Thank God racism is over thanks to Barack Obama's nomination!

Phokus

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/...bmar13,0,7686526.story

The end of this story is outright infuriating

Chicago Tribune posted:

Race may be factor in police shooting of unarmed elderly man
By Howard Witt

Tribune correspondent

March 13, 2009

HOMER, La.?On the last afternoon of his life, Bernard Monroe was hosting a cookout for family and friends in front of his dilapidated home on Adams Street in this small northern Louisiana town.

Throat cancer had robbed the 73-year-old retired electric utility worker of his voice years ago, but family members said Monroe was clearly enjoying the commotion of a dozen of his grandchildren and great-grandchildren cavorting around him in the dusty, grassless yard.

Then the Homer police showed up, two white officers whose arrival caused the participants at the black family gathering to quickly fall silent.

Within moments, Monroe lay dead, shot by one of the officers as his family looked on.

Now the Louisiana State Police, the FBI and the U.S. Justice Department are swarming over this impoverished lumber town of 3,800, drawn by the allegations of numerous witnesses that police killed an unarmed, elderly black man without justification?and then moved a gun to make it look like the man had been holding it.

"We are closely monitoring the events in Homer," said Donald Washington, the U.S. attorney for the Western District of Louisiana. "I understand that a number of allegations are being made that, if true, would be serious enough for us to follow up on very quickly."

Yet the Feb. 20 Homer incident was not an isolated case. Across the nation, in four cases in recent months, white police officers have been accused of unprovoked shootings of African Americans in what civil rights leaders say are illustrations of the potentially deadly consequences of racial profiling by police.

In the mostly white Houston suburb of Bellaire, a 23-year-old black man sitting in his own SUV in the driveway of his parents' home was shot and wounded on New Year's Eve by police who mistakenly believed he had stolen the vehicle. The case is under investigation.

In Oakland, a transit police officer has been charged with murder for allegedly shooting an unarmed black man in the back while he was restrained and lying face down on a train platform on New Year's Day.

In New Orleans, nine police officers are under investigation in the New Year's Day death of a 22-year-old black man who was struck by 14 bullets after an undercover team stopped his car. The police say the man raised a gun and fired at them, but the man's family disputes that.

"All the anecdotal information demonstrates that African Americans are the most frequent victims of zealous, inappropriate police activity that often winds up in a shooting," said Reggie Shuford, a senior attorney with the racial justice program at the American Civil Liberties Union. "It's a shoot first, ask questions later approach to policing."



The evidence is not merely anecdotal. The most recent national analysis from the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics shows that blacks and Hispanics were nearly three times as likely as whites to be searched by police?and blacks were almost four times as likely as whites to be subjected to the use of force.

Psychologists are stepping up research into the implicit, unconscious racial biases that may be driving such statistics and affecting police behavior.

"If in fact police have implicit biases?if they automatically associate blacks with crime?then that would be relevant to an officer in a split-second, shoot-or-don't-shoot situation," said Lorie Fridell, a criminology professor at the University of South Florida who is creating a new anti-bias police training program with funding from the Justice Department. "Is the officer more inclined to believe he sees a gun in the hand of a black person, rather than a cell phone? I think that is possible."

In Monroe's case, friends and family members say they still don't understand why the beloved neighborhood patriarch ended up dead.

Four witnesses told the Tribune that Monroe was sitting outside his home in the late afternoon of Feb. 20, clutching a large sports-drink bottle, when two police officers pulled up and summoned Monroe's son, Shawn, for a conversation.

Shawn Monroe has a long record of arrests and convictions for assault and battery, and even though he was not wanted on any current warrants, he took off running into the house. One of the officers, a new hire named Tim Cox who had been on Homer's police force for only a few weeks, chased after him, reappearing moments later in the doorway.

Meanwhile, the witnesses said, the elder Monroe had started walking toward the front door, carrying only his drink bottle, to try to intervene. When Monroe got to the first step on the front porch, the witnesses said, Cox opened fire, striking him several times as adults and children stood nearby.

"He just shot him through the screen door," said Denise Nicholson, a family friend who said she was standing a few feet from Monroe. "After [Monroe] was on the ground, we kept asking the officer to call an ambulance, but all he did was get on his radio and say, 'Officer in distress.' "

As Monroe lay dying, the witnesses said, the second police officer, who has not been publicly identified, picked up a handgun that Monroe, an avid hunter, always kept in plain sight on the porch for protection. Using a police-issue blue latex glove, the officer grasped the gun by its handle, the witnesses said, and then ordered everyone to back away from the scene. The next thing they said they saw was the gun on the ground next to Monroe's body.

"I saw him pick up the gun off the porch," said Marcus Frazier, another witness. "I said, 'What are you doing?' The cop told me, 'Shut the hell up, you don't know what you're talking about.' "

The Homer police maintain that Monroe was holding a loaded gun when he was shot, but they are not commenting further on the case.

At least one fact surrounding the shooting is not in dispute: It took place amid long-standing tensions between Homer police and the residents of Monroe's crime-plagued black neighborhood.

["People here are afraid of the police," said Terry Willis, vice president of the Homer NAACP branch. "They harass black people, they stop people for no reason and rough them up without charging them with anything."

That is how it should be, responded Russell Mills, Homer's police chief, who noted the high rates of gun and drug arrests in the neighborhood.

"If I see three or four young black men walking down the street, I have to stop them and check their names," said Mills, who is white. "I want them to be afraid every time they see the police that they might get arrested. We're not out there trying to abuse and harass people?we're trying to protect the law-abiding citizens locked behind their doors in fear."

Conservatives keep saying racism is gone in America now that Barack is prez... surely this story is a fabrication by the black community?!?! I would never believe our men in blue would plant evidence on someone they shot dead!

I like how the police chief even admits that he uses the police for to keep black people in constant fear... when he says he's trying to protect 'law abiding citizens', he means 'white people'.
 

Phokus

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Oh and in case anyone isn't infuriated yet, this link has a ton of these horror stories:

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

In March 1992, police in Everett, Washington storm the home of Robin Pratt on a no-knock warrant. They are looking for her husband, who would later be released when the allegations in the warrant turned out to be false.

Though police had a key to the apartment, they instead choose to throw a 50-pound battering ram through the apartment's sliding-glass door. Glass shards land inches away from the couple's six-year-old daughter and five-year-old niece. One officer encounters Robin Pratt on the way to her bedroom. Hearing other SWAT team members yell "Get down!" Pratt falls to her knees. She then raises her head briefly to say, "Please don't hurt my children." At that point, Deputy Anthony Aston fires his weapon, putting a bullet in her neck, killing her.

Officers next entered the bedroom, where Dep. Aston then put the tip of his MP-5 assault submachine gun against Larry Pratt's head. When Pratt asked if he could move, another officer said that if he did, he'd have his head blown off.

Though a subsequent investigation by a civilian inquest jury found the shooting "unjustified," the officer who shot and killed Pratt was never charged.
 

JEDIYoda

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Phokus are you just trolling...or are you an outright idiot?
Who says recism is gone now that obama is president?
You have any credible links that support that statement or are you just trolling?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Phokus are you just trolling...or are you an outright idiot?
Who says recism is gone now that obama is president?
You have any credible links that support that statement or are you just trolling?

Obama Means Racism is Dead; Where's the Change Though?
I have to commend President-Elect Barack Obama, I really do, not only has he crushed his rivals in the Democratic party and then hired them on to his cabinet but he has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that racism in America is truly dead. Having an African-American in the White House proves this nation, that once used Africans as a trading chip, is truly great.

While I am certain there are small bands of Americans who, for whatever unwarranted reason, do not care for African-Americans I think it is very safe to say they will be mitigated even more in the coming days, weeks, months, and years.

While this truly is a historical moment I have to wonder. What is Barack Obama going to do that President Bush didn?t already do? President Bush pushed this country extremely hard into socialism. I would take a gander that President Bush?s father?s old boss (Ronald Reagan) is, for all intents and purposes, a tornado in his coffin right now. What are we going to get with Barack Obama? No one really knows.

Oh conservatives, what crazy things won't you say?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Phokus are you just trolling...or are you an outright idiot?
Who says recism is gone now that obama is president?
You have any credible links that support that statement or are you just trolling?

Ah yes, Obama's presidency marks the 'death of racism' in america, thanks for pointing this out conservatives... your black and white thinking (no pun intended) will surely prove accurate... dear black people: racism is dead, no need to fear the police anymore!

http://usconservatives.about.c...ntary/a/Kerwick-39.htm
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Phokus are you just trolling...or are you an outright idiot?
Who says recism is gone now that obama is president?
You have any credible links that support that statement or are you just trolling?

WHITE GUILT IS DEAD!

Now you can look at your white skin and NOT feel any guilt because Barack Obama is president, yippee!

http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/...2/white-guilt-is-dead/

Isn't life grand (if you're white)?
 

CanOWorms

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Racism will never die until a serious engagement of the racism within the African-American community towards other minority groups occurs, even if the traditional white-black viewpoint is resolved.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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When there are 7 posts out of 10 (including this one) who are by the OP, one wonders if we're to be instructed, enlightened or preached to.

It looks like the latter.
 

babylon5

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Racism will never die until a serious engagement of the racism within the African-American community towards other minority groups occurs, even if the traditional white-black viewpoint is resolved.

Racism would exist just as homophobia attitude by SOME whites, blacks, hispanics....on and on

 

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"If I see three or four young black men walking down the street, I have to stop them and check their names," said Mills, who is white. "I want them to be afraid every time they see the police that they might get arrested. We're not out there trying to abuse and harass people?we're trying to protect the law-abiding citizens locked behind their doors in fear."

To serve and protect indeed.
 

Jaskalas

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As long as humans inhabit this planet, we shall assault one another out of even the slightest of differences, let alone skin color.

What you need to realize, is that the small details in the picture are always going to look like the OP. The difference is the big picture. It was said that this would never happen in our life times. Those people were incapable of seeing the big picture.

President Obama?s election did not change this nation and its matters of race. It just helped the blind find reality. It helped them see that they were wrong, that the big picture is not what they thought it was.

From hereon we may drift back into our preconceived notions of reality, after addressing the fact that a black man IS President.
 

chucky2

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This is quite possibly the biggest Fail thread in P&N, ever. And that's saying something for P&N.

OP: As a white man who's been a victim of outright black on white racism many times, all I can say is: Deal with it.

Either those two cops are the biggest idiots in the world and should shoot themselves out of shame of being so, or, the story as told didn't quite go down as stated. For some reason (hmmm, maybe out of probability and having some personal experience in sh1t like this), I'm going with the latter.

Chuck

P.S. The only "white guilt" I've got is wondering how the F I can go to a supermarkert around here, consistently watch black people in nice rides park in the front handicap spots, consistently watch them walk into the store just fine, consistently watch them walk around the store just fine, and then consistently watch them walk back to the car just fine. Can you explain that? Or, how is it possible when driving through the Section 8 part of town, there are so many nice rides there???? I mean, these people are on Section 8....should they not be just scraping by??? How can you be living on Section 8 and have so many nice things, like nice clothes, brand new shoes, new/newish rides, etc?? Just how is this possible??? How is that possible, and my white aunt not able to get on it, all the while she is living poor? That just sounds so......racist, doesn't it? Idiot.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Phokus
In other words Jediyoda, you're an idiot

No your the idiot to even believe that racism is dead...no matter what others say...to believe otherwise is foolish !

Then the link is a blog?? I said a credible link....rol..
Tom Adkins of all people is a known liar.....
If you try hard enough you can find anything on the internet to support what you deem to be true...

The people who claim this is the end of racism are most likely those who are the most racist..rofl

sad......
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: chucky2
This is quite possibly the biggest Fail thread in P&N, ever. And that's saying something for P&N.

OP: As a white man who's been a victim of outright black on white racism many times, all I can say is: Deal with it.

Either those two cops are the biggest idiots in the world and should shoot themselves out of shame of being so, or, the story as told didn't quite go down as stated. For some reason (hmmm, maybe out of probability and having some personal experience in sh1t like this), I'm going with the latter.

Chuck

P.S. The only "white guilt" I've got is wondering how the F I can go to a supermarkert around here, consistently watch black people in nice rides park in the front handicap spots, consistently watch them walk into the store just fine, consistently watch them walk around the store just fine, and then consistently watch them walk back to the car just fine. Can you explain that? Or, how is it possible when driving through the Section 8 part of town, there are so many nice rides there???? I mean, these people are on Section 8....should they not be just scraping by??? How can you be living on Section 8 and have so many nice things, like nice clothes, brand new shoes, new/newish rides, etc?? Just how is this possible??? How is that possible, and my white aunt not able to get on it, all the while she is living poor? That just sounds so......racist, doesn't it? Idiot.


Agreed with this and a few posts above as well that say regardless of what happens there will always be a few exceptions that exhibit a certain behavior.

The cops see a group of people that are typically responsible for certain behavior/activities...it sounds as if they are reacting to what is going on rather than simply motivated by race.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: bozack
The cops see a group of people that are typically responsible for certain behavior/activities...it sounds as if they are reacting to what is going on rather than simply motivated by race.
So in other words if you are in Boston and one of their Sports teams wins a playoff game it's best to avoid crowds of college age people or risk getting shot.
 

alchemize

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Phokus really has the faux-outrage going lately. I'm guessing he's feeling dissappointed in the "new boss is the same as the old boss" and needs somebody to blame.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
When there are 7 posts out of 10 (including this one) who are by the OP, one wonders if we're to be instructed, enlightened or preached to.

It looks like the latter.

Phokus does love himself some Phokus, doesn't he? :laugh:
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Phokus are you just trolling...or are you an outright idiot?
Who says recism is gone now that obama is president?
You have any credible links that support that statement or are you just trolling?

Obama Means Racism is Dead; Where's the Change Though?
I have to commend President-Elect Barack Obama, I really do, not only has he crushed his rivals in the Democratic party and then hired them on to his cabinet but he has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that racism in America is truly dead. Having an African-American in the White House proves this nation, that once used Africans as a trading chip, is truly great.

While I am certain there are small bands of Americans who, for whatever unwarranted reason, do not care for African-Americans I think it is very safe to say they will be mitigated even more in the coming days, weeks, months, and years.

While this truly is a historical moment I have to wonder. What is Barack Obama going to do that President Bush didn?t already do? President Bush pushed this country extremely hard into socialism. I would take a gander that President Bush?s father?s old boss (Ronald Reagan) is, for all intents and purposes, a tornado in his coffin right now. What are we going to get with Barack Obama? No one really knows.

Oh conservatives, what crazy things won't you say?

WTF? It is a copy and paste of some unknowns persons commentary. Would you like me to start making worthless threads? 9/11 conspiracy, chemtrails, left wingnuts, I have google and I can find plenty of commentary and make broad sweeping statements about groups of people.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain
"If I see three or four young black men walking down the street, I have to stop them and check their names," said Mills, who is white. "I want them to be afraid every time they see the police that they might get arrested. We're not out there trying to abuse and harass people?we're trying to protect the law-abiding citizens locked behind their doors in fear."

To serve and protect indeed.

Freaking wow. There's so much wrong with that I don't know where to begin. Yank that cops badge pronto.
 

CLite

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Originally posted by: chucky2
This is quite possibly the biggest Fail thread in P&N, ever. And that's saying something for P&N.

OP: As a white man who's been a victim of outright black on white racism many times, all I can say is: Deal with it.

Either those two cops are the biggest idiots in the world and should shoot themselves out of shame of being so, or, the story as told didn't quite go down as stated. For some reason (hmmm, maybe out of probability and having some personal experience in sh1t like this), I'm going with the latter.

Chuck

P.S. The only "white guilt" I've got is wondering how the F I can go to a supermarkert around here, consistently watch black people in nice rides park in the front handicap spots, consistently watch them walk into the store just fine, consistently watch them walk around the store just fine, and then consistently watch them walk back to the car just fine. Can you explain that? Or, how is it possible when driving through the Section 8 part of town, there are so many nice rides there???? I mean, these people are on Section 8....should they not be just scraping by??? How can you be living on Section 8 and have so many nice things, like nice clothes, brand new shoes, new/newish rides, etc?? Just how is this possible??? How is that possible, and my white aunt not able to get on it, all the while she is living poor? That just sounds so......racist, doesn't it? Idiot.


Lol you fail at life.

Deal with it? You are telling them to deal with no-knock warrents and completely unjustified shootings because you might of at some point in your life been racially harassed by a black person. The cute side story about nice clothes/cars/etc. doesn't have shit to do with the OP.

Your sound logic and bulletproof reasoning are shining examples of how low a human being's IQ really can get.



 

Double Trouble

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LOL @ Troll Rage

Nobody really believes Obama being president means racism doesn't exist. All it means is that enough people were either not racist or willing to look past race to elect a black man to be the most powerful man in the world. It shows that racism on a systemic and national scale is dead, not that individual is gone, there's plenty of racism left among all groups of people.

The articles you post are full of unsubstantiated biased commentary, meaningless garbage of course. I could post 50 links to articles about <insert racial group here> acting inappropriately or being racist. So what?

Your sound logic and bulletproof reasoning are shining examples of how low a human being's IQ really can get.
If you understood anything about IQ and what it does (or does not) measure, you'd realize that your statement is pretty stupid.