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Lifer
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DrPizza said:
People have a lot of rights. It'd be a nicer world if they chose to use those rights appropriately, vs. being confrontational with those rights. Going into restaurants with a AK-47 strapped to your back, because you can, isn't that much removed from the idiots who exercise their right to free speech by protesting at funerals.

By not protesting at funerals does not mean you have less of a right to freedom of speech. Let's all agree that you have the right to protest at funerals. But, just don't be a jackass. Likewise, with the guns.
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This reminds me of Ian Malcolm's speech from Jurassic Park: "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should." Just because you have the legal right to do something doesn't make it a good idea.
 
Don Vito Corleone

Don Vito Corleone

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Sigh - to think that images like this may be a thing of the past . . .

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I guess mommy didn't give these guys enough attention as kids.
 
trenchfoot

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I'm just curious about why the guy felt the need to bring the "assault rifle" into the restaurant in the first place?

Sure, you could say "because he had the right to" but that just diverts away from the real reason and gives license to practice any and all manner of stupidity.

If he was making a statement for second amendment rights in that way, then by doing so, he was blatantly shallow, selfish and plainly out for self-gratification at the expense of offending others and in this case, in an ironic way, negatively affecting his fellow firearm owners in the process thereof.

Makes as much sense as bringing an assault rifle to a pro football game.

Common sense not found......at all.
 
Londo_Jowo

Londo_Jowo

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BUnit1701 said:
And, pray tell, when did Chipolte gain the ability to create law? Pretty sure all they can do is ask that you don't carry, there is no penalty under law if you have a permit.

EDIT: Also, Chipolte is no longer allowing the display of guns, so no open carry, concealed would be unaffected.
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They clearly stated only police officers would be allowed to carry within their restaurants. They will be placing a 30.06 sign by the entrance preventing anyone other than law officers to carry on their premises.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/7/30/30.06

a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun" a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun" - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/7/30/30.06#sthash.97QYXKlE.dpuf
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WackyDan

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BUnit1701 said:
And, pray tell, when did Chipolte gain the ability to create law? Pretty sure all they can do is ask that you don't carry, there is no penalty under law if you have a permit.

EDIT: Also, Chipolte is no longer allowing the display of guns, so no open carry, concealed would be unaffected.
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If they post a sign stated no concealed weapons you can be charged with trespass. Would it happen? Probably not... You would be asked to leave and if you didn't they could call the police. However, that's not to say that if you were imprinting and they noticed then chose to call the police rather than confront you... You could be charged with trespass under the assumption you ignored the posted restriction.

So yeah, most CCW holders are not going to place themselves at risk for bullshit like that.
 
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BUnit1701

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Londo_Jowo said:
They clearly stated only police officers would be allowed to carry within their restaurants. They will be placing a 30.06 sign by the entrance preventing anyone other than law officers to carry on their premises.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/7/30/30.06
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It does vary state to state, but as far as I know only Texas has a legally sanctioned 'no concealed' sign. In other states it is a suggestion without the force of law.
 
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fskimospy

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BUnit1701 said:
It does vary state to state, but as far as I know only Texas has a legally sanctioned 'no concealed' sign. In other states it is a suggestion without the force of law.
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Nope. You have no right to bring a weapon on to anyone's private property without their permission. If they say no, that's the end of it.
 
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Incorruptible

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Chipotle has every right to do this but it's idiotic though. Liberals and gun control supporters are going too far. I do like the hypocrisy from the leftists though, Private business can discriminate against gun owners but they can't discriminate against anyone else.
 
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fskimospy

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Incorruptible said:
Chipotle has every right to do this but it's idiotic though. Liberals and gun control supporters are going too far. I do like the hypocrisy from the leftists though, Private business can discriminate against gun owners but they can't discriminate against anyone else.
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Gotta love the stupidity of the guy who thinks saying "you can't bring your gun in here" is the equivalent of "you can't bring your black skin in here"
 
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Venix

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Londo_Jowo said:
No, what bothers me is that open carry idiots keep screwing it up for those who have CHLs.

Rather than go to restaurants armed to the teeth why not go to their elected officials seeking to get the law changed? Open carry supporters will never win against "Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America". They make it known where they're having meetings and the ignorant open carry dunderheads show up like clockwork. Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America petitions the restaurant chain after it occurs and the restaurants ban firearms every time.
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As far as I know, no restaurants have banned firearms because of Bloomberg Demands Action. Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and Chipotle have issued statements respectfully requesting that people stop carrying in their stores after some obnoxious open carry demonstrations, but they haven't shown any intention of actually enforcing a ban. They just want the political bullshit kept out of their businesses.
 
Don Vito Corleone

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Incorruptible said:
Chipotle has every right to do this but it's idiotic though. Liberals and gun control supporters are going too far. I do like the hypocrisy from the leftists though, Private business can discriminate against gun owners but they can't discriminate against anyone else.
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How is this "discriminating against gun owners"? I own several guns and have never had a problem being served at Chipotle.
 
Sheik Yerbouti

Sheik Yerbouti

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Incorruptible said:
PRIVATE BUSINESS. Businesses have the right to discriminate.
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bwaaaahahahahahahahhahaha
Oh indigestible, you are so wrong, all the fucking time, all. the. fucking. time.

For the last time, my oxygen deprived trollette
Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the federal law which prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation -- only prevents businesses from refusing service based on race, color, religion, or national origin.
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Federal law, which circumvents any kind of crazy you deem right, explicitly states you cannot discriminate.
suck it trollette
 
Don Vito Corleone

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tweaker2 said:
Yep, they look exactly like the ex-SEAL/Green Beret/Delta Force/Ranger that they once were.......in their dreams. lol
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Yeah, I don't think it's coincidental that they are openly carrying rifles while, based on their appearance, neither of them could fight their way out of a paper bag without a gun. The guy on the right appears to be wearing children's-sized pants, and the guy on the left poses a real and present danger to Chipotle's stockpiles of food, not just in that location but on a national level.
 
Daverino

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Don Vito Corleone said:
Yeah, I don't think it's coincidental that they are openly carrying rifles while, based on their appearance, neither of them could fight their way out of a paper bag without a gun. The guy on the right appears to be wearing children's-sized pants, and the guy on the left poses a real and present danger to Chipotle's stockpiles of food, not just in that location but on a national level.
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Guy on the left is too fat to get laid.

Guy on the right is too short to get laid.

Therefore, they carry assault rifles into Chipotle. It's all clear to me now.
 
alzan

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DrPizza said:
Just a wild guess, without knowing specific laws from state to state, but I think that if they hadn't said anything about concealed carry, they'd be in the clear after some incident involving a concealed carry holder shooting a random customer on accident. But, specifically having a policy that says, "we allow concealed carry" might open them up to litigation in the case of some unfortunate event. Basically, idiots excessively displaying their right to open carry, with rifles, which led to a lot of uncomfortable customers complaining, resulted in Chipotle taking this step to keep the rest of their customers comfortable.

People have a lot of rights. It'd be a nicer world if they chose to use those rights appropriately, vs. being confrontational with those rights. Going into restaurants with a AK-47 strapped to your back, because you can, isn't that much removed from the idiots who exercise their right to free speech by protesting at funerals.

By not protesting at funerals does not mean you have less of a right to freedom of speech. Let's all agree that you have the right to protest at funerals. But, just don't be a jackass. Likewise, with the guns.
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This. I'm mostly okay with open carry; at least until situations like the OP present themselves.

What's really sad is that open carry incidents like this can create more animosity towards gun owners.
 
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WHAMPOM

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Feb 28, 2006
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Incorruptible said:
Chipotle has every right to do this but it's idiotic though. Liberals and gun control supporters are going too far. I do like the hypocrisy from the leftists though, Private business can discriminate against gun owners but they can't discriminate against anyone else.
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No shirt
No shoes
No service, Jeeeezzze you are easy.
 
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