Texas judge’s refusal to marry gay couples goes before state supreme court

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nakedfrog

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I guess maybe this is the game plan to get it back to the SCOTUS and overturn the prior decision?
 
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WelshBloke said:
HOW IS THIS STILL AN ISSUE IN 2023!?!!
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Because we have a fair number of backwards busybodies who live here and hold power.
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On a separate issue I find it weird that you guys get married by judges!
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Depends on the state, but also this issue looks like it isn't because of her role as a judge, but as a Justice of the Peace. And her refusal to do stuff in her latter role calls into question whether she can be unbiased in her role as a judge:

Hensley serves as a justice of the peace in McLennan County, an elected official whose role includes hearing traffic and misdemeanor cases; presiding over landlord and tenant disputes; and, among other duties, can include conducting weddings.
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WelshBloke said:
HOW IS THIS STILL AN ISSUE IN 2023!?!!


On a separate issue I find it weird that you guys get married by judges!
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You can, but you can also get married by a religious leader, or your buddy who got ordained online (that's what I did). When my mom married my step-dad, they had a courtroom wedding first, and then the whole fancy ceremony later on.
 
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nakedfrog said:
You can, but you can also get married by a religious leader, or your buddy who got ordained online (that's what I did). When my mom married my step-dad, they had a courtroom wedding first, and then the whole fancy ceremony later on.
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I don't necessarily have an issue with a religious leader not doing a ceremony in a religious building if it goes against what they think their rules are, I do have an issue with a government employee, paid from tax revenues, refusing to marry someone who is legally entitled to marry and who is ultimately paying that government employees wages!

That's incumbent on civil weddings being as easy to access as religious ones and being of exactly the same status legally.
 
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WelshBloke said:
HOW IS THIS STILL AN ISSUE IN 2023!?!!


On a separate issue I find it weird that you guys get married by judges!
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Only some people do, most get married by a Pastor or Priest or even some Elvis impersonator who has a license to marry people.
I suspect a tiny portion of people are actually married by a Judge.
 
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nakedfrog said:
You can, but you can also get married by a religious leader, or your buddy who got ordained online (that's what I did). When my mom married my step-dad, they had a courtroom wedding first, and then the whole fancy ceremony later on.
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Fuck the Captain of a ship can marry you provided they’re a Notary which is pretty easy to do.
 
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This got me thinking so I looked it up. Only 15% of marriages in the UK were religious! The vast majority were done by civil officials.
And when I think of it very few weddings I've been to were in churches. And in those the officiant banged on more about his favourite sky fairy rather that the couple of the day.
 
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WelshBloke said:
HOW IS THIS STILL AN ISSUE IN 2023!?!!


On a separate issue I find it weird that you guys get married by judges!
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This is one of our congressman telling another congressman why he could not vote for him to be speaker of the house.

Rep. Rick Allen said that he told now-former House Speaker designee Tom Emmer that he opposed the Minnesota Republican's bid for the gavel because of Emmer voted to codify same-sex marriage.

“[Emmer] asked us to come down and ask to speak to why we could not support him” in his quest for the gavel, Allen said.

“And here’s what I said: I said ‘Jesus spelled out exactly what marriage looks like,'" the Georgia Republican said.
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As long as we have idiots basing our laws on the bible we are stuck in the year 125 A.D.
 
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WelshBloke said:
I don't necessarily have an issue with a religious leader not doing a ceremony in a religious building if it goes against what they think their rules are, I do have an issue with a government employee, paid from tax revenues, refusing to marry someone who is legally entitled to marry and who is ultimately paying that government employees wages!

That's incumbent on civil weddings being as easy to access as religious ones and being of exactly the same status legally.
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This is the issue - there is no controversy that religious organizations opposed to gay marriage would need to marry gay people. Thats never been a thing.

The issue is that religious people think they should have the right to not perform their duties as public officials because of their religious beliefs.

I would bet money that SCOTUS rules in favor of this because current jurisprudence is that Christians can opt out of any law they don’t like.
 
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Yeah, the Christian objection to gay marriage in the US has always been that it's a slippery slope that OBVIOUSLY and INEVITABLY leads to legalized polygamy and people marrying their pets. If that sounds stupid, that's because it is.

 
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nakedfrog said:
Yeah, the Christian objection to gay marriage in the US has always been that it's a slippery slope that OBVIOUSLY and INEVITABLY leads to legalized polygamy and people marrying their pets. If that sounds stupid, that's because it is.

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That's bullshit.

They hate LGBTQ+ persons, its not about a slippery slope, they just make absurd arguments like that because their brains are broken and they think making such false equivalency will work on people that don't hate LGBTQ+ people simply for existing.

They will also alternatively claim that gays will lead to extinction of us as a society, or pedophilia, or any number of other arguments in an attempt to get people to hate gays just like they do.

Not only that, but as their regular defense/perpetration of pedophilia (or whatever the "techinical" term for old dudes trying to fuck young teenaged girls is) and calls for genocide and death penalty for any and all crimes and other psychopathy shows, they don't actually care about the slippery slope, they really simply only want everyone to hate gays like they do and will resort to any and all specious arguments when trying to galvanize such sentiment.
 
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