Korn? I would be willing to bet that you couldn't, even if you tried. Does that mean you suck? No. It means you have a different sound and style.

I don't have any desire to sound like Korn, but I can appreciate the complexities that go into their sound. People have always been criticized by &quot;purists&quot; for trying something different. One of my favorite musicians is Lou Reed. With the Velvet Underground, he used to get the most twisted sounds in the world out of his guitar. Does that mean he sucks? No, it means he was different. Can he shred like Vai? No. Does he want to? No. Still, a few years back, when Guitar Player (or one of those) compiled their list of the Top 100 guitar players of all time, he was on it. Because of the SOUND.

Guitarists are stupid, and we have always loved pissing contests. You know the joke:

Q: How many guitarists does it take to screw in the light bulb?

A: Fifty. One to screw it in, and 49 to say &quot;I could do that.&quot;

So you don't like their playing? Get over it. I'm sure they don't like yours.

PS - When you guys say &quot;harmonics,&quot; are you talking about feedback? That's the impression I got. Not the same thing.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Maetryx: You're thinking of Our Lady Peace.

 

[Pyro]

Have you ever though that making music though all those pedals might actually be harder than playing the guitar?

the guitar itself can only take the music so far. Look at a violin, when was the last time you hear a truly new and original sound from a regular violin?

You use only a wah-wah pedal, but do you know how hard it is it produce music though all those pedals? Its pretty darn hard, I'll tell you that.


Apart from having a nice sound (and yes, the vocalist is better than many others, the first time I heard him I thought two ppl were singing!) and they are after all somewhat pioneers in 7 string guitars.


If you say things like that, have you ever though that back in the 60s some people, &quot;purists&quot;, like you might have said Hendrix sucks because he uses a wah wah and experiments with feedback? Looks like they were wrong and you probably are too.

 

[Suicidal]

They aren't pioneers in 7-string guitars, Steve Vai and John Petrucci were using them way before Korn.