Texas Sheriff's Deputy Killed in Gas Station Shooting

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mizzou

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First let me say that this was a senseless tragic killing, I'm glad that they caught the shooter.

As far as your comment though, the pendulum has been swinging the way of a police state for a long time. This is NOT the way to push back because it simply makes the cops more jumpy and quicker on their triggers but decades of abuse and overuse of power with almost complete impunity has led to an us versus them mentality. For the longest time that attitude was just held by the police, now even average law abiding citizens are seeing it and so the attitude is now shared by both sides.

The police need to blink first and start policing their own instead of covering for each other when they cross the line. No more "testilying", no more rough rides, no more shoot first attitude, no more escalating situations instead of at least attempting to deescalate them, stop the insane overuse of no-knock warrants against non-violent offenders, stop being revenue collectors, stop starting confrontations that end in a civilian being killed over selling a loose cigarette to an adult, stop committing highway robbery and extortion to steal peoples property without so much as charging them with a crime, stop using violence as a fist resort. Basically they need to revert back to the peace officers of old instead of the door kicking jackbooted thugs that many of them have became.

More and more of those they are supposed to protecting and serving have lost all trust in them and those numbers are growing every day. This is a sad and horrific incident, my thoughts are with the family of the officer and I am glad the shooter will never breathe free air again, I just hope they don't use it as an excuse to raise the level of force they use.

I don't understand why people think so highly of police officers back 20,30, or 40 or more years ago. It's probably rose colored lenses though...

Go find some old school coppers and ask them if today's police officers are jackbooted thugs or cuddly teddy bears compared to cops of their age.
 

Phynaz

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Nobody is justifying the killing dumbass. elevate your reasoning.

I didn't mention you by name. Since you replied to me directly you must consider yourself to be in the class of "idiot".

Using logical reasoning of course.
 

JSt0rm

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You mean the black and white world where you think violence begets violence?

Only ignorant fucks think that.


Only ignorant fucks believe that violence creates more violence?


Sure buddy. I used to think you a smart fellow but you are fucking dumb. Probably know how to rock excel spreadsheets though.
 

JSt0rm

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I didn't mention you by name. Since you replied to me directly you must consider yourself to be in the class of "idiot".

Using logical reasoning of course.

The people around here have caveman level of intellect when it comes to the nuances of life. Get out of your comfort zones and learn some things that make you uncomfortable. You will have all of eternity for oblivion.
 

Sulaco

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Only ignorant fucks believe that violence creates more violence?


Sure buddy. I used to think you a smart fellow but you are fucking dumb. Probably know how to rock excel spreadsheets though.

None of your flawed reasoning and poorly thought out replies in this thread change the fact that your original post was trite and inane. Considering the obvious context (the cold blooded, targeted murder of a police officer), it makes it downright disgusting.

Posting random quote nuggets pulled from middle school inspirational posters doesn't make you a deep thinker; it makes your obvious, cowardly rationale of the murder of a police officer transparently clear.
We're not expecting Jungian reasoning from you, let's be clear. But there's a reason like 8 people saw through your sad little post: They're smarter than you.
 

JSt0rm

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None of your flawed reasoning and poorly thought out replies in this thread change the fact that your original post was trite and inane. Considering the obvious context (the cold blooded, targeted murder of a police officer), it makes it downright disgusting.

Posting random quote nuggets pulled from middle school inspirational posters doesn't make you a deep thinker; it makes your obvious, cowardly rationale of the murder of a police officer transparently clear.
We're not expecting Jungian reasoning from you, let's be clear. But there's a reason like 8 people saw through your sad little post: They're smarter than you.


8 people saw what they wanted to see and refused to see what they didnt.

Saying that violence creates violence is more then a inspirational poster, Its a warning about the downward spiral of violence and how if we loved more we would have less of it. I dont understand why or how any of you took that response of mine to mean that I supported the killing of a cop.

The post was intended to elevate the conversation beyond a simple "one man committed a horrible act on another man" because thats where this conversation needs to go. But by all means continue on in ignorance. You certainly wont be the first or the last.
 

JoLLyRoGer

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This is Texas, he probably will get a one way trip to death row over concocted evidence while the real perp lives to a ripe old age.


Just what in the fuck is that supposed to mean anyway? If you walk up and plug somebody in the back execution style, and then go on to cap his ass a few more times when he's down - at a public gas station - that is presumably under goddamn survelience- then what, exactly is there left to "concoct"

Oh I get it, you're trying to flex you critical thinking skills and making an asumption that my response was predicated upon another assumption wherein I believe they already have the true perp...

However your failure is basic grammer in the assumption the pronoun of "he" specifically refers to the one 'suspect' they now have in custody who under due process is innocent until proven guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in a case such as this.

"He" could be anyone and in my context "He" refers to the sick motherfucker that executed the cop in cold blood. So do us both a favor and stop with the trite mental masturbation mkay?...
 

LegendKiller

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8 people saw what they wanted to see and refused to see what they didnt.

Saying that violence creates violence is more then a inspirational poster, Its a warning about the downward spiral of violence and how if we loved more we would have less of it. I dont understand why or how any of you took that response of mine to mean that I supported the killing of a cop.

The post was intended to elevate the conversation beyond a simple "one man committed a horrible act on another man" because thats where this conversation needs to go. But by all means continue on in ignorance. You certainly wont be the first or the last.


Yes, people see what they want to see, from a point of ignorance. Look at the Black Lives Matter protest in St. Paul today. "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" was everywhere. Why? Because they want to still think that Michael Brown did that, even though we *KNOW* he didn't. They want to believe Trayvon was a victim, despite all evidence he wasn't.
 

JSt0rm

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Just what in the fuck is that supposed to mean anyway? If you walk up and plug somebody in the back execution style, and then go on to cap his ass a few more times when he's down - at a public gas station - that is presumably under goddamn survelience- then what, exactly is there left to "concoct"

Oh I get it, you're trying to flex you critical thinking skills and making an asumption that my response was predicated upon another assumption wherein I believe they already have the true perp...

However your failure is basic grammer in the assumption the pronoun of "he" specifically refers to the one 'suspect' they now have in custody who under due process is innocent until proven guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in a case such as this.

"He" could be anyone and in my context "He" refers to the sick motherfucker that executed the cop in cold blood. So do us both a favor and stop with the trite mental masturbation mkay?...


Texas has killed at least 2 innocent people is all he is saying. 1 time it was in the rush to find the perp/ the other was because of horribly flawed arson work.

I guess the point is I wouldn't trust texas to do anything except refine oil and ranch cattle.
 

JSt0rm

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Yes, people see what they want to see, from a point of ignorance. Look at the Black Lives Matter protest in St. Paul today. "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" was everywhere. Why? Because they want to still think that Michael Brown did that, even though we *KNOW* he didn't. They want to believe Trayvon was a victim, despite all evidence he wasn't.


so what? You still believe we should export every illegal and build a giant wall even after being told of all the problems with that and that there is a cheaper solution? Why are your beliefs better then theirs?
 

LegendKiller

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so what? You still believe we should export every illegal and build a giant wall even after being told of all the problems with that and that there is a cheaper solution? Why are your beliefs better then theirs?
I agrees that there are better ways, but I disagree that that is the only way we should do it.
 

JSt0rm

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ok and these people have some little slogan to rally behind for their cause. So what? Is it really so important what they chant or why they are chanting it? Do you want to discount the plight of these people because you dont agree with a 4 word chant?

Maybe we should all sit down and have a conversation. Maybe we should try and find out what they perceive as wrong. Because perception is reality.

OR we can discount them and call them racist and think that only criminals are killed by police (with a 99,99% accuracy).
 

CPA

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Listening to the Harris County Sheriff's press conference. Stated the officer had never been in contact to the perpetrator. No motive at this time, but believes the uniform may have been a target of the shooter.
 

allisolm

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Shannon J. Miles is the arrested man. No reason so far except other than the man was a law enforcement officer.
 

LegendKiller

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ok and these people have some little slogan to rally behind for their cause. So what? Is it really so important what they chant or why they are chanting it? Do you want to discount the plight of these people because you dont agree with a 4 word chant?

Maybe we should all sit down and have a conversation. Maybe we should try and find out what they perceive as wrong. Because perception is reality.

OR we can discount them and call them racist and think that only criminals are killed by police (with a 99,99% accuracy).
You want people to listen? Say something worth listening to.
 

JSt0rm

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They say plenty of stuff. But a chant needs to be short and able to be picked up by a large group of people. Only Christians can chant their dogma at people.
 

LegendKiller

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They say plenty of stuff. But a chant needs to be short and able to be picked up by a large group of people. Only Christians can chant their dogma at people.
You will get nowhere if you say stupid shit. King got somewhere because he said stuff that made sense and resonated with a country. Glorifying morons will not get anybody but emasculated white guilt pussies on your side.
 

runzwithsizorz

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Looks personal. The guy shot him in the head, then shot him 3 times while he was already dead on the ground. My guess is he knows the guy.


That said, I think the police have some soul-searching to do about all the various people they shoot and how that might end up getting them shot just like this.


Agreed, this cop did something to this guy, wonder if we will ever be told what it was? Note that he really did not try to run, or hide, it's as if this cop ruined this guys life, or removed all hope of a future. In his mind, it was an eye, for an eye. When the fines for minor infractions can now exceed $30.000 and make you a criminal for life. When a parking ticket can exceed $1000, is it any wonder why some people might be a little miffed? In the past few years, acid forfeiture has gone up nearly 4000%. Imagine losing your car, home, job, family, future, and any hope of getting a decent paying job no matter what your skill set or education. All because you had a roach in your cars ashtray, went more than 10mph over the speed limit, didn't use a turn signal, got stuck in the mud on the side of the road, agree to a date with a pretty woman while you're at a convention, etc, etc, etc. Think it can't, won't, or doesn't happen? Think again! it already has. Though I don't agree, or condone this form of retribution, I can certainly understand it. Sadly, incidents like this are bound to increase, maybe that's why the cops are gearing up. Oh and Habeus Corpus, and Posse Comitatus? forget about it! Think it can't, doesn't. or won't happen? Think again! for it already has. The cops are just the messengers, but it seems this new breed of inked, pierced, skinhead, mohawk wearing, ex- school yard bullies with a low IQ cops who are all too willing to enforce the dictates of their masters, are now the primary hires, and the primary dictate is revenue. Gone are the days when we had cop that was a local resident who perhaps went to your high school, or goes to your church, was a veteran with maybe a few gray hairs. The only tattoos he might have had were branch, unit, ship, girl, mom, etc, and they were rather small, (no full sleeves). Who said his best day on the job was not having to write one single ticket! If you want to be an iconoclast, perhaps law enforcement isn't for you. In the next few years, things are going to get ugly, I have seen the writing on the wall, and it is inevitable.
So good night my fellow Americans, and rest easy in the knowledge that in spite of violating at least a dozen of the sixty plus thousand laws on the books that you do daily, the authorities will probably ignore you.
Good night, and rest easy for in spite of being labeled one of *those guys* the authorities will probably not monitor, or audit you.
Good night and rest easy for of the thousands of unlawful, unconstitutional, and warrantless search's of body, vehicles, and homes today, you probably won't be among them.
Good night and rest easy for as a white person you don't have to worry about whether or not you should make eye contact with a cop. According to todays report, and from a cop, both are wrong.
This train wreck is going to happen people, and there is nothing that you, or I can do to prevent it.
Oh, and good night Mrs. Calabash wherever you are.
 
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Nebor

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Sickening replies in this thread. This man was shot for wearing a uniform and carrying a badge, appointed by an elected official to enforce laws and protect people. 90% of cops would give their lives in place on an innocent, and some of you cheer their murder. When assaults on the symbols of law & order become acceptable, anarchy isn't far behind.
 

JSt0rm

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1. Nobody is cheering

2. 90% of cops would not give their life in place of an innocent. There are piles of examples of this.
 

LegendKiller

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1. Nobody is cheering

2. 90% of cops would not give their life in place of an innocent. There are piles of examples of this.
How many cops didn't go into the towers on 9/11?

Answer, none if thry wwre there amd not busy with other tasks. I personally know of 2 Port Authority detectives that went in and didn't come out.

Fuck you.