texas may move primary to feb 5

ElFenix

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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4554729.html

also, state legislators say that new hampshire, iowa, and south carolina are not representative of the country as a whole.


of course, new hampshire's law says it's primary is to occur several weeks before any other similar election in the country, so it'll be first, regardless of what the DNC wants.

we're going to need national regulation of when these things happen soon. maybe a random ping pong ball drawing for the first 5 states, primaries to take place the first week of april, then a slate of 10 2 weeks later, then 15 another two weeks later, etc. and if your state was in the first group the previous election cycle or two it can't be in the first group this cycle. and the longer your state has been since being in the first cycle the more balls it gets.
 

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Isn't California looking into moving theirs?


Why should the Federal government be able to step in? This is an internal process of the parties involved. Its their own fault if the fringe elements control too much of the primary process.


Honestly they should hold primaries like 3 times. First to weed out all the frill, the second to get a top 3, and the last to get a nominee. Of course 3 of them would costs states more money. Hell one US wide primary would be better than what they got now. The current system seems designed to gain press time.
 

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I agree with you Shivetya. The current way of doing it is stupid. What's more, the primaries should be hosted by Ryan Seacrest and voted on via the internet. There should be some singing involved somehow.
 

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Holding very early primary elections is always a danger to getting quality candidates for any party. And I think 2007 will proves especially dangerous. Right now, the reality of a democratic congress and a lame duck President of the opposite party will have some late firework implications. The game will indeed be afoot during the primary seasons---with all candidates forced to take various stands and join in various camps. It would indeed be a shame to have one or both 08 candidates being people who simply bet on the wrong horse as events later prove.
 

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Isn't California looking into moving theirs?


Why should the Federal government be able to step in? This is an internal process of the parties involved. Its their own fault if the fringe elements control too much of the primary process.


Honestly they should hold primaries like 3 times. First to weed out all the frill, the second to get a top 3, and the last to get a nominee. Of course 3 of them would costs states more money. Hell one US wide primary would be better than what they got now. The current system seems designed to gain press time.

I like that idea, why should what the folks in NH or Iowa think make a bit of difference to the rest of us? Spreading out the primaries just gives the canidates a chance to make different promises to different folks in different parts of the country.
 

techs

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Keeping Texas as far away from having any influence over Presidential politics would be good thing. After all they gave us Johnson and the two Bushes.
 

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
The primaries should be hosted by Ryan Seacrest and voted on via the internet.

There should be some singing involved somehow.

:cool:

complete with Hotties like Carrie Underwood for Dems while Repubs can have Aikens. :laugh:
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: techs
Keeping Texas as far away from having any influence over Presidential politics would be good thing. After all they gave us Johnson and the two Bushes.

neither of the bushes are from texas, troll. the first was from massachusetts and the second from connecticut
 

techs

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: techs
Keeping Texas as far away from having any influence over Presidential politics would be good thing. After all they gave us Johnson and the two Bushes.

neither of the bushes are from texas, troll. the first was from massachusetts and the second from connecticut
Uh, this Bush was Governor of Texas and the other Bushie had his business there.

 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4554729.html

also, state legislators say that new hampshire, iowa, and south carolina are not representative of the country as a whole.


of course, new hampshire's law says it's primary is to occur several weeks before any other similar election in the country, so it'll be first, regardless of what the DNC wants.

we're going to need national regulation of when these things happen soon. maybe a random ping pong ball drawing for the first 5 states, primaries to take place the first week of april, then a slate of 10 2 weeks later, then 15 another two weeks later, etc. and if your state was in the first group the previous election cycle or two it can't be in the first group this cycle. and the longer your state has been since being in the first cycle the more balls it gets.

Election code is soley up to the states. The fed could try to make a law but the Supreme Court would smack it down after every state protests.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: ElFenix
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4554729.html

also, state legislators say that new hampshire, iowa, and south carolina are not representative of the country as a whole.


of course, new hampshire's law says it's primary is to occur several weeks before any other similar election in the country, so it'll be first, regardless of what the DNC wants.

we're going to need national regulation of when these things happen soon. maybe a random ping pong ball drawing for the first 5 states, primaries to take place the first week of april, then a slate of 10 2 weeks later, then 15 another two weeks later, etc. and if your state was in the first group the previous election cycle or two it can't be in the first group this cycle. and the longer your state has been since being in the first cycle the more balls it gets.

Election code is soley up to the states. The fed could try to make a law but the Supreme Court would smack it down after every state protests.
what, article 5 doesn't exist?



 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: ElFenix
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4554729.html

also, state legislators say that new hampshire, iowa, and south carolina are not representative of the country as a whole.


of course, new hampshire's law says it's primary is to occur several weeks before any other similar election in the country, so it'll be first, regardless of what the DNC wants.

we're going to need national regulation of when these things happen soon. maybe a random ping pong ball drawing for the first 5 states, primaries to take place the first week of april, then a slate of 10 2 weeks later, then 15 another two weeks later, etc. and if your state was in the first group the previous election cycle or two it can't be in the first group this cycle. and the longer your state has been since being in the first cycle the more balls it gets.

Election code is soley up to the states. The fed could try to make a law but the Supreme Court would smack it down after every state protests.
what, article 5 doesn't exist?

Yeah, like the states are going to give up their right to determine their own election code.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: techs
Keeping Texas as far away from having any influence over Presidential politics would be good thing. After all they gave us Johnson and the two Bushes.

neither of the bushes are from texas, troll. the first was from massachusetts and the second from connecticut
Uh, this Bush was Governor of Texas and the other Bushie had his business there.
They're so pathetic now they won;t even acknowledge Bush in Crawford anymore.

Only one shop owner said he'll continue to support and sell memorabilia of his hero.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Yeah, like the states are going to give up their right to determine their own election code.

be that as it may, it wouldn't be the supreme court keeping it from happening. and there is still a need, in my opinion.
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
The primaries should be hosted by Ryan Seacrest and voted on via the internet.

There should be some singing involved somehow.

:cool:

complete with Hotties like Carrie Underwood for Dems while Repubs can have Aikens. :laugh:

I was thinking of having Arnold sing "Physical" meanwhile having GWB sing "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"