Texas GOP’s secret anti-Hispanic plot: Smoking gun emails revealed

[Oldgamer]

Those people need to go home and fight to reform their own nation.

Rather than doing that, they would rather overwhelm the resources of another nation.

"Those people" as you put it, are children, whose parents sent them through several countries fleeing from certain death in their own country and are now looking for humanitarian assistance here in the US. Each child by law is entitled to a lawyer and due process of law to determine refugee status. We aren't talking about Mexico, we are talking about those countries that are not bordering our country.

I find your hypocrisy amazing. You carry on about not killing children, yet your quick to want to send these children back to certain death. What happened to your pro-life stance??

 

[Texashiker]

What happened to your pro-life stance??

I am pro-life, but I am also pro-responsibility.

The parents have a responsibility to provide for their children.

It is not my responsibility to take care of your children.

How about this, the US government finds the parents and sues the parents for child support. The parents then have to pay back every penny the government spends supporting their kids?

Sure, we will take care of your kids, but you have to pay child support. If you do not pay support we will send law enforcement to arrest you and throw you in prison.

 

[Oldgamer]

I am pro-life, but I am also pro-responsibility.

The parents have a responsibility to provide for their children.

It is not my responsibility to take care of your children.

How about this, the US government finds the parents and sues the parents for child support. The parents then have to pay back every penny the government spends supporting their kids?

Sure, we will take care of your kids, but you have to pay child support. If you do not pay support we will send law enforcement to arrest you and throw you in prison.

Your skirting my question. If your pro life, then you would be wanting to protect these childrens lives would you not? Because that would make you pro life. Other wise that makes you a hypocrite.

Or is this just more cognitive dissonance from you?

 

[Texashiker]

Your skirting my question. If your pro life, then you would be wanting to protect these childrens lives would you not? Because that would make you pro life. Other wise that makes you a hypocrite.

Or is this just more cognitive dissonance from you?

Take responsibility for your actions, parents sending their kids away is not taking responsibility.

I should not be burdened because someone else does not want to take responsibility.

 

[Oldgamer]

Take responsibility for your actions, parents sending their kids away is not taking responsibility.

I should not be burdened because someone else does not want to take responsibility.

Still not going to answer my question I see.. ok.. I got it. Oh one thing, why is a pre born baby your responsibility then, but not after its born?

Your logic is that it is your responsibility to see to it that unborn babies are not harmed and not killed, but once born, they are no longer your responsibility, why?

 

[nehalem256]

Still not going to answer my question I see.. ok.. I got it. Oh one thing, why is a pre born baby your responsibility then, but not after its born?

So based on your logic. If a parent decides to shoot their 5 year old that should be fine...

 

[Texashiker]

Still not going to answer my question I see.. ok.. I got it. Oh one thing, why is a pre born baby your responsibility then, but not after its born?

Pre-birth baby is not my responsibility.

It boils down to personal responsibility. Those parents brought a child into the world, now provide for it.

Whether it is working to reform the government, getting a job, social reforms,,, whatever, do something to take responsibility for your actions.

Key words, "your actions", not my actions.

 

[Oldgamer]

Pre-birth baby is not my responsibility.

It boils down to personal responsibility. Those parents brought a child into the world, now provide for it.

Whether it is working to reform the government, getting a job, social reforms,,, whatever, do something to take responsibility for your actions.

Key words, "your actions", not my actions.

You are making it your responsibility by advocating for laws to stop people from getting abortions. Your chanting to everyone about it being murder. That its killing children. You have taken up advocacy of this. But the moment we have children that are here now, in the world, after birth needing to be protected from death, suddenly you are not an advocate to protect these children. Suddenly its not your responsibility, suddenly you are not an advocate of "saving the children from murder". Do you not get your own hypocrisy?

 

[nehalem256]

You are making it your responsibility by advocating for laws to stop people from getting abortions. Your chanting to everyone about it being murder. That its killing children. You have taken up advocacy of this. But the moment we have children that are here now, in the world, after birth needing to be protected from death, suddenly you are not an advocate to protect these children. Suddenly its not your responsibility, suddenly you are not an advocate of "saving the children from murder". Do you not get your own hypocrisy?

Are 100,000 children being murdered in Central America every year?

 

[DominionSeraph]

I have a hard time understanding how gerrymandering is racism. I understand it lumps people together but doesn't saying this is racism is the same as saying these groups are different? I thought we are all the same and therefore there should not be racism.

Conservatards gonna 'tard.

The Republican party stands for government of white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males; by white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males, and for white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males. Conservative white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males believe that others have rights only so far as their feelings dictate. They are self-centered relativists, granting themselves everything and meting out boons to others only when it doesn't inconvenience them. Most do so thinking that their system of beliefs actually outputs something fair because they judge by their surface checks, being unaware that their underlying weighting system is heavily skewed in their favor.
The Democratic party believes in these things called, "Americans," and that they are equal under the law.

Being that the Republican party is racist, you'd expect that those without an interest in their racially preferential system to not have a reason to vote for them.

 

[Texashiker]

Being that the Republican party is racist, you'd expect that those without an interest in their racially preferential system to not have a reason to vote for them.

You have a serious misunderstanding of conservatives and republicans.

But go ahead and keep on believing those lies.

 

[Texashiker]

You are making it your responsibility by advocating for laws to stop people from getting abortions. Your chanting to everyone about it being murder. That its killing children. You have taken up advocacy of this. But the moment we have children that are here now, in the world, after birth needing to be protected from death, suddenly you are not an advocate to protect these children. Suddenly its not your responsibility, suddenly you are not an advocate of "saving the children from murder". Do you not get your own hypocrisy?

The laws of this nation are my business. I live here, I pay taxes, my home is here, my family is here.

The laws of some south american nation are not my business. If there is a problem in central or south america, they need to fix it.

It is like your neighbors fighting and running to your house. Do you take in every abused woman that knocks on your door?

 

[Phokus]

Conservatards gonna 'tard.

The Republican party stands for government of white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males; by white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males, and for white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males. Conservative white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males believe that others have rights only so far as their feelings dictate. They are self-centered relativists, granting themselves everything and meting out boons to others only when it doesn't inconvenience them. Most do so thinking that their system of beliefs actually outputs something fair because they judge by their surface checks, being unaware that their underlying weighting system is heavily skewed in their favor.
The Democratic party believes in these things called, "Americans," and that they are equal under the law.

Being that the Republican party is racist, you'd expect that those without an interest in their racially preferential system to not have a reason to vote for them.

You forgot: Rich

Being white/heterosexual/evangelical, etc. is useful for wedge policies, but when it comes down to it, the most important thing to the GOP is serving the wealthy. The GOP doesn't even really give a shit about the average white guy, economically speaking. The true base of the GOP's power is so small, i wonder if they don't even register more than a few percentage points of the voting population.

 

[Oldgamer]

The laws of this nation are my business. I live here, I pay taxes, my home is here, my family is here.

The laws of some south american nation are not my business. If there is a problem in central or south america, they need to fix it.

It is like your neighbors fighting and running to your house. Do you take in every abused woman that knocks on your door?

You really are just the epitome of hypocrite. I mean on the one hand you say I am pro-life and protect babies and children then you turn around and in the same breath say you don't give a shit about them when you know damn well they will be killed if we send them back to those countries.

Then you say the laws of this nation are your business, yet we have enacted refugee laws and international laws that state we cannot send these children back without due process. That unaccompanied children must have representation and given the process to show they are in need of refugee status or asylum, but then YOU turn around and want to illegally deport them against these same laws that you claim are your business! Amazing...

By the way expediting the deportation of these children without due process is in fact illegal and against our US laws and against international laws that we have established with these countries.

 

[zanejohnson]

i will dance in the streets the day texas turns blue


and i can even see through the two party illusion.... blue will mean, closer to pot legalization, and that's basically gonna keep the blue party getting my vote until it happens... unless the reds did something actually smart and got behind that... they could win anything that way.. but they are to dumb, far gone..

 

[glenn1]

when you know damn well they will be killed if we send them back to those countries.

Link to occurences of this? I was unaware of routine executions of repatriated immigrants, unless you're talking about somewhere like North Korea.

 

[loganone]

Democrats are getting 41-44%+ in Texas last two elections, the two before they were getting 38%. So we are moved from high 30s to low 40s in two cycles. The trend is our friend.

1992: Bush +3
1996: Dole +5
2008: McCain +11
2012: Romney +16

Interesting trend.

 

[senseamp]

1992: Bush +3
1996: Dole +5
2008: McCain +11
2012: Romney +16

Interesting trend.

You ignored:
-Ross Perot
-Years 2000, 2004

 

[nehalem256]

Conservatards gonna 'tard.

The Republican party stands for government of white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males; by white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males, and for white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males. Conservative white, heterosexual, evangelical Christian males believe that others have rights only so far as their feelings dictate. They are self-centered relativists, granting themselves everything and meting out boons to others only when it doesn't inconvenience them. Most do so thinking that their system of beliefs actually outputs something fair because they judge by their surface checks, being unaware that their underlying weighting system is heavily skewed in their favor.
The Democratic party believes in these things called, "Americans," and that they are equal under the law.

Being that the Republican party is racist, you'd expect that those without an interest in their racially preferential system to not have a reason to vote for them.

And some Americans are more equally than others. Namely, blacks, illegal immigrants, women, and homosexuals.

 

[nehalem256]

You ignored:
-Ross Perot
-Years 2000, 2004

1992 Clinton 37.08
1996 Clinton 43.33
2000 Gore 37.98
2004 Kerry 37.22
2008 Obama 43.68
2012 Obama 41.38

Happy now?

Clinton actually got more votes in 1996 than Obama in 2012 despite Ross Perot.

Of course it might also be worth pointing out that Bush was governor of Texas. I would think that would gain him a couple of points.

 

[fskimospy]

1992: Bush +3
1996: Dole +5
2008: McCain +11
2012: Romney +16

Interesting trend.

Let's do the actual trend:

1992: Bush +3
1996: Dole +5
2000: Bush +21
2004: Bush +23
2008: McCain +11
2012: Romney +16

 

[senseamp]

1992 Clinton 37.08
1996 Clinton 43.33
2000 Gore 37.98
2004 Kerry 37.22
2008 Obama 43.68
2012 Obama 41.38

Happy now?

Clinton actually got more votes in 1996 than Obama in 2012 despite Ross Perot.

Of course it might also be worth pointing out that Bush was governor of Texas. I would think that would gain him a couple of points.

Yes, I am very happy with this trend. Thanks for the update :thumbsup:

 

[Jhhnn]

I am pro-life, but I am also pro-responsibility.

The parents have a responsibility to provide for their children.

It is not my responsibility to take care of your children.

How about this, the US government finds the parents and sues the parents for child support. The parents then have to pay back every penny the government spends supporting their kids?

Sure, we will take care of your kids, but you have to pay child support. If you do not pay support we will send law enforcement to arrest you and throw you in prison.

I thought you described yourself as a Socialist a few threads over? Here-

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36528661&highlight=#post36528661

WTF do you think "Socialism" means, anyway?

"I got mine, so fuck you" isn't any kind of socialism I ever heard of...

 

[thraashman]

You are making it your responsibility by advocating for laws to stop people from getting abortions. Your chanting to everyone about it being murder. That its killing children. You have taken up advocacy of this. But the moment we have children that are here now, in the world, after birth needing to be protected from death, suddenly you are not an advocate to protect these children. Suddenly its not your responsibility, suddenly you are not an advocate of "saving the children from murder". Do you not get your own hypocrisy?

Because like pretty much every "pro life" person you'll ever meet, none of this is about preserving "life". It's about control. People like Texashiker and nehalem (I blocked him but I think it's a fair assumption he's saying something anti-women and probably anti hispanic) aren't really human beings in the sense that you or I are. They're mostly monstrous piece of refuse that have learned to type.

 

[dmcowen674]

Democrats are getting 41-44%+ in Texas last two elections, the two before they were getting 38%.

So we are moved from high 30s to low 40s in two cycles.

The trend is our friend.

Awesome