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That's impressive Chevy...

MikeMike said:
42 MPG on the Cruze ECO highway...

if you are to lazy to click the link
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Yes...that was the bit that was impressive for such a large car with a driveable engine. I've seen a few on the road and while they are far from sporty, they are nice looking at would make an ideal commuter car for the price conscious.
 
PricklyPete said:
Yes...that was the bit that was impressive for such a large car with a driveable engine. I've seen a few on the road and while they are far from sporty, they are nice looking at would make an ideal commuter car for the price conscious.
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This is also the only way to get the turbo engine with a manual transmission...

it is also lowered, has better aero, and forged wheels...

the transmission is geared high though, with 4/5/6 as OD
 
MikeMike said:
This is also the only way to get the turbo engine with a manual transmission...

it is also lowered, has better aero, and forged wheels...

the transmission is geared high though, with 4/5/6 as OD
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I read on insideline that there is a version with a "sportier" transmissiong that gets 37 highway...that is likely the version I'd buy...I probably couldn't live with the snooze fest transmission regardless of the 5 extra mpg.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Thus my constant query regarding buying a Volt over a Cruze... :biggrin:
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From an economics standpoint...it's a Cruze handsdown. Volt is a techy wet dream for the person who wants to have the newest eco-thingy-ma-jig on the block. Different markets.
 
Well GE apparently is purchasing 12,000 Volts...which cannot, as far as I can see, be a good economic decision...
 
To be honest, this is probably one of the best cars that Chevy has EVER produced. Sure its not a performance car, but its the "whole package" and should sell very well. The Malibu was/is a great car, but this looks even better. Impressive.
 
While it's impressive, two things to remember....

1.) This just going to be marketing fodder. Sell rates for manual transmission cars are like what 5%?? Something quite low. It's why you don't see them anymore.
2.) If the 2012 Ford Focus with the twin clutch auto trans gets 40 or 41MPG it'll almost certainly murder the Cruze in sales. Why? Because Americans in general don't like to row their own gears and among my friends I can think of myself and one other friend who can drive a manual...and if someone is purely looking at mileage they'll say I can get 40MPG with an auto trans or 42 MPG with a manual...and I'll bet 9 times out of 10 they'll take the 40mpg auto trans


Don't get me wrong congrats to Chevy you've created a great car with great mileage but since it's a manual trans sales will be complete shit for this. I would be very surprised if internal Chevy estimates are predicting this trim line to get more than 5% sales.
 
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Zap said:
Probably can't do that for crash safety reasons.
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That makes no sense. If the lightweight panels weren't crash safe, they wouldn't be in the Eco model either.

My guess would be that they are made out of some material that costs more to manufacture than the heavier panels.


I think that the Cruze sounds like a great car. It looks sharp, pushes a good amount of HP out of a 1.4L engine, and it gets great gas mileage.

DeathBUA said:
While it's impressive, two things to remember....

1.) This just going to be marketing fodder. Sell rates for manual transmission cars are like what 5%?? Something quite low. It's why you don't see them anymore.
2.) If the 2012 Ford Focus with the twin clutch auto trans gets 40 or 41MPG it'll almost certainly murder the Cruze in sales. Why? Because Americans in general don't like to row their own gears and among my friends I can think of myself and one other friend who can drive a manual...and if someone is purely looking at mileage they'll say I can get 40MPG with an auto trans or 42 MPG with a manual...and I'll bet 9 times out of 10 they'll take the 40mpg auto trans


Don't get me wrong congrats to Chevy you've created a great car with great mileage but since it's a manual trans sales will be complete shit for this. I would be very surprised if internal Chevy estimates are predicting this trim line to get more than 5% sales.
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I really doubt that there's a huge difference in fuel mileage between the manual and the automatic version. The regular version gets 36mpg, so if they were to make an Eco with an automatic, I would think that it would get at least 38mpg.
 
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After I read the OP the Elantra jumped in my mind as well from autblog earlier today. I love my 09 and could certainly see myself in one of those in a couple years. Hyandai has really impressed me.
 
Jdawg84 said:
That Elantra looks GREAT. Hyundai sure knows how to style cars
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simonizor said:
That makes no sense. If the lightweight panels weren't crash safe, they wouldn't be in the Eco model either.

My guess would be that they are made out of some material that costs more to manufacture than the heavier panels.
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I think the article is poorly written. The lightweight panels and shortened weld flanges are undoubtedly across the entire line. The paragraph mentions both Eco and then later Cruze which I think creates the confusion.

The shortened weld flanges would require two sets of dies if the shortened flanges were used on the Eco only. The thinner metal is within the tolerance a set of dies could run so they may be Eco only although it makes little sense from a production standpoint.

Now, some of you guys would know, is this car manufactured solely in the U.S. or is there an overseas manufacturing facility too? In that case I could understand different tooling. There would be dies both here and there and differences between them would make sense. In other words, is the Eco version imported?
 
Jdawg84 said:
That Elantra looks GREAT. Hyundai sure knows how to style cars
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personally i think it looks like a civic. i understand it has similar design to the sonata, but that being said, the similarities are striking. i'm sure this will be a bump up for small car buyers though.
 
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