Texas says no thank you to federal education funding

spidey07

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Pretty smart move. The state wants to maintain it's ability to teach what is best so it's tells the Federal government to get lost. They seem to be doing this more and more, good for them.

http://www.kansascity.com/440/story/1681623.html

Gov. Rick Perry says Texas won't compete for up to $700 million in federal stimulus money for education because the state must reserve the right to decide how to educate children.

Perry's decision announced Wednesday involved the U.S. Department of Education's "Race to the Top" program. The $5 billion fund will award grants to states to improve education quality and results.

The program was created in the economic stimulus law and is part of Democratic President Barack Obama's effort to overhaul the nation's schools.

Perry has consistently criticized Washington over federal spending. The Republican governor turned down $555 million in stimulus money that would gone toward unemployment insurance, saying there were too many strings attached.
 

Craig234

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Was this turning down funding to preserve independance, or not competing for funding to avoid losing?

Texas seems happy to depsrive its citizens for misguided reasons.

As much as I hate to say it, because Texas deserves the problems they cause, I do think the federal government is on very iffy constitutional ground with the taxation and conditional grants.

As I've long said:

Federal bureacrat: "man, I'd sure like to force states to... (fill in the blank with a desired requirement they lack the authority to legislate,l say, drinking age of 21)

Federal lawyer: "You can't legislate that, it's a state right"

Federal Bureacrat: "We can't legislate, but we can tax the state a billion dollars, and offer to give it back with a condition that they make the drinking age 21 - it's economically very compelling".

Federal lawyer: "Looks like you found a loophole!"

It sure seems to violate the spirit of the constitution's states' rights. Whatever I think of the right or wrong of the cause.
 

JS80

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Was this turning down funding to preserve independance, or not competing for funding to avoid losing?

Texas seems happy to depsrive its citizens for misguided reasons.

As much as I hate to say it, because Texas deserves the problems they cause, I do think the federal government is on very iffy constitutional ground with the taxation and conditional grants.

As I've long said:

Federal bureacrat: "man, I'd sure like to force states to... (fill in the blank with a desired requirement they lack the authority to legislate,l say, drinking age of 21)

Federal lawyer: "You can't legislate that, it's a state right"

Federal Bureacrat: "We can't legislate, but we can tax the state a billion dollars, and offer to give it back with a condition that they make the drinking age 21 - it's economically very compelling".

Federal lawyer: "Looks like you found a loophole!"

It sure seems to violate the spirit of the constitution's states' rights. Whatever I think of the right or wrong of the cause.

Someone alert the mods, Craig's account's been hijacked.
 

Craig234

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Someone alert the mods, Craig's account's been hijacked.

Omigosh, the right's straw man version of liberalism has been contradicted. What's next, Craig ISN'T for the annual Congressional "burn tax dollars" bonfire? But but liberals have to be for unlimited federal power!
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Our governor is trying very hard to get the fed money so he can hijack it for other purposes. No, that's not a joke.
 

piasabird

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There may be matching funds you have pay for the federal education funding. What I can remember is for Pell there is a school's portion and a Federal Portion. Then also the way our Comm College works is we get funding from both the state and feds and they pick up 2/3'rds of the bill, so without that funding the bill is 3 times the normal amount.
 

woolfe9999

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Your post might be a little more useful by saying which governor, for which purposes, with any evidence.

He's said in other threads that he is in NY, and has many times complained about the statewide politics there.

- wolf
 

Arkaign

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I wish they would secede so I can move there.

Before you say anything, listen to a Texas conservative :

Perry is a lying sack of self-worshipping shit. He is as corrupt and arrogant as anyone I've ever seen, and God help me, I think Bush was a MUCH better governor.

I really hope Kay Bailey Hutchison kicks his ass, though it looks like that's unlikely. Ever since the days of 'Lyin Lyndon', we've had some real douchenozzles for Texas Governor, but Dick Perry takes the cake.
 

fskimospy

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I wish they would secede so I can move there.

You've really got a boner for this Texas secession thing lately. I suggest you move there immediately and attempt to put this master plan into action.
 

JSt0rm

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You've really got a boner for this Texas secession thing lately. I suggest you move there immediately and attempt to put this master plan into action.

I say let texas leave with their share of the national debt. see yah. Ohh also reroute our oil piping infrastructure away from them.
 

spidey07

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I say let texas leave with their share of the national debt. see yah. Ohh also reroute our oil piping infrastructure away from them.

When TX starts drilling more oil because their hands are no longer tied LA/MS will soon join them.
 

CPA

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Was this turning down funding to preserve independance, or not competing for funding to avoid losing?

losing what? is this supposed to be some sort of game?


Texas seems happy to depsrive its citizens for misguided reasons.

Perry hasn't been the greatest Governor (Trans-Texas Highway, a good example of his bad policy), but I am glad he is not playing with snakes. We all know that if the Feds are giving you money, you need to play by their rules.

As much as I hate to say it, because Texas deserves the problems they cause, I do think the federal government is on very iffy constitutional ground with the taxation and conditional grants.

Then why are you complaining about Perry's decision?

see above.
 

JS80

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You've really got a boner for this Texas secession thing lately. I suggest you move there immediately and attempt to put this master plan into action.

Yellow colored orientals don't fit too good in them state.
 

fskimospy

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I say let texas leave with their share of the national debt. see yah. Ohh also reroute our oil piping infrastructure away from them.

Not only that but pretty much no Republican would ever win the White House ever again without a large move by their party to the left.

Texas could sit down below us happily shooting Mexicans, teaching kids that evolution doesn't exist, etc... etc. Yee-haw!
 

Craig234

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see above.

Can't quote your post.

1. I'm referring to his losing the competition for education funds, if that wold be emnbarrassing.

2. The reason I object is because of the federal government's exerting ths power and blackmailing states, nt whether someone refuses to give in to the economic blackmail.

It's like I criticize someone for kidnapping, and when they don't pay and the victim is killed you ask why I was criticizing the kidnapping when the ransom wasn't paid.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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The best part of refusing federal funding is not having to follow the "no child left behind" guidelines.
 

rudder

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Texas seems happy to depsrive its citizens for misguided reasons.

Tennessee is on the way to lose a lot of good teachers because our Governer is jumping through the feds hoops to stay in the running for $500 million.

Some of the radicals changes include basing a teachers tenure on results from standardized testing as well as removing the power to fire a teacher from the local school districts.

Bad moves on both counts.

Maybe next they will make classes on fisting mandatory for any male over 13 to make the education czar happy.