Texas looking to reinstate funding for planned parenthood

[Screech]

From reddit and http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/01/us/texas-may-restore-some-family-planning-budget-cuts.html

Now, amid estimates that the cuts could lead to 24,000 additional 2014-15 births at a cost to taxpayers of $273 million, lawmakers are seeking a way to restore financing without ruffling feathers.

As Rick Parry (with an A for america) would say:

Oops.

Not really sure what else to say here other than point out the incredible predictability of this.......

More proof that abstinence education is the only way to go!/s

 

[alzan]

Hopefully other states will follow suit.


Isn't ruffling feathers a time-honored and (mostly) socially acceptable pasttime in Texas?

 

[nehalem256]

Wouldn't it be cheaper for the taxpayer to stop funding births?

 

[Engineer]

Wouldn't it be cheaper for the taxpayer to stop funding births?

So if someone is pregnant and can't afford medical care, you're saying "tough luck"?

 

[Screech]

The cost isn't just a matter of birth. If you have lots of unwanted kids, generally you end up with higher crime and all the costs that come with it decades down the road. Hence why roe v wade is the most successful crimefighting measure in america.

 

[Sonikku]

95% of what planned parenthood does is abortions and they want to RESTORE funding to it? I'm all for getting babies off welfare but aborting them all isn't the way to do it.

 

[Jimmah]

95% of what planned parenthood does is abortions and they want to RESTORE funding to it? I'm all for getting babies off welfare but aborting them all isn't the way to do it.

You need to re-check those facts mate:

"Services provided at locations include contraceptives (birth control); emergency contraception; screening for breast, cervical and testicular cancers; pregnancy testing and pregnancy options counseling; testing and treatment for sexually transmitted diseases; comprehensive sexuality education, menopause treatments; vasectomies, tubal ligations, and abortion.

In 2009, Planned Parenthood provided 4,009,549 contraceptive services (35% of total), 3,955,926 sexually transmitted disease services (35% of total), 1,830,811 cancer related services (16% of total), 1,178,369 pregnancy/prenatal/midlife services (10% of total), 332,278 abortion services (3% of total), and 76,977 other services (1% of total), for a total of 11,383,900 services.[8][36][38][39][40][41] The organization also said its doctors and nurses annually conduct 1 million screenings for cervical cancer and 830,000 breast exams."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...l-says-abortion-services-are-well-over-90-pe/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood#Services_and_facilities



Perhaps this revelation by Texas will help deter any further de-funding of PP and other similar services.

 

[nehalem256]

So if someone is pregnant and can't afford medical care, you're saying "tough luck"?

Her body. Her choice. Her responsibility.

Or are you saying that women cannot be responsible for their bodies?

 

[thraashman]

95% of what planned parenthood does is abortions and they want to RESTORE funding to it? I'm all for getting babies off welfare but aborting them all isn't the way to do it.

Claimed 95% actual 3%. Conservative math everyone! Only wrong by 92% ... if you're a conservative only wrong by 11% (you know, because math works however it's politically convenient apparently)

 

[Engineer]

Her body. Her choice. Her responsibility.

Or are you saying that women cannot be responsible for their bodies?

Since you put it that way, what the hell. Just abort it. Much cheaper and more responsible to the "paying" society.

Problem solved.

 

[nehalem256]

Since you put it that way, what the hell. Just abort it. Much cheaper and more responsible to the "paying" society.

Problem solved.

:thumbsup:

 

[HOWITIS]

Little Known Fact, Medicare and Medicade and other health programs run out of money every single year. medical companies plan their earnings around when they expect the government to stop paying. this is nothing.

 

[Kadarin]

Her body. Her choice. Her responsibility.

Or are you saying that women cannot be responsible for their bodies?

They can be and they are, by aborting unwanted pregnancies.

Or perhaps to you it's not about the money, but rather about punishing the woman for what you see as "immoral sexual behavior"?

 

[nehalem256]

They can be and they are, by aborting unwanted pregnancies.

Or perhaps to you it's not about the money, but rather about punishing the woman for what you see as "immoral sexual behavior"?

Then I assume you agree there should be no need to fund planned parenthood or births.

 

[Texashiker]

So if someone is pregnant and can't afford medical care, you're saying "tough luck"?

Part of the problem is the out of control medical cost.

When my son was born in 1987, the delivery and a day in the hospital cost around $1,300. My wife and I pay cash as we did not have insurance at the time.

Why should we fund abortions when hospitals have made it cost prohibitive to deliver children?

What does it say about us as a society when we kill unborn children because they cost to much to deliver?

As for saying "tough luck", no, that is not the answer.

 

[Atreus21]

Now, amid estimates that the cuts could lead to 24,000 additional 2014-15 births at a cost to taxpayers of $273 million, lawmakers are seeking a way to restore financing without ruffling feathers.

And therefore, lawmakers are fucking stupid.

When you see additional human beings as nothing more than additional cost to taxpayers, you're fucking stupid.

 

[Nebor]

It was foolish to take away that funding in the first place. Abortion is good for society. In the long term it reduces poverty, starvation, crime and unrest because the least happy\productive members of society are never born.

 

[monovillage]

Claimed 95% actual 3%. Conservative math everyone! Only wrong by 92% ... if you're a conservative only wrong by 11% (you know, because math works however it's politically convenient apparently)

You missed the point, Sophita gets to lie and be a troll in this forum, it's the other forum that it gets you banned.

 

[soulcougher73]

Since you put it that way, what the hell. Just abort it. Much cheaper and more responsible to the "paying" society.

Problem solved.

This works for me as well. More abortions needed instead of saddling innocent people with more taxes to pay for all these unwanted babies. Our population is healthy enough to not need more people on someone else dime.

 

[soulcougher73]

Part of the problem is the out of control medical cost.

When my son was born in 1987, the delivery and a day in the hospital cost around $1,300. My wife and I pay cash as we did not have insurance at the time.

Why should we fund abortions when hospitals have made it cost prohibitive to deliver children?

What does it say about us as a society when we kill unborn children because they cost to much to deliver?

As for saying "tough luck", no, that is not the answer.

It's the after delivery cost that is the real answer youre looking for. Especially if these mothers are on welfare or other tax payer services.

 

[soulcougher73]

And therefore, lawmakers are fucking stupid.

When you see additional human beings as nothing more than additional cost to taxpayers, you're fucking stupid.

Your answer is right there bolded for you. Why should everyone else have to take care of irrisponsible people?

 

[Sonikku]

You need to re-check those facts mate:

"Services provided at locations include contraceptives (birth control); emergency contraception; screening for breast, cervical and testicular cancers; pregnancy testing and pregnancy options counseling; testing and treatment for sexually transmitted diseases; comprehensive sexuality education, menopause treatments; vasectomies, tubal ligations, and abortion.

In 2009, Planned Parenthood provided 4,009,549 contraceptive services (35% of total), 3,955,926 sexually transmitted disease services (35% of total), 1,830,811 cancer related services (16% of total), 1,178,369 pregnancy/prenatal/midlife services (10% of total), 332,278 abortion services (3% of total), and 76,977 other services (1% of total), for a total of 11,383,900 services.[8][36][38][39][40][41] The organization also said its doctors and nurses annually conduct 1 million screenings for cervical cancer and 830,000 breast exams."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...l-says-abortion-services-are-well-over-90-pe/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood#Services_and_facilities



Perhaps this revelation by Texas will help deter any further de-funding of PP and other similar services.

Post was not intended to be taken as a factual statement.

Just a ballpark figure.

 

[Phokus]

Can we just give Texas back to Mexico?

 

[SheHateMe]

I just want to know why Nehalem hates women so much. Does nobody else want to know?

 

[Oldgamer]

As far as I am concerned it isn't a human being until it viable outside the mothers uterus, until then its the mothers body and her decision.

Yes there are many proven statistics showing that crime rates went down significantly in a lot of areas of the country once abortion became legal.

If Texas wants to be stupid and take on the cost of all those births, and all those babies who will end up in foster care, then let them.

Otherwise it is a much smarter move to continue funding planned parenthood and other services who provide abortions.

Yes, it will keep the states overall cost down.

Quote: We offer evidence that legalized abortion has contributed significantly to recent crime reductions. Crime began to fall roughly eighteen years after abortion legalization. The five states that allowed abortion in 1970 experienced declines earlier than the rest of the nation, which legalized in 1973 with Roe v. Wade. States with high abortion rates in the 1970s and 1980s experienced greater crime reductions in the 1990s. In high abortion states, only arrests of those born after abortion legalization fall relative to low abortion states. Legalized abortion appears to account for as much as 50 percent of the recent drop in crime.

Links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Impact_of_Legalized_Abortion_on_Crime

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=1843646&page=1

By the way effective birth control products brought our country to an all time low on abortions. See link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-the-abortion-rate-just-hit-an-all-time-low/

But alas the fanatics out there are trying to do all they can to make birth control an issue and make it harder for poor women to gain access to it.