Texas Passes Merry Christmas Bill To Fight War On Christmas

Apr 27, 2012
10,086
58
86
Texas has passed a bill to allow teachers to say Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah along with displaying Christmas trees, nativity scenes and menorahs.

"Teachers have enough on their plate to worry about [whether] the school district's going to be sued or if they can call a Christmas tree a Christmas tree," said state Rep. Dwayne Bohac (R), who sponsored the legislation.


He told KTBC in Austin that he came up with the idea when his six-year-old son told him about how he had "decorated the holiday tree with holiday ornaments."


This is good news since school districts actually could be sued for calling a Christmas tree a Christmas tree. And this deals a blow to the secular progressives and others waging a War On Christmas.

Do you think Texas made the right decision by allowing teachers to say Merry Christmas?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/21/texas-merry-christmas-bill_n_3312786.html
 

sunzt

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2003
3,076
3
81
good thing they're dealing with the top issues facing the state.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
197
106
good thing they're dealing with the top issues facing the state.

Saving the state money should be a top issue.

I would rather my tax dollars go the school then go to lawyers.
 
Last edited:

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,063
48,073
136
Saving the state money should be a top issue.

You realize that this will do exactly zero to stop lawsuits against the state, right? Not only is this a ridiculous issue that is not worthy of spending any time on, but the prohibition of government endorsement of religion is federal, not state.

What this really is for is to indulge the persecution myth of a small percentage of stupid people.
 

BlueWolf47

Senior member
Apr 22, 2005
653
0
76
Saving the state money should be a top issue.

when the school district has to defend against a law suit, that leaves more money for the students.

So they pick one holiday out of the christian calendar to protect? Can't wait for this to be on the daily show.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
197
106
So they pick one holiday out of the christian calendar to protect? Can't wait for this to be on the daily show.

Its actually a pagan holiday.


You realize that this will do exactly zero to stop lawsuits against the state, right? Not only is this a ridiculous issue that is not worthy of spending any time on, but the prohibition of government endorsement of religion is federal, not state.

What this really is for is to indulge the persecution myth of a small percentage of stupid people.

Wave your blue flag somewhere else, Texas is a red state.

It does not matter what federal law says, it is what the judge and jury says.
 

sunzt

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2003
3,076
3
81
This. School districts could be sued and this helps to save money.

I'm sure this was their primary concern when concocting this bill. How many lawsuits would have been prevented in the past if this would been in place? How much money have they paid for such suits? Were there evidence that there was significant payment made due to such suits?

In short... are there facts to show prior loss from TX cases to support the financial case? I doubt a jury of Texans would ever grant such damage.
 

Broheim

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2011
4,592
2
81
Stop stealing my People's fucking traditions and making up some bullshit about that dirty hippy, Jesus.
 
Apr 27, 2012
10,086
58
86
You realize that this will do exactly zero to stop lawsuits against the state, right? Not only is this a ridiculous issue that is not worthy of spending any time on, but the prohibition of government endorsement of religion is federal, not state.

What this really is for is to indulge the persecution myth of a small percentage of stupid people.

You're dismissing the threat to Christianity. So you don't like Christians?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,063
48,073
136
Wave your blue flag somewhere else, Texas is a red state.

It does not matter what federal law says, it is what the judge and jury says.

Nobody cares if Texas is a red or blue state, it's part of the United States and is subject to the Constitution.

Nothing in this act will prevent Texas schools from being sued and this law will offer no protection from loss.
 

Orignal Earl

Diamond Member
Oct 27, 2005
8,059
55
86
Out of all the states, Texas probably practices Sharia law the most too
Can't make business/oil contracts with the ME without it
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
197
106
Nobody cares if Texas is a red or blue state, it's part of the United States and is subject to the Constitution.

The people who serve on the jury matter.

The people of the jury can disregard the law and vote their conscious. Its called jury nullification.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,063
48,073
136
The people who serve on the jury matter.

The people of the jury can disregard the law and vote their conscious. Its called jury nullification.

If your plan was to rely on jury nullification then this law was meaningless to begin with. You really haven't thought this through, have you?

Needless to say, your plan is a poor one as clearly there are enough losing cases about this sort of thing that stupid people in Texas thought it was necessary to write a law about saying Merry Christmas.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
25,383
1,013
126
This. School districts could be sued and this helps to save money.

While I'm neither from Texas nor a lawyer, I'm going to guess that schools are using generic terms like "Seasons Greetings" and "Holiday Tree" for reasons of inclusiveness, not fear of a lawsuit.

And if your true intent is to free teachers and schools about backlash from parents and communities (or even lawsuits), then pass a law that allows mention and/or celebrating the full range of holidays, not just Judeo-Christian ones. A teacher should be able to wish her students a Happy Diwali, Wikkan Feast of Mabon, Buddha's Nirvana Day, or anything else that might be relevant to them. But that might expose our little precious ones to some belief system other than Christianity, and we can't have that now, can we?
 

sunzt

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2003
3,076
3
81
..... But that might expose our little precious ones to some belief system other than Christianity, and we can't have that now, can we?

shhhhhhh!! they can't know the true intentions.
 

nehalem256

Lifer
Apr 13, 2012
15,669
8
0
Nobody cares if Texas is a red or blue state, it's part of the United States and is subject to the Constitution.

Nothing in this act will prevent Texas schools from being sued and this law will offer no protection from loss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_holidays_in_the_United_States

If government recognition of Christmas is a violation of the Constitution it looks like we might have a problem...

If you truly support separation of church and state why are you not calling to eliminate Christmas as a federal holiday?
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,328
126
Aren't the lawsuits based on Federal law and the constitution? If so how does a state law help?