Thai HDD resuming...prices to start dropping?

Puppies04

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Nice. The retailer I use seems to be pushing SSD prices up a little aswell, I can only assume this is because more people are buying them rather than spend unrealistic money on HDDs. Hopefully they get back to full production ASAP.
 

taltamir

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Good for WD. this type of quick execution probably just saved their company.

Not only that, if seagate fails to execute as well they could be bought out by WD... Seagate shares are already plummeting.
 

Concillian

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Not only that, if seagate fails to execute as well they could be bought out by WD... Seagate shares are already plummeting.

Wat?

WD will never be allowed to buyout Seagate. If you consider the WD+ Hitachi deal and the Seagate + Samsung deal, WD and Seagate are over 90% of the hard drive market. No way would that ever get approved.
 

RU482

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Wat?

WD will never be allowed to buyout Seagate. If you consider the WD+ Hitachi deal and the Seagate + Samsung deal, WD and Seagate are over 90% of the hard drive market. No way would that ever get approved.

yeah. The WD-hitachi deal already has some stipulations tied to it, no way they could get any bigger
 

BFG10K

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Nice. The retailer I use seems to be pushing SSD prices up a little aswell, I can only assume this is because more people are buying them rather than spend unrealistic money on HDDs. Hopefully they get back to full production ASAP.
Unrealistic? HD prices are still far, far cheaper than SSD prices. I laugh when I see people buying SSDs costing ten times more per GB than HDDs, but have less storage space than my iPod. Wow, what an “opportunity” these people have discovered. :rolleyes:
 

Spikesoldier

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Unrealistic? HD prices are still far, far cheaper than SSD prices. I laugh when I see people buying SSDs costing ten times more per GB than HDDs, but have less storage space than my iPod. Wow, what an “opportunity” these people have discovered. :rolleyes:

you should really try a ssd, it will change your life.
 

greenhawk

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Good to hear, though not expecting any fast change in prices. January is unlikly seeing as chrismas will effect most deliveries in a lot of places for a few weeks.

Secondly, I would expect a slot ramp up as they will not want to be making crap drives.

Personally, I will still hold off even if prices drop some, mainly as I expect the inital restart drives to have a higher failure rate as the factory is cleaned / adjusted all over again. I've better things to do than play tester for hardware.
 

SunnyD

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Don't count on HDD prices to go down much. Tin foil hat says that this "issue" was far more exaggerated by the manufacturers to bring margins up, and will likely keep prices high for the foreseeable future using it as an excuse.
 

TheWan

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More good news, Nidec resumes production at 9 out of 10 of its Thailand factories: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storag...nd_Components_at_All_Thailand_Facilities.html


I have a 1 TB drive and I'm eying an upgrade to 1.5 TB when prices drop a bit. There’s no SSD that’s suitable for my needs. They’re all too small and too overpriced.
Get both. Best of both worlds. If you can afford it of course.
I have one in my PC, and I will never install windows and programs/games on anything other than SSD.
 

nanaki333

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meh.. i enjoy all my SSDs. sporting 2x 256GB M4 raid0 and 2x 160GB intel 320 :)

my storage is 2x 1TB spinpoint and my never ending supply of NAS storage :D
 

sequoia464

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meh.. i enjoy all my SSDs. sporting 2x 256GB M4 raid0 and 2x 160GB intel 320 :)

my storage is 2x 1TB spinpoint and my never ending supply of NAS storage :D

I have a similar setup - half the capacities though. It is frustrating to use a non SSD machine now.
 

GotNoRice

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Just because production resumes doesn't mean prices are going to come back down - certainly not right away at least.

I have zero doubt that they are going to sit there collecting our money at the higher prices for absolutely as long as possible.
 

Concillian

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IMO prices will come down in the channel next quarter. Probably not fast, but they'll come down. They had locked in prices with the likes of Dell and HP via quarterly contracts already when the flood happened, so they were not able to amortize their higher per unit fixed costs with the bulk of their volume. In Q1 2012, they'll be able to bump the prices to the big guys, which even a small increase will reduce the need to completely hose the retail channel prices.

That's why retail prices really spiked so high, it was the only place they could really increase to offset their per unit cost increases. Since it's fairly low volume compared to the drives that go to people they have big contracts with, those prices had to spike pretty high to make up for the lack of increase there.

I'm sure there was a little greed involved too, but the HDD industry cost per unit is also incredibly sensitive to volume. Margins in the HDD industry have always been pretty low and inventory also stays pretty lean compared to something like the memory market, which does make them pretty susceptible to events like this.
 

monkeydelmagico

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It's almost January and I've seen some decreases in pricing. Still not pre-flood $$$ but it looks like at least half of the markup differences are gone.
 

Zap

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It's almost January and I've seen some decreases in pricing. Still not pre-flood $$$ but it looks like at least half of the markup differences are gone.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. I should have tried selling my excess HDDs earlier. :p My old hardware tends to collect after I've upgraded.
 

Puppies04

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I was reading an article the other day that was saying that there was actually enough HDDs stockpiled to easily last out this drop in production and the only reason the prices shot up so dramatically is every company that installs/sells them decided to panic buy meaning that almost as soon as production restarts the prices should drop pretty fast.
 

Denithor

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Don't count on HDD prices to go down much. Tin foil hat says that this "issue" was far more exaggerated by the manufacturers to bring margins up, and will likely keep prices high for the foreseeable future using it as an excuse.

Kinda like gasoline prices in the US after Hurricane Katrina?
 

RelaxTheMind

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i just checked newegg for my favorite HDD, the samsung 103SJ.

still $149.99 which is 3x what it was pre-flood, but hey, at least you get a free antec 200 case with purchase!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185

funny. i have the same favorite drive. probably have similar disgust at the price as i was about to buy another one.

it wouldnt be wise to keep prices inflated right after a holiday season when people are broke.
 

Charlie98

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I suspect prices will fall fairly fast, both Seagate and WD will want their marketshare back, even in the retail market; with the SSD star on the rise, they are going to have to hit hard to wrest interest away from the SSD's and back to a more economical HDD.
 

kami

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On boxing day NCIX did a sale of WD Green 2TB at their pre-flood price of $69.99. It was a limited number obviously but maybe a sign of dropping prices.